Members: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Elise Lindberge, Jonathan Robinson, Lise Fuhr, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Paul Kane, Wanawit Ahkuputra (7)
Participants: Chuck Gomes, Kavouss Arasteh, Martin Boyle Matthew Shears, Sabine Meyer, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy (6)
Legal Counsel: Josh Hofheimer
Staff: Nathalie Vergnolle, Trang Nguyen, Yuko Green
Apologies: David Conrad, Eduardo Diaz, Jaap Akkerhuis, Seun Ojedeji, Greg Shatan
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
- Status Update (Chairs)
- Implementation Update
- Staff update
- Key Issues (with Sidley)
- Naming functions agreement
- Services agreement
- IANA IPR
- Client Committee
1. Status update (Lise)
· 8 comments received on Naming function contract.
· ICANN board meeting today, will consider Naming function and Services agreements for approval.
· IANA IPR agreements public comment ended on 12 Sep.
2. Implementation update (Trang)
· ICANN finalizing the staff analysis on public comments received on the Naming functions agreement
· Revised version of Services agreement circulated to CWG prior to the call.
3. Key issues
3.1 Naming functions agreement
· Name of the agreement changed to contract
· Discussed comment from CENTR (3. Section 4.6) - the revised version proposed by CWG took care of this.
3.2 Services agreement
· Reviewed language of section 5.
· Schedule A bracketed text proposed by SIdley was agreed to by ICANN Legal.
· CWG asking for 24hrs to review the latest version.
ACTION (CWG): review latest version of Services agreement by 06:00UTC on Sep 16.
3.3 IANA IPR
· Role of the CCG reps - familiarity with IP rights seems preferable for co-chair. Time commitment should be light. Familiarity with the transition history/process would also seem appropriate.
· Term: unspecified at this time. Interim reps to be in place until the Naming community decides to replace them.
· Discussed potential conflict of interest.
· Discussed looking for candidates as CCG reps from the CWG, by putting out a call for interest.
ACTION (CWG co-chairs): issue a call for interest for CCG reps within CWG members, and CWG to discuss way forward during next CWG call.
· If no candidates can be identified, CWG co-chairs would be the interim CCGs.
· Reviewed appointment letter:
- Keep the letter brief (definitions of capitalized terms can be found in the community agreement, which is attached to the letter, no need to reiterate the definitions in the letter itself).
- CWG is not meant to remain active - a potential successor should be mentioned. Add: "CWG, or a successor organization acting for the benefit of the Naming community"
- Not necessary to specify the appointment duration.
ACTION (Sidley): revise the letter according to the comments received during the call.
Scheduling of next CWG call: next Thursday, 22 Sep @14:00 UTC
- ACTION (CWG): review latest version of Services agreement by 06:00UTC on Sep 16.
- ACTION (CWG co-chairs): issue a call for interest for CCG reps within CWG members, and CWG to discuss way forward during next CWG call.
- ACTION (Sidley): revise the letter according to the comments received during the call.
- Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p8xkbbd75re/
- MP3 recording is available here:
- CWG Update 15Sep16.pdf
- Redline - Services Agreement, Draft 9.14.16.pdf
- CCG Representative Appointment Letter (1) September 8 Draft (002).pdf
Lise Fuhr: (9/15/2016 00:50) Hi all connecting to the audio too
Yuko Green: (00:50) Hi all, welcome to the CWG IANA Meeting #92!
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (00:56) Hello
Yuko Green: (00:56) Hello Chuck!
Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): (00:59) hello everyone
Lise Fuhr: (00:59) Hello
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (00:59) Hi Everybody
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (00:59) Lise
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (00:59) GM
martin boyle, Nominet: (01:00) mornin' all
Paul Kane: (01:00) morning
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:00) May you kindly clarify what positionor positions you and Jonathan will have in the new arrangements
Yuko Green: (01:00) Hi all, we will get started shortly
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:04) evening
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:06) Lise ,at appropriate time ,May you kindly clarify what positionor positions you and Jonathan will have in the new arrangements
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:07) Yes that was my question
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:08) tks
Jonathan Robinson: (01:11) All. Please note that the revised version of SErvices Agreement" was sent to CWG15 mins prior to this call. To that extent it has been circulated.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (01:12) give it at least 24H please
Trang Nguyen: (01:16) @Lise: 24 hours for the Services Agreement should not be a problem.
Yuko Green: (01:16) The latest version of the redline services agreement is on the screen with scroll control for you
Jonathan Robinson: (01:16) @Paul. You were referring to comments on the Naming Functions agreement as I heard it. Therefore, that was a comment addressed to staff as they process the public comments.
Jonathan Robinson: (01:16) COrrect?
Paul Kane: (01:18) Yes Jonathan - exactly. It was for ICANN to adopt the need for language to be updated for community imput
Paul Kane: (01:18) on Technical updates to PTI
Lise Fuhr: (01:18) ok lets discuss after the service agreement
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:19) May I request that speakers kindly speak more slowly and separate sylabus one from another
Paul Kane: (01:19) More a comment to ICANN Staff. The comment submitted made a valid suggestion.
Trang Nguyen: (01:21) @Paul, could you please point me to the specific from CENTR that you are referring to?
Paul Kane: (01:22) 3. Section 4.6
Paul Kane: (01:22) Just a tightening of lasnguage - not a substantive change
Lise Fuhr: (01:23) Please mute when not speaking
Paul Kane: (01:24) Perfect ... that is the tightening that I was referencing
Paul Kane: (01:24) Thanks Trang - it is
Jonathan Robinson: (01:27) @ALL. Greg Shatan briefly supplemented my information about the CCG reps to the mail list.
Jonathan Robinson: (01:30) From Greg
Jonathan Robinson: (01:30) I just want to confirm that I understand that the "job" of the CCG representatives from the names community, and in particular that of the Co-Chair, is to serve the community, keep the community informed, seek the direction of the names community and act at the direction of the community. I expect that the most significant tasks before the CCG in the early days will be setting up any procedures the CCG will have, making sure the duties and obligations are well-understood, and making sure that the expected lines of communications are open. As such, an understanding of the genesis of the CCG and how the role of the CCG fits into IPR-related obligations and law will be helpful. Of course, this will all be done at the direction of the names community (initially, the CWG).
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:37) Seun raised some good questions on the terms.
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:38) @Jonathan, correct. WHen I referred to "CCG Co-chairs" and the relevance of IP exeperience, I was speakng of the three CCG Co-Chairs under the Community AGreement, i.e. one each from Names, Numbers and Protocols.
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:38) Its useful for those three co-chairs to have some IP background
Jonathan Robinson: (01:39) @Paul. Greg would become "Interim Co-chair" in the first instance.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (01:41) SO Sorry I am late I was delayed longer thhn expected when I returned my Samsung Note 7 to the telcostore for my replacement unit **Sigh**
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:42) The key at this point in time is to have some specific alternatives for Jonathan & Lise if we want to go that direction.
matthew shears: (01:44) I agree with your suggested limited term interim role
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:44) Should we ask for volunteers in the CWG?
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:45) Volunteers or nominees
Jonathan Robinson: (01:45) @Chuck. Agreed. Any proposals for nomination, selection much appreciates. I agree that the CWG may be the best pool to search in. Here you have qualifications in terms of the history of the CWG.
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:46) Shall we set a deadline for nominations or volunteers and, if we get none, go with the provisional approach.
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:47) The Community AGreement specifies that the CCG is formed at signing, and so the 3 reps from each community should be identified at signing. Their names do not need to be included in the Community Agreement itself, but the group of 9 is supposed to be formed at signing.
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:47) +1 Lise
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:47) If Greg is on the CCG, the other two mainly need to be good representatives of the Names Community.
matthew shears: (01:48) agree Chuck
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:53) What will be the deadline for volunteers/nominees?
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:53) Our next meeting?
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (01:53) @Chuck, we need 3 names by the 30th. THey can be changed but we need to have initial persons
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (01:54) Please kindly do not take the comments associated with any individual but just to have a propr process
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:54) We need a few days to confirm qualifications and get support from the CWG.
matthew shears: (01:55) so a one-year appointment?
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:56) To increase our chances, we might want to ask CWG members to reach out to their groups for volunteers/nominees.
matthew shears: (01:58) why not have placeholders until Hyderabad when community should have decided on the individuals
Paul Kane: (01:58) They should be placeholder candidates.
matthew shears: (01:58) that gives the community time - there is slot going on right now
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (01:59) Is it okay for us to reach out to our respective groups for volunteers/nominees?
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (02:00) We can have volunteers who have needed experience/skills.
Paul Kane: (02:01) Knowledge of CWG processes and willing to act as communication channel to naming community
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (02:01) Kavouss is correct that we ask for volunteers identify the qualifications.
matthew shears: (02:01) + 1 Paul
Paul Kane: (02:02) Yes - to Greg
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:03) LISE
matthew shears: (02:03) good plan Lise
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:03) This is a fair and acceptable conclusions
Jonathan Robinson: (02:04) @Lise. Appointment letter not approval letter
Jonathan Robinson: (02:04) Name is in square brackets. Traditional legal approach to something which is not yet agreed
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (02:05) I suggest that we spell out what CCG stands for because most people will not know what it stands for.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (02:05) good point Chuck
Paul Kane: (02:08) Thanks all - I am sorry but I must leave the call now. Have a good day/eve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (02:08) Bye Paul
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (02:12) We could say "(a) my receipt of written notice from the CWG, or any successor organization acting for the benefit of the Names Community, of my removal from the position...
matthew shears: (02:13) this should work: http://isoc-ny.org/misc/2016-09-14_senate_iana.mp4
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:15) Mathiew.tks
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:15) I can not open that hyperlink
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:15) Do you have other solution
Trang Nguyen: (02:15) Try this one: https://www.c-span.org/video/?415235-1/hearing-looks-changes-internet-governance-oversight&live
KAVOUSS Arasteh: (02:15) Tks lise
Jonathan Robinson: (02:15) The link just worked for m
Jonathan Robinson: (02:15) me
Chuck Gomes (RySG): (02:15) Thanks all. Good meeting.
matthew shears: (02:16) thanks all
Josh Hofheimer (Sidley): (02:16) good night
Trang Nguyen: (02:16) Thank you. Bye.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (02:16) BYE for now talk soon :-)
Lise Fuhr: (02:16) Bye all
Sivasubramanian M: (02:16) Bye
martin boyle, Nominet: (02:16) bye all
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (02:17) thanks all bye