Attendees:  

Members:   Athina Fragkouli, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Finn Petersen, Jordan Carter, Julie Hammer, Leon Sanchez, Mathieu Weill, Michael Abejuela, Robin Gross, Sebastien Bachollet, Steve DelBianco, Thomas Rickert, Tijani Ben Jemaa.  (13) 

Participants: Aarti Bhavana, Alain Bidron, Avri Doria, Chris LaHatte, Christopher Wilkinson, David McAuley, Erich Schweighofer, Farzaneh Badii, Greg Shatan, Harold Arcos, Isaac Maposa, Jorge Cancio, Julf Helsingius, Kavouss Arasteh, Klaus Stoll, Lousewies van der Laan, Markus Kummer, Matthew Shears, Megan Richards, Philip Corwin, Ricardo Holmquist, Sabine Meyer, Shreedeep Rayamajhi, Stephen Deerhake, Seun Ojedeji, Tatiana Tropina, Tom Dale.  (27)

Guests:  Aida Noblia, John Poole

Staff: Berry Cobb, Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Karen Mulberry, Laena Rahim, Yvette Guigneaux.  (6)

Apologies:  Lori Schulman, Paul McGrady, Chris Wilson

** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **

Transcript

Recording

Agenda

1. IANA Transition Update
2. Update Action Items from 20 September Plenary
3. Workplan and Timeline for Public Comments in 2017
4. Budget Update and GNSO Resolution
5. Subgroup Issues and Reports for Plenary
6. Hyderabad Face-to-Face meeting plans
7. Travel to Hyderabad
8. AOB

Next CCWG-Acct Plenary meeting will be on
19 October at 1300 UTC

Notes

Notes (includes relevant parts of chat):

Apologies:  Thomas Rickert, Lori Schulman, Paul McGrady

30 participants at onset

1. IANA Transition Update

  • Mathieu Weill: Transition has occurred and the new Byalws, including the accountability changes, are now in effect.
  • Kavouss Arasteh: Put in record significant thanks for Lise Fuhr and Jonathan Robinson for taking the CWG to the transition.
  • Avri Doria: Lets also remember Larry, and Fiona, and Ashley and the whole crowd at NTIA that were perseverant, patient and waited an extra year for us.  And let’s learn from that that often it takes twice as long as we expect it to.
  • Sebastien Bachollet: also thanks with Fadi Chehade.
  • Megan Richards: thanks Kavouss but the transition couldn't have gone through without the ccwg work as well. I would suggest a general thanks to all involved otherwise we will have to have many speeches and a very long list (not to diminish the important work of the CWG of course!)
  • Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): It's been a good set of work. But do we need to spend a lot of time congratulating each other? :-)
  • Mathieu Weill: Support MR recommendation.
  • Kavouss Arasteh: Yes, Larry's Team done fantastic job in particular. his speech and testimony before the congress while Fiona was sitting behind him with full team

2. Update Action Items from 20 September Plenary

  • Leon Sanchez: Groups have reported, now expecting that no groups will have draft reports before Copenhagen.
  • Karen Mulberry: Several groups are asking some support. Will look at budget vs the requests and advise.
  • Sebastien Bachollet - Ombudsman: We will ask for some budget commitment and will provide information in next 24 hours.
  • Leon Sanchez: any additional updates.

 

3. Workplan and Timeline for Public Comments in 2017

  • Mathieu Weill: Proposed dates for plenaries going forward.
  • Sebastien Bachollet: December meeting has a conflict - please ensure.
  • Mathieu Weill: review of work plan and timeline.

4. Budget Update and GNSO Resolution

  • Leon Sanchez: update by BT
  • Bernard Turcotte: update per slides.
  • Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland): could we have some explanation on the effect of the gnso opinion for the ccwg? Thanks - I suppose that for the ccwg there needs to be agreement if needed on any conditions attached

5. Subgroup Issues and Reports for Plenary

  • Sebastien Bachollet - Ombudsman: The group wanted to be certain of he role of the Ombudsman vs PTI and the fact that this role is not in the Bylaws.
  • Mathieu Weill: The CCWG agrees that the Ombudsman's office has PTI in its scope.
  • Sebastien Bachollet: Just a note that we are working with other sub-groups. Should any other sub-groups have dependencies please contact us.
  • Mathieu Weill: There may be some confusion between ATRT2 recommendations and the upcoming work of ATRT3. ATRT2 has now been cleared up with the Ombudsman group. SB will clarify this in an email to the list (ACTION ITEM). As to our request to the ICANN Board wrt WS2 vs ATRT3 we have not yet received a response and co-chairs will follow this up with the Board contacts (ACTION ITEM) (https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Documents?preview=/59641302/61605206/CCWG-LetterOnCollisionsOfWS2andATRT3-SDB-BTDraft%3DClean%5B2%5D.pdf )

6. Hyderabad Face-to-Face meeting plans

  • Leon Sanchez: Review of proposed schedule and request that all sub-groups can submit their topics for discussion by October 21st (ACTION ITEM).
  • jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): on the Hyderabad meeting plan: I would suggest that subgroups present their difficult issues to the CCWG, with options if possible, for the CCWG to discuss and decide
  • Julf Helsingius: I assume remote participation will be possible?
  • Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: Absolutely.
  • Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: I'll be participating remotely
  • Kavouss Arasteh: request to ask the sub-groups to raise any questions which require input/guidance from the CCWG.

7. Travel to Hyderabad

  • Mathieu Weill: Reminder of the travel details for Hyderabad including visas.

8. AOB

  • Mathieu Weill: AOB (none). Reminder that participants in sub-groups need to get going if we are going to have useful discussions in Hyderabad. We need the sub-groups to participate between their meetings.
  • Avri Doria: MW keep mentioning we need to accelerate the work - we had to get WS1 done because there was a timing constraint. But now our participants’ resources have been stretched - we have to get this done without it going on forever. We need to get this done right vs on time.
  • Julf Helsingius: I agree with Avri - better to get it right than to push something half-cooked through the process.
  • jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): Avri is right. Internal participation is going down. We would need to make sure that the larger community is kept informed and nudged to participate - through specific consultations, focused meetings etc. - we need to be imaginative
  • Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): I agree, but also think that we could take forever and work on this always - the challenge has to be to get the balance right - ccwg isn't meant to be eternal
  • Megan Richards: perhaps good for subgroups to identify short term, medium term and longer term actions, goals?
  • Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): I think that's already going on
  • Mathieu Weill: We have to find the right balance because the work of he CCWG cannot be eternal. Adjourned.

Action Items:

Next CCWG-Acct Plenary meeting will be on

19 October at 1300 UTC

Action Items

Documents

AC Chat

Yvette Guigneaux: Good day and welcome to CCWG ACCT WS2 Plenary Meeting #6 04 October 2016 @ 05:00 UTC!

Kavouss Arasteh: HI bRENDA

Kavouss Arasteh: hI yEVETTE

Brenda Brewer: Hello Kavouss!

Yvette Guigneaux: Hello Kavouss

Stephen Deerhake (.as): Greetings! I see that the intertubes are still working well after that big flash in the sky Friday night...

Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: Hello all, yes indeed Stephen. AC rooms are still working despite the transition to icann.org. Is that what you mean ?

avri doria: more worried about transition to particpate.

Julf Helsingius: good morning

Sabine Meyer: hello everyone

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: Hi all

Kavouss Arasteh: wHY WORRIED? WORRIED OF OR ABOUT WHAT?

Robin Gross: Good evening from San Francisco! :-)

Leon Sanchez (Co-Chair ALAC): Hello everyone!

Sabine Meyer: A significant drop in participation, I would assume

David McAulet (RySG): Hello all

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): morning!

Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: hello all

Ricardo Holmquist: good day

Karen Mulberry: Hello from Denver Colorado

Michael Abejuela (ARIN): Hello everyone

David McAuley (RySG): back in with correct name

Athina Fragkouli (ASO): Hello all

matthew shears: mornin

Chris LaHatte: hi, I must apologise as I have a clash with another matter

Harold Arcos: hello everyone,

Erich Schweighofer: Morning from Vienna.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: Well said Mthieu

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: a missing Sorry

avri doria: Lets also remember Lary, and Fiona, and Ashley and the whole crowd at NTIA that were perserverant, patient and waited an extra year for us. And lets learn from that that often it takes twice as long as we expect it to.

Leon Sanchez (Co-Chair ALAC): Indeed Avri

Kavouss Arasteh: aVRI

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: Yes Avri Well noted indeed

Kavouss Arasteh: cERTAINLY WE SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE OTHERTS IN ntia I SUPPORT AVRI'S SUGGESTIONS

Megan Richards: thanks Kavouss but the transition couldn't have gone through without the ccwg work as well. I would suggest a general thanks to all involved otherwise we will have to have many speeches and a very long list ( not to diminish the important work of the CWG of course!)

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): It's been a good set of work. But do we need to spend a lot of time congratulating each other? :-)

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): I endorse all the remarks, of course - it has been remarkable

Kavouss Arasteh: Yes,Larry's Team done fantastic job in particular. his speech and testimony before the congress whicle Fiona was sitting behind him with full team

Karen Mulberry: The report template was sent to the subgroup rapporteurs this morning

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: Yes received Karen

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): i will miss both those calls due to the events Sebastian has mentioned

David McAuley (RySG): yes Bernie

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): could we have some explanation on the effect of the gnso opinion for the ccwg?

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): Thanks - I suppose that for the ccwg there needs to be agreement if needed on any conditions attached

Ricardo Holmquist: sorry, what will be the date for this meeting

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): on the Hyderabad meeting plan: I would suggest that subgroups present their difficult issues to the CCWG, with options if possible, for the CCWG to discuss and decide

Julf Helsingius: I assume remote participation will be possible?

Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: Absolutely.

Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: I'll be participating remotely

Julf Helsingius: Great! Thanks!

matthew shears: this is on the 2nd?

Mathieu Weill, ccNSO, co-chair: Yes

Ricardo Holmquist: date please

Leon Sanchez (Co-Chair ALAC): Ricardo, the CCWG meeting will be on November 2

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: All good from me

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): No issues to raise monsieur co-chair

Ricardo Holmquist: ty Leon.

David McAuley (RySG): Thanks to WS2 sub-team rapporteurs, they are doing good work

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): looking forward to seeing many of you in hyderabad

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: I've lost my phone lines it seems Internet may follow yer High Winds here atm

Julf Helsingius: I agree with Avri - better to get it right than to push something half-cooked through the process.

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): Avri is right. Internal participation is going down. We would need to make sure that the larger community is kept informed and nudged to participate - through specific consultations, focused meetings etc. - we need to be imaginative

Jordan Carter (.nz, ccNSO): I agree, but also think that we could take forever and work on this always - the challenge has to be to get the balance right - ccwg isn't meant to be eternal

Megan Richards: perhaps good for subgroups to identify short term, medium term and longer term actions, goals?

Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): I think that's already going on

avri doria: i also disagree with this notion of there can be only one. but i won't push it today.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ALAC AP CCWG Member: Thanks eveyone Bye for noiw then

avri doria: bye, thanks

Julf Helsingius: Thank you all, bye!

David McAuley (RySG): Good bye, thanks

Athina Fragkouli (ASO): thank you all

Tatiana Tropina: Thanks all! Bye

Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: bye all

jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): ciao tsäme!

Robin Gross: Bye!

 

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