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Webinar 1

11 June 2015 06:00 UTC

Attendees:  Alejandro Pisanty, Allan Skuce, Annaliese Williams, Antonia Chu, Anupam Agrawal, Arsene Tungali, Bart Boswinkel, Boyoung Kim, Chris Disspain, Feng Guo, Ghislain Nkeramugaba, He Jia, Hyuno Kwon, Izumi Okutani, Janvier Ngnoulaye, Jian Chang, Joly MacFie, Jonathan Robinson, Jordan Carter, Julie Hammer, Julie Z, Kaydian Smith, Kelvin Wong, Klaus Stoll, Konstantinos Komaitis, L Gradden, Liana Teo, Lise Fuhr, Manal Ismail, Mathieu Weill, Matogoro Jabhera, Minjung Park, Naomi Tandy, Nigel Hickson, Nikki Hu, Nurani Nimpuno, Oanh, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Pam Little, Paul Szyndler, Peter Green, Peter Koch, Peter Van Roste, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana, Rachel, Ramanou Biaou, Sebastien Bachollet, Seun Ojediji, Shin Yamasaki, Stanley Shan, Susan Payne, Theo Geurts, Tom Dale, Wanawit Ahkuputra, Xiaodong Lee, Yama, Yaovi Atohoun, Yasuichi Kitamura, Yuri Takamatsu, Zheng Song

Adobe Connect Recording:  https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p5nvhx36j1i/

Adobe Chat:

Brenda Brewer: (6/11/2015 00:29) Good Day and Welcome to the CWG-Stewardship Webinar at 06:00 UTC on 11 June.

  Mike Brennan: (00:36) As a reminder - everyone please mute your phone line or microphone when you are not speaking. On the phone, please hit *6 to mute and *7 to unmute. If you are using your computer mic in the room, please hit  the microphone at the top of the room to mute and unmute. Thank you!

  Mike Brennan: (00:39) If you would like to speak using your computer microphone please hit the button at the top of the room to raise your hand and your microphone will be enabled.

  Yasuichi Kitamura (At-Large): (00:52) hi, all

  Jordan Carter (.nz): (00:53) Hi everyone

  Matogoro Jabhera: (00:58) Hi everyone

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (01:07) Global Internet Community, not Global Internet Society

  Stanley Shan: (01:10) hi everyone,stanley Shan from Beijing,China

  Arsene Tungali: (01:19) Hey, Just joined from the DRC

  Matogoro Jabhera: (01:20) Hello Tungali welcome, this is Matogoro from Tanzania

  seun: (01:21) good to see you both here @arsene and mategoro

  Joly MacFie: (01:21) Possibly should add after NTIA (US Congress (30 Days)]

  Matogoro Jabhera: (01:21) Good @Seun

  Stanley Shan: (01:22) bonjour,asenne tungali

  Arsene Tungali: (01:22) Thanks @Seun and @Matogoro. Bonjour @Stanley, ca va?

  Stanley Shan: (01:23) ca va~mercy

  kaydian: (01:29) morning Kaydian from Jamaica

  Sébastien: (01:41) What is a TLD rep not g and not cc?

  Stanley Shan: (01:44) hi,sebastien, i think it is new gTLD?

  Sébastien: (01:44) still a g?

  Grace Abuhamad: (01:45) @Sebastien -- it's actually meant as Other communities such as .ARPA (IETF), and legacy TLDs like .mil

  Joly MacFie: (01:45) .int, .eu,

  Sébastien: (01:45) OK one US voice more :(

  Sébastien: (01:45) .eu is a cc

  Joly MacFie: (01:45) ah

  Sébastien: (01:45) .int is run by ICANN

  Grace Abuhamad: (01:46) it's a liaison role, given as an option to allow for inclusivity of all TLDs

  Sébastien: (01:46) .mil, .edu and ..gov are g run by US

  Stanley Shan: (01:47) i agree with grace

  Pam Little: (01:47) The majority of the PTI board will be ICANN staff (3 out 5), what's the thinking behind that?

  Sébastien: (01:47) OK I understand better

  Joly MacFie: (01:48) Is there any definition on how long it will take the NTIA to report to Congress, and then as the vote today sated there is 30 days.. after which proposal can be accepted

  Joly MacFie: (01:48) ?

  HE JIA: (01:49) What are the main changes compared with the previous proposal?

  Julie Hammer: (01:49) Your written proposal mentions a standing committee to recommend on major architectural and operational changes but this is not represented on these current diagrams.

  Matogoro Jabhera: (01:49) In the statistics, can I know how many African countries have contibuted to the proposal?

  Pam Little: (01:50) Thank you.

  Paul Szyndler: (01:50) Thank you for the briefing Lise - to follow up on the previous question from Pam, is there 100% clarity on the remaining two members? (I read the proposal as "at least" three members")

  HE JIA: (01:51) I mean the proposal looking for comments in May

  Paul Szyndler: (01:51) To be clear - would there definitely be 5 and where would they "be from"?

  Alejandro Pisanty: (01:51) Have you looked at the impact of this reorganization on the AoC and Bylaws-mandated organizational reviews? (of course the AoC would vanish but the same reviews would need be re-created and made mandatory.) Or would this only be dealt with in the Accountability side?

  Alejandro Pisanty: (01:52) Second question: do you think you have created incentives against a split IANA, in favor, or neutral?

  Grace Abuhamad: (01:53) @Matogoro -- no countries submitted comments, but we had 6 submissions in Public Comment from African region. We also have 2 African region represenatives as members of the CWG (Seun for ALAC and Vika for ccNSO)

  Jonathan Robinson: (01:54) @Lise. I am not on audio

  Matogoro Jabhera: (01:54) Good @Grace

  Julie Hammer: (01:54) Please see my earlier question above which was inadvertantly missed.

  Stanley Shan: (01:54) the two independent directors of PTI board is from NomCom of PTI?

  Mathieu Weill, Accountability co-chair: (01:54) @Alejandro:: that is part of accountability CCWG but could you clarify which impact ?

  Jordan Carter (.nz): (01:55) Alejandro: the Acct proposal fully transitions the AOC review and, we think, improves them

  Alejandro Pisanty: (01:56) Mathieu, Jordan, then I'll wait to discuss there. THANKS, Lise, all.

  Alejandro Pisanty: (01:56) Split re one IANA for all three functions or it going into 3 IANAs, one each for numbers, names and protocols

  Jonathan Robinson: (01:57) @Paul. 3-5 board members. We have not forced a election mechanism but recommended a rigorous process such as NomCom for the 2 independent directors

  Jonathan Robinson: (01:58) election = selection

  Stanley Shan: (01:58) the two independent directors of PTI board is from NomCom of PTI?I mean PTI has a unique Nomcom?

  Jonathan Robinson: (01:58) ICANN NomCom

  Stanley Shan: (01:58) yes, thank you

  Nikki Hu (BII): (01:59) where will be registries of IANA entity ?

  Marika Konings: (01:59) You can now all scroll through the slides at your leisure

  Xiaodong Lee: (02:01) PTI board need to be composed of stakeholders to protect the interest of main stakeholders, not necessary too many from ICANN and PTI itself.

  Alejandro Pisanty: (02:01) Olivier is an old hand - we know...

  Julie Hammer: (02:01) Page 32 para 155

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (02:01) I was under the impression that all escalations started at CSC and that BOTH ccNSO & GNSO needed to agree to an IFR. Wow -- this is en entirely different game, if the GNSO or ccNSO can raise a specia IFR for any reason whatsoever

  Stanley Shan: (02:01) two indepdendent director from ICANNN Nomcom,that looks like PTI is not completely seperated from ICANN....

  Julie Hammer: (02:02) No, this is mentioned as a separate one on p35 para 155

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:02) @Julie -- it is not a formal entity as such, but proposed to be a kind of standing committee

  Feng: (02:02) i may overlook some points, where will PTI be located, preferably international jurisdiction

  Nikki Hu (BII): (02:03) yes,i agree with stanley

  Sébastien: (02:03) OPEN the audio in the Adobe to help the exchanges, please

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:03) We will open mics per hand raised

  Julie Z: (02:03) @Feng California I believe

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:04) If you would like to speak using your computer microphone please hit the button at the top of the room to raise your hand and your microphone will be enabled.

  Feng: (02:04) @Julie Z thanks

  Alejandro Pisanty: (02:07) Strategic question: what is the fallback plan if this huge structure is not accepted or turns out not to be implementable in a realistic time frame?

  Pam Little: (02:07) There are comments in the chat regarding PTI board.

  Pam Little: (02:07) They should be read out as  "commnets".

  Pam Little: (02:08) "comments". sorry.

  Julie Z: (02:08) @Alejandro Pisanty, I have the same concern

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:08) @Pam -- the Chat is noted for the record along with transcript

  HE JIA: (02:08) Why not consider to call for bids to operate PTI?

  Alejandro Pisanty: (02:12) The Board is the same order of magnitude as the ICANN Board so it is large; thx for the reply

  Jonathan Robinson: (02:12) The board is a 3-5 member board. It is much smaller than ICANN board.

  Feng: (02:13) will PTI be the subsidary of ICANN, another non-for profit company?

  Anupam Agrawal: (02:14) @ Feng..I understand that PTI is a subsidiary...

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:14) @Feng -- the CWG has proposed an affiliate of ICANN, likely as a California Public Benefit Corporation

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (02:15) In my opinio, if PTI loses the IANA Function to another IANA functions operation, it will just cease to have any function and it wil be up to ICANN to decide to dissolve it or not

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:16) Your mic is enabled Julie -- you need to activate it from your end or unmute

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (02:16) BUT -- that's of course only related to the Naming Function. PTI could continue work for the Protocols and for the Numbers

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (02:16) remember the possible splitting

  Feng: (02:17) @Anupam Agrawal @Grace Abuhamad thanks

  HE JIA: (02:17) After CWG proposal to submit to ICG, how does ICG to cooperate with CCWG ? What is the process?

  Jonathan Robinson: (02:18) @Julie. Thank-you very much. I agree with Lise, the group worked hard and well and sought to find common ground wherever possible. It was a true collaborative effort with excellent ICANN staff support.

  Janvier Ngnoulaye: (02:19) Expected answer to HE JIA question !

  Julie Z: (02:19) seems CWG is depending on ICG's coordination, with the other cumminities as well as with ICANN and NITA, but I didn't see any effective measures taken so far by ICG to communicate with ICANN or NTIA. Will there be plan B if any of them didn't buy the proposal?

  Julie Z: (02:22) Thank you, appreciate it.

  Jian Chang_KNET: (02:24) Good to know. Thank you!

  Matogoro Jabhera: (02:25) Can I get more clarification on how CSC will perform its operational responsibility

  Grace Abuhamad: (02:25) Here is a list of all the ICANN53 transition-related sessions: https://community.icann.org/x/EJg0Aw

  HE JIA: (02:26) Seems that after public comments of ICG, the ICG will sumbit the proposal to ICANN Board withouting waiting for CCWG until Oct? But   as NTIA said, the transfer said, the transition will not happen without a good CCWG proposal,. So I am still curious about the process

  Matogoro Jabhera: (02:27) Thanks

  Jonathan Robinson: (02:28) CSC will imonitor performance and interact with PTI management

  Jonathan Robinson: (02:28) The mission will be achieved through regular monitoring by the CSC of the performance of the IANA naming function against agreed service level targets and through mechanisms to engage with the IANA Functions Operator to remedy identified areas of concern

  M: (02:28) @He Jia : the two tracks will work in parallel and probably deliver roughly at same time

  M: (02:29) For disclosure M is Mathieu weill

  Allan Skuce: (02:30) Thanks, Bye

  Stanley Shan: (02:30) mercy,everyone

  Nikki Hu (BII): (02:30) thank you all

  Alejandro Pisanty: (02:30) Thank you very much, Lise. Cheers all, see you soon.

  Julie Z: (02:30) thank you all

  M: (02:30) Thank you Lise, excellent call !

  Janvier Ngnoulaye: (02:30) thank to all

  Annaliese Williams (Australia): (02:30) thank you Lise, and goodbye all

  Anupam Agrawal: (02:30) ThankYou All

  nigel hickson 2: (02:30) thanks; good call!

  Matogoro Jabhera: (02:30) Thanks You All

  Ghislain RICTA (Rwanda): (02:30) Thanks to you all too

  Arsene Tungali: (02:30) Have a nice day all, was a pleasure to be here

  Julie Hammer: (02:30) Thanks Lise!

  HE JIA: (02:30) Thanks, bye all

  Pam Little: (02:30) Thank you Lise.

  Feng: (02:31) bye

  Lise Fuhr: (02:31) Thank you all for joining

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Webinar 2

11 June 2015 06:00 UTC

Attendees: