Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Joint Board Candidate Evaluation Committee (BCEC) and Board Member Selection Process Committee (BMSPC) Working Group call on Wednesday 01 October 2014 at 2100 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/kBnxAg
Murray McKercher Toronto:I am early for a change :)
Terri Agnew:Welcome Murray!
Roberto:Hi, all
Terri Agnew:Welcome Roberto
Roberto:somebody is typing with mute off
Roberto::)
Murray McKercher Toronto:Hello Terri I am on AC with AC audio as well, hear everyone well
Terri Agnew:Welcome Murray
Roberto:@Terri - why did Murray get two welcome and I only one?
Terri Agnew:Oh no,what have I done LOL
Alan Greenberg:3
Alan Greenberg:2
Alan Greenberg:1
Roberto:I love the first minutes of the teleconferences because we can tell jokes :)
Alan Greenberg:ZERO
Roberto:Then the serious staff starts....
Alan Greenberg:Could someone send me a copy of that document please?
Terri Agnew:@Alan, I just sent it to you
Roberto:@alan - if I understood, what doc you need, I did
Terri Agnew:Welcome Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone - sorry for being late
Roberto:Start earlier just the selection of the Chairs, nothing else
Alan Greenberg:SAy that it needs to begin earlier and offer the options made
Eduardo Diaz:too lLOUD!
Terri Agnew:@Roberto, are you able to lower you mic volume?
Terri Agnew:@Roberto, please let me know if you prefer a dial out
Roberto:@Terri - I will use headphones and mike on headphones, we will see if it works better - echo will be eliminated
Alan Greenberg:That is aprt of Roberto's rec to have the leaders in place and start the administrative process early.
Terri Agnew:@Roberto, much better
Terri Agnew:@Roberto, we are unable to hear you
Terri Agnew:@Roberto, we are now able to hear you again
Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute your mic or phone when not speaking
Terri Agnew:@Murray, we are unable to hear you, please check your mute
Murray McKercher Toronto:sorry give me a moment
Roberto:murray is muted, according to the icon I see
Alan Greenberg:That is the kind of thing that any BCEC can decide.
Roberto:630 evauation is too much, 360 is sufficient :)
Alan Greenberg:They messed up this year. Hopefully not again...
Alan Greenberg:It is not our call, but we can say what we want.
Alan Greenberg:that was with respect to evaluations being released.
Alan Greenberg:Note that we have no control over a future Board deciding not to do evaluations.
Roberto:I think that the root cause is that the 360 eval is done only when it is renewal time, this is nonsense, because one of the advantages of the eval is to allow the Direcor to improve - but this is not our problem as BCEC
Murray McKercher Toronto:I agree
Roberto:At least, not provide reference to multiple candidates
Roberto:I don't think that a referee can say for multiple persons that they think they are the best candidate
Roberto:Alan +1
Roberto:I will provide the list - not tonight, but by LA
Eduardo Diaz:MAybe the ALAC technology groupo could look at this
Eduardo Diaz:Are thsese problems listed somewhere?
Eduardo Diaz:Dev should at the list to see how his group can help
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:great, that would be good to look at
Roberto:@Eduardo, I believe I have sent them, but I will find my own papers - sometime :)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Roberto - I do recall your note from the last call mentioning 4 bullet points
Roberto:Voters are making the good choice if you like the result :)
Alan Greenberg:@Roberto. Of course!
Roberto:@Dev - thanks, I have found the file, I will fwd to the team
Terri Agnew:Welcome Heidi Ullrich
Alan Greenberg:I have no problem removing the "only once" rule
Alan Greenberg:It was added to control time, but allowing the BMSPC to decide is fine
Murray McKercher Toronto:In any ICANN governance and voting has this issue ever come up, or are we attempting to address an issue that has not surfaced before?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Should we start having white smoke and black smoke off an official ALAC smoke stack off the ICANN offices? ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I wonder what environementally-consious California will think about this....
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:cut at the best time....
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry
Heidi Ullrich:Olivier is in Kiev atm
Heidi Ullrich:We will try to get him back
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I guess I am allowed to listen but not allowed to speak here :-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:back on
Alan Greenberg:Strategic voting to select the weakest candidate is a real issue.
Roberto:I think that a teleconference among the voters could be at least an attempt to solve the issue, people will have to tell the reasons why they vote
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I doubt the Board would want to get involved
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Of course the way to avoid this is to have an odd number of electors
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:as I said - brainstroming...
Alan Greenberg:This will all go to the ALAC and they will need to involve their RALOs. SO we do not need closure here.
Roberto:Just the two
Eduardo Diaz:Need to go.
Terri Agnew:Goodbye Eduardo
Murray McKercher Toronto:I must leave the meeting shortly, just wanted to comment on Roberto's earlier comments on "Starting Earlier" I support this wholeheartedly as in the last BCEC process, which did take place over a holiday period made it challenging to hold as many calls discussion the candidates as I feel was necessary.
Murray McKercher Toronto:signing off Thanks to all
Terri Agnew:goodbye Murray
Alan Greenberg:It is highly unlikely that the Bylaws would be changed because of our voting methodology.
Heidi Ullrich:Olivier has dropped. We are dialing him back
Alan Greenberg:Shouldn't we just say that to the extent possible, electors have the ability to be fully informed and that includes all kinds of interactions.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Agree with Alan
Roberto:+1
Terri Agnew:Oliiver is back on
Alan Greenberg:For Startrek fans, in the future we will use mind-melds
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:;-)
Terri Agnew:Olivier line has dropped, we are dialing back out to him
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed
Roberto:+1 Alan
Terri Agnew:Olivier has rejoined
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:THanks Tijani, take care all