Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the LACRALO Monthly Teleconference on Monday, 19 January 2015 at 23:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/SoYQAw
casas:buenas tardes a todos
Terri Agnew:Welcome Cristian
casas:Un dia de luto en nuestro pais Argentina, muy consternados.
Aída Noblia:Buenas tardes a todos
tatiana toculescu:Buena stardes
casas:Bienvenido Alberto cristian casas
Silvia Vivanco:Hola a todos bienveidos
Silvia Vivanco:Bienvenidos
Terri Agnew:Welcome Carlton Samuels
Carlton Samuels:Hiya all
Fatima Cambronero:hola a todos /hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Carlton!
Silvia Vivanco:@ Alberto I am checking with CT if we can still send someone replacing Humberto Soto in Singapore
Silvia Vivanco:I will let you know ASAP
Alberto Soto:Thanks Silvia!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Dev!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alyne Andrade
Alyne Andrade:Hello!!!
Alyne Andrade:Thank you Terri
Alberto Soto:Olá Alyne!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Gilberto Lara
Terri Agnew:Welcome Ricardo Holmquist and Raitme Citterio
Ricardo Holmquist - ISOC Venezuela:Hi, ggood night everyone, sorry for beeing late
Carlton Samuels:Its in English because English is an official language of LACRALO!
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you for this excellent update Rodrigo
Ricardo Holmquist - ISOC Venezuela:se pierde el sonido?
Raitme Citterio:si
Silvia Vivanco:Excellent to see full focus and engagement in the Caribbean !
Silvia Vivanco:Rodrigo please be so kind to share the links to track progress of these projects
Silvia Vivanco:with us.
Silvia Vivanco:you can send it to the LACRALO ES/EN mail list
Alberto Soto:@Humberto, llegaste?
Humberto Carrasco:aqui estoy
Silvia Vivanco:Please if not speaking MUTE your phones
Alberto Soto:Alguien tiene el micrófono abierto....
Silvia Vivanco:por favor sirvase poner sus telefonos en MUDO cuando no hablen
Alberto Soto:Ok Humberto
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alfredo Lopez
Alfredo Lopez:Gracias Terri
Silvia Vivanco:Terri is uploading the PPT
Silvia Vivanco:taking some time to upload
Alberto Soto:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51418549
Johnny Laureano:si
Alfredo Lopez:Si se esta viendo
casas:si se ve
Fatima Cambronero:data protection is a national/local issue
Silvia Vivanco:We can also add Portuguese
Silvia Vivanco:upon request and if needed
Raitme Citterio:en cuanto a los temas creo que deberia tener en cuenta un area enfocada a la participación de lo nuevas als
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+Program+-+2015
Raitme Citterio:thanks Dev
Fatima Cambronero:I have the same concern than Dev about overlapping. But maybe I don't understand the difference with this initiative
Silvia Vivanco:I believe that the difference was that LACRALO's - GSE was "regional" so focused on the needs/realities of the region
Silvia Vivanco:therefore they wanted to enagage local speakers
Silvia Vivanco:and to the level required by the Region
Humberto Carrasco:I agree with silvia vivanco
Raitme Citterio:i agree with silvia vivanco
Fatima Cambronero:gracias Alberto
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:then why aren't LACRALO members involved/attending the At-Large Capacity building sessions ?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:they are open to all, and has interpretation
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:if the reasons aren't understood, then there might be the same result for these LACRALO GSE capacity building sessions
Terri Agnew:LACRALO Proposed procedure for the preparation, issuanceand publication of statements: https://community.icann.org/x/C67hAg
Terri Agnew:Proposal Recruitment of new ALS : https://community.icann.org/x/Aa7hAg
Terri Agnew:Proposal about metrics: https://community.icann.org/x/kYIQAw
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I suggest a week or two after the Singapore meeting
Fatima Cambronero:gracias Humberto por haber atendido a las solicitudes del Webinar sobre estos temas
Humberto Carrasco:Dev I think it is s good idea
Terri Agnew:Governance Group: https://community.icann.org/x/_8XbAQ
Silvia Vivanco:When is the date for new re-edited docs Humberto?
Terri Agnew:IANA Transition: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-01-07-en
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:since a lot of attention will be focused on the Singapore meeting, the persons especially being there in Singapore would have no time to review material
Humberto Carrasco:Silvia. I wanted to have everything ready for comments 31 of january
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you will note this as AI
Humberto Carrasco:But
Humberto Carrasco:we need to wait for translation
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and would the texts be translated and available on 31 Jan ?
Silvia Vivanco:Yes 1 week required for translation, although closer to the meeting translation services will be very busy
Silvia Vivanco:hence the sooner the better
Silvia Vivanco:if few edits are done, please send us the NEW text highlghted
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, language services will be very busy just before the meeting
Silvia Vivanco:so that translators can identify the changes
Humberto Carrasco:if that is the case, we can open to comments after singapore meeting
Silvia Vivanco:@ Humberto I would suggest opening comments after Singapore as to give all more time to focus on these docs
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think so, after the Singapore meeting
Humberto Carrasco:@Silvia, that's the idea
Raitme Citterio:si
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I admire the energy of Fatima and all the volunteers in the At-Large IANA WG participating in the IANA related discussions
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So kudos to them!
Fatima Cambronero:thaks @Dev! :)
Carlton Samuels:@Dev +1
Fatima Cambronero:*thanks
Silvia Vivanco:Indeed Dev, the commitement from At Large community is incredible! its a big effort that makes us all very proud to work with you
Raitme Citterio:se fue el audio
Silvia Vivanco:y Portugues las de LACRALO
Terri Agnew:Elections LACRALO : https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw
Raitme Citterio:para ahorrar tiempo es mejor lograr un consenso
Alfredo Lopez:Raitme comparto tu idea
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The situation has happened before
Raitme Citterio:es mejor lograr un consenso via email para ahorrar tiempo y recursos
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I suggest that to ensure that the LACRALO majority are informed, a poll can be done
Gilberto Lara:Consenso por correo estando permitido
Raitme Citterio:es mejor usar consenso via email
Carlton Samuels:@Election question: When you ask the question that way you still want to have a quorum. Would suggest that it be done the reverse
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:a special purpose call to attempt consensus will not work - a majority of members won't attend
Silvia Vivanco:Carlos estas en MUDO?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:leading to the same problem re: obtaining informed consensus
Terri Agnew:@Carlos, we are dialing back out to you
Fatima Cambronero:@Dev, @Carlton why not a speciall call to get consesnsus?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:you are very faint, Carlton
Silvia Vivanco:Carlton and Dev could you speak up?
Silvia Vivanco:and raise your hands to give your opinion please
Terri Agnew:@Carlton, we are unable to hear you
Silvia Vivanco:@ Dev what is the quorum required for consensus ?
Silvia Vivanco:according to your current rules?
Fatima Cambronero:I think I agree with Carlos suggestion
Johnny Laureano:+1 con Carlos Aguirre
Silvia Vivanco:go ahead Dev
Silvia Vivanco:Survey without country coefficient proposal by Dev
Carlton Samuels:@Dev: Exactly +1
Silvia Vivanco:so we run the poll Dev? and we just count the votes
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes, run the poll
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and count the votes
Silvia Vivanco:okay
Carlton Samuels:Do the poll to the question because you don't need a quorate response.
Fatima Cambronero:@Dev you convinced me :)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:sorry alberto can you repeat which option
Silvia Vivanco:so Carlton simple majority means consensus?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:you are asking for ?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and I see a lot of hands raised
Aída Noblia:Me parece , cque si hay un procedimiento establecido es necesario respetar ese procedimiento, es más conveniente , dlaro e incuestionable
Raitme Citterio:si tienes razon Aida
Carlton Samuels:This was responzse to the poll. YES for the poll
Humberto Carrasco:6
Fatima Cambronero:Alberto, repetí la pregunta
Alfredo Lopez:Seria bueno que primero indicaran las opciones de votar y luego si preceder
Humberto Carrasco:7
Fatima Cambronero:no todos entendieron qué estabas preguntanddo
Silvia Vivanco:6 agree (counted raised hands and ticks in AC room)
Aída Noblia:nadie tendrá nada que objetar. Del otro modo se está creando un procedimiento que no está previsto, lo que puede ser cuestionado posteriormente. Es bueno respetar los procedimientos establecidos, o se cambia el procedimiento o se respeta.
Silvia Vivanco:Online vote (with Country co-efficient) and option 2 is SURVEy (no country co-efficient)
Fatima Cambronero:survey biw
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and Carlton has expressed support for the poll
Fatima Cambronero:now
Silvia Vivanco:those are 2 options
Humberto Carrasco:3
Humberto Carrasco:4
Silvia Vivanco:4 for survey
casas:disculpas Alberto
Silvia Vivanco:5 now
Silvia Vivanco:Okay so decision: T
Silvia Vivanco:Staff to run the NORMAL poll with COUNTRY COEFFICIENT
Fatima Cambronero:Alberto tengo una pregunta
Terri Agnew:Policy Advice Development Page: https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:;-) Strictly speaking, it should be a vote since there was no consensus
Johnny Laureano:Fatima, para un proceso de eleccion no es necesario validarlo, se aplica el procedimiento y listo.
Terri Agnew:ICANN Public Comment page: ICANN Public Comment page
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:on whether to have a vote or poll
Terri Agnew:ICANN Public Comment page: https://www.icann.org/public-comments
Silvia Vivanco:Dev it was decided we will do a VOTE
Silvia Vivanco:more people wanted a vote not a poll
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: ;-) Strictly speaking, it should be a vote since there was no consensus on whether to have a vote or poll - there was 6 persons for online vote, 5 for the poll when persons were asked
Humberto Carrasco:iba a decir lo mismo que carlos
Carlton Samuels:@Carlos: You are correct
Fatima Cambronero:perfecto
Silvia Vivanco:@ Alberto and Humberto
Silvia Vivanco:we will need 1) WORDING for the vote
Silvia Vivanco:2) Timeframe
Silvia Vivanco:and I staff will send an email
Silvia Vivanco:Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Initial Report - ALAC commenting on Statement
Humberto Carrasco:@silvia
Humberto Carrasco:ok
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Initial Report - https://community.icann.org/x/_YYQAw
Silvia Vivanco:@ Alberto I still need to hear back from CT if we can replace Humberto
Silvia Vivanco:we will know for sure tomorrow
Humberto Carrasco:Gracias ASlberto
Silvia Vivanco:I have sent an URGENT message to CT
Silvia Vivanco:NARALO actua por consenso
Humberto Carrasco:ok
Silvia Vivanco:lanzaron el nombre a la lista
Johnny Laureano:would be a friend from Caribean or Carlos Aguirre.
Silvia Vivanco:el tema es si todavia no se perdio el ticket
Silvia Vivanco:y si se puede poner a otra persona
Humberto Carrasco:Thanks DEV
Carlton Samuels:@Fatima: The Chair of NARALO simply informed CT of their decision
Silvia Vivanco:correct Carlton
Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Carlton. I didn't know that
Silvia Vivanco:today USA is on Holiday but tomorrow we will know re the ticket
Humberto Carrasco:hace 3 horas
Carlton Samuels:@Fatima: The did a consensus call but that was intrnal to NARALO
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I understand fully, Humberto
Fatima Cambronero:+1 @Dev
Aída Noblia:Es un caso urgente. Requiere solución urgente. Esto de acuerdo que sea Carlos Aguirre.
Johnny Laureano:Correcto con Alberto Soto, que Alberto tome decision.
Humberto Carrasco:Alberto Yo propongo a sergio Salinas porto, pero tu decides
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:but the rest of LACRALO needs to be informed - I imagine there may be other persons that would want to attend
Carlton Samuels:@Alberto: You may not make that decision here.
Fatima Cambronero:agree @Carlton
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agree @Carlton
Fatima Cambronero:urgent email to the mailing list
Terri Agnew:Welcome Philippe Boland
Raitme Citterio:creo que es mejor asi
Raitme Citterio:via lista de email
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:have to get confirmation from the ICANN CT whether a replacement can be done ; then an email to the list asking who would want to attend in Humberto's stead
Silvia Vivanco:Tomorrow I will let all know if we can replace Humberto for travel
Aída Noblia:Saludos a todos
casas:tome la decision Alberto, tanto Carlos Aguirre como Ergio Salinas estan capacitados
Carlton Samuels:@Alberto: Send a message to the group proposing Carlos with a 24-hour deadline
Humberto Carrasco:adios
Johnny Laureano:Buenas noches a todos.
casas:buenas noches
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all
Silvia Vivanco:Good night !
Raitme Citterio:hasta luego y buena noches a todos
Carlton Samuels:Thanks all
Gilberto Lara:gracias, saludos
Silvia Vivanco:Gracias a todos
Alfredo Lopez:Buenas noches a todos
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:thanks all, take care all
Fatima Cambronero:gracias a todos /thanks all. Bye
Alyne Andrade:Muchas gracias! Buenas noches.
