Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the LACRALO Proposal of Metrics / Propuesta de metricas Teleconference on Tuesday 05 May 2015 at 18:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/SSsnAw
Silvia Vivanco:Hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Hola a todos
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Dev and all
Carlton Samuels:Hello everyone
sergio salinas porto:hi all!
Silvia Vivanco:Ok we are waiting for Alberto
Silvia Vivanco:few mins
Humberto Carrasco:Hola
Humberto Carrasco:hello
Silvia Vivanco:Bienvenido Diego
sergio salinas porto:hola diego!
Diego Acosta Bastidas:Gracias Silvia. Saludos a todos.
Humberto Carrasco:Siliva
Humberto Carrasco:puedes poner el link
Humberto Carrasco:de las metriocas
Humberto Carrasco:por favor
Silvia Vivanco:Alberto will join shortly
Silvia Vivanco:we shall wait a few mins 2-3 mins
Humberto Carrasco:Thanks
Terri Agnew:Proposal of Mectrics / Propuesta de metricas wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/kYIQAw
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you Terri
Silvia Vivanco:Terri will post it on screen too
Silvia Vivanco:The document is sync so everyone can pturn pages
Silvia Vivanco:you can see the proposal in 3 languages
Humberto Carrasco:Siliva, Alberto solicita que lo llamen al +5491162125559
Humberto Carrasco:por favor
Silvia Vivanco:ok
Humberto Carrasco:Gracias
Aída Noblia:Hola a todos
Terri Agnew:Welcome Aida Noblia
Silvia Vivanco:Hola Aida bienvenida
Alyne Andrade:Hola a todos
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I suggest there is a pause before each point in order to raise comments on each point
Carlton Samuels:pOINT OF ORDER PLEASE
Carlton Samuels:Sorry, didn't mean to shout
Aída Noblia:Hola Silvia, Gracias.
Carlton Samuels:I would like to make a point on a point of order please!
Humberto Carrasco:Carlton, Could yopu tell what is your proposal please
Humberto Carrasco:?
Terri Agnew:Roosvelt King has joined audio
Carlton Samuels:Dear Silvia, please take the following as a part of the offficial record
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Terri
Silvia Vivanco:Dear Carlton noted
Humberto Carrasco:I wanted to say, Could you tell me what is your proposal?
Carlton Samuels:BEGIN: Can the Chair affirm that the copy of April 14, 2014 as translated represents the official recording of the proposal? END
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:What's shown as the PDF is not what is being read
Carlton Samuels:Because if this is the case I suggest we dispense with the reading and move to the substantive issues. For the interpretation now going may very well be different from what is recorrded on the wiki!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alan Greenberg
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Never mind, the old version should have been removed
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:it is a little confusing with the old and new versions there on the same page
Silvia Vivanco:Dev the version posted is the latest version received and translated by ICANN translators
Silvia Vivanco:Dated April 14
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I know, its the two versions on the same page
Terri Agnew:We are still trying to reach Alberto via dial out
Carlton Samuels:@Silvia: OK. But the interpretation may differ Spanish to English! And I'm reading the English version without access to the Spanish spoken by Sergio!!
Alan Greenberg:On bridge
Terri Agnew:Alberto has joined audio
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I have some comments on the version just read (the April 2015 version)
Silvia Vivanco:ok Carlton it may be that the translation is different slightly from what is being interpreted simultaneously
Carlton Samuels:@Sergio: I understand my friend. Just that if we made the documents on the wiki official then there is no need for you to read it!
Silvia Vivanco:but the main meaning should be the same perhaps some words are different
Carlton Samuels:Just acknowledge that and lets move to the questions
Alan Greenberg:If official translation is available, interpreters can read those.
Carlton Samuels:@Alan: Yes. But that is not what is happening!
Alan Greenberg:I was making a suggestion!
Silvia Vivanco:Interpreters shall interpret the spoken word
Terri Agnew:Welcome Antonio Media Gomez
Antonio Medina Gómez:buenas tardes a todos
Silvia Vivanco:that is the standard simultaneous interpretation procedure
Humberto Carrasco:Alan is a good idea
Humberto Carrasco:we can rread the document in english
Humberto Carrasco:if Carlton is happy with that
Silvia Vivanco:@ En speakers our EN interpreter has read out the written text from the wiki so that there were no nuances
Silvia Vivanco:she has just confirmed this
Humberto Carrasco:ok
Diego Acosta Bastidas:PREGUNTA PARA HUMBERTO CARRASCO: Hay algun documento donde se resuman losdistintos quorum de os distintos procedimientos ? de acuerdo con la referencia que hace el documento de métricas " Hay procedimientos que exigen un número determinado de asistentes, tales como las votaciones, donde hay que reunir un quorum específico. Si este no se logra, no se pueden tomar decisiones. " Diego Acosta Bastidas
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alyne Andrade
Humberto Carrasco:Diego, aqui estan los documentos donde puedes encontrar los quorums
Humberto Carrasco:https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Organising+Documents
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The comments are on the wiki : https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51413649&focusedCommentId=51416429#comment-51416429
sergio salinas porto:hola Alyne y Alberto!!!
sergio salinas porto:Hola Diego
Silvia Vivanco:Carlton your audio is saturated so ES interpreters are having difficulties
Silvia Vivanco:but they are doing their best
Terri Agnew:Welcome Juan Manuel Rojas
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: Point 3, rather than making this an annoying burden for those persons in ALSes participating in At-Large by writing private reports to the chair and secretariat - the RALO monthly call should have updates from WGs as a standard agenda item for those persons to attend the call and give their updates in person. This would bring recognition of persons participating to the LACRALO community and foster discussion of issues being looked at by At-Large WGs in LACRALO. Point 3 can then be removed as this would then be captured as part of the discussions in the monthly LACRALO call.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:That way, LACRALO is made aware of the issues
Diego Acosta Bastidas:Estimado Humberto: gracias por la información.
Antonio Medina Gómez:me gustaría proponer algun metodo de validación de este documento. Que efectivamente todas las ALS participen y que todos tengan conocimiento de la importancia de aprobar documento de metricas.
Humberto Carrasco:Antonio, te invito a que hagas comentarios en la wiki
Humberto Carrasco:eso seria un gran aporte
Silvia Vivanco:I would like to ask you to set a methodology to incorporate the comments
Silvia Vivanco:and pen holders
Silvia Vivanco:please
Silvia Vivanco:and timeframes
sergio salinas porto:Dev sorry you can leave your comments on the wiki?
Alan Greenberg:If monthly meetings are well attended, a verbal report is likly to reach more people than a written report that no one reads!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'll try to be brief
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:We started 8 mins late
Antonio Medina Gómez:esto termina aqui o requiere mas analisis y conocimiento?
Silvia Vivanco:5 mins
Humberto Carrasco:El procedimiento a seguir será:1.- Esperar que se termine el plazo de comentarios de 30 días.2.- Despues tomar los comentarios y se va a preparar un documento final explicando cuales recomendaciones se recogen y cuales no.3.- Finalmente, se pondrá a votación el documento en los 3 idiomas.
Silvia Vivanco:Ok methodology : 1) Wait 30 days to end the comment period
Silvia Vivanco:2) Humberto for point 2 who will collect all the comments and incorporate them into the doc
Silvia Vivanco:3) Vote
Carlton Samuels:@Dev: +1
Silvia Vivanco:cuando acaban los 30 dias Humberto?
Carlton Samuels:I personally will not write another report. That is additional labour to no good end. I will however be on a call and update the conference
Humberto Carrasco:@Silvia hasta el 6 de Junio
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Agree with Alan " If monthly meetings are well attended, a verbal report is likly to reach more people than a written report that no one reads!"
Silvia Vivanco:ok I will note the methodology
Carlton Samuels:@Dev: Yes, I can see an apology received could be used to determine status of an event that requires quorum; So with enough apologies a call could be abandoned and resources released.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:foster discussion - not be slaves in reporting
Silvia Vivanco:and will post into the wiki
Alyne Andrade:Muchas Gracias
Silvia Vivanco:in 2 languages
Diego Acosta Bastidas:Gracias a todos.
Carlton Samuels:Not so sure it would make a difference since the resources would be prepped before the scheduled call
Aída Noblia:Saludos a todos
Humberto Carrasco:Bye Bye
Humberto Carrasco:adios a todos
Carlton Samuels:; you would ahve to pay interpreters even if we didn't show
