Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Joint Board Candidate Evaluation Committee (BCEC) and Board Member Selection Process Committee (BMSPC) Working Group call on Wednesday 01 October 2014 at 2100 UTC

  Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/kBnxAg

  Murray McKercher Toronto:I am early for a change :)

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Murray!

  Roberto:Hi, all

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Roberto

  Roberto:somebody is typing with mute off

  Roberto::)

  Murray McKercher Toronto:Hello Terri I am on AC with AC audio as well, hear everyone well

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Murray

  Roberto:@Terri - why did Murray get two welcome and I only one?

  Terri Agnew:Oh no,what have I done LOL

  Alan Greenberg:3

  Alan Greenberg:2

  Alan Greenberg:1

  Roberto:I love the first minutes of the teleconferences because we can tell jokes :)

  Alan Greenberg:ZERO

  Roberto:Then the serious staff starts....

  Alan Greenberg:Could someone send me a copy of that document please?

  Terri Agnew:@Alan, I just sent it to you

  Roberto:@alan - if I understood, what doc you need, I did

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Dev Anand Teelucksingh

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone - sorry for being late

  Roberto:Start earlier just the selection of the Chairs, nothing else

  Alan Greenberg:SAy that it needs to begin earlier and offer the options made

  Eduardo Diaz:too lLOUD!

  Terri Agnew:@Roberto, are you able to lower you mic volume?

  Terri Agnew:@Roberto, please let me know if you prefer a dial out

  Roberto:@Terri - I will use headphones and mike on headphones, we will see if it works better - echo will be eliminated

  Alan Greenberg:That is aprt of Roberto's rec to have the leaders in place and start the administrative process early.

  Terri Agnew:@Roberto, much better

  Terri Agnew:@Roberto, we are unable to hear you

  Terri Agnew:@Roberto, we are now able to hear you again

  Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute your mic or phone when not speaking

  Terri Agnew:@Murray, we are unable to hear you, please check your mute

  Murray McKercher Toronto:sorry give me a moment

  Roberto:murray is muted, according to the icon I see

  Alan Greenberg:That is the kind of thing that any BCEC can decide.

  Roberto:630 evauation is too much, 360 is sufficient :)

  Alan Greenberg:They messed up this year. Hopefully not again...

  Alan Greenberg:It is not our call, but we can say what we want.

  Alan Greenberg:that was with respect to evaluations being released.

  Alan Greenberg:Note that we have no control over a future Board deciding not to do evaluations.

  Roberto:I think that the root cause is that the 360 eval is done only when it is renewal time, this is nonsense, because one of the advantages of the eval is to allow the Direcor to improve - but this is not our problem as BCEC

  Murray McKercher Toronto:I agree

  Roberto:At least, not provide reference to multiple candidates

  Roberto:I don't think that a referee can say for multiple persons that they think they are the best candidate

  Roberto:Alan +1

  Roberto:I will provide the list - not tonight, but by LA

  Eduardo Diaz:MAybe the ALAC technology groupo could look at this

  Eduardo Diaz:Are thsese problems listed somewhere?

  Eduardo Diaz:Dev should at the list to see how his group can help

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:great, that would be good to look at

  Roberto:@Eduardo, I believe I have sent them, but I will find my own papers - sometime :)

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Roberto -  I do recall your note from the last call mentioning 4 bullet points

  Roberto:Voters are making the good choice if you like the result :)

  Alan Greenberg:@Roberto. Of course!

  Roberto:@Dev - thanks, I have found the file, I will fwd to the team

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Heidi Ullrich

  Alan Greenberg:I have no problem removing the "only once" rule

  Alan Greenberg:It was added to control time, but allowing the BMSPC to decide is fine

  Murray McKercher Toronto:In any ICANN governance and voting has this issue ever come up, or are we attempting to address an issue that has not surfaced before?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Should we start having white smoke and black smoke off an official ALAC smoke stack off the ICANN offices? ;-)

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I wonder what environementally-consious California will think about this....

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:cut at the best time....

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry

  Heidi Ullrich:Olivier is in Kiev atm

  Heidi Ullrich:We will try to get him back

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I guess I am allowed to listen but not allowed to speak here :-)

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:back on

  Alan Greenberg:Strategic voting to select the weakest candidate is a real issue.

  Roberto:I think that a teleconference among the voters could be at least an attempt to solve the issue, people will have to tell the reasons why they vote

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I doubt the Board would want to get involved

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Of course the way to avoid this is to have an odd number of electors

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:as I said - brainstroming...

  Alan Greenberg:This will all go to the ALAC and they will need to involve their RALOs. SO we do not need closure here.

  Roberto:Just the two

  Eduardo Diaz:Need to go.

  Terri Agnew:Goodbye Eduardo

  Murray McKercher Toronto:I must leave the meeting shortly, just wanted to comment on Roberto's earlier comments on "Starting Earlier"  I support this wholeheartedly as in the last BCEC process, which did take place over a holiday period made it challenging to hold as many calls discussion the candidates as I feel was necessary.

  Murray McKercher Toronto:signing off Thanks to all

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Murray

  Alan Greenberg:It is highly unlikely that the Bylaws would be changed because of our voting methodology.

  Heidi Ullrich:Olivier has dropped. We are dialing him back

  Alan Greenberg:Shouldn't we just say that to the extent possible, electors have the ability to be fully informed and that includes all kinds of interactions.

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Agree with Alan

  Roberto:+1

  Terri Agnew:Oliiver is back on

  Alan Greenberg:For Startrek fans, in the future we will use mind-melds

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:;-)

  Terri Agnew:Olivier line has dropped, we are dialing back out to him

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed

  Roberto:+1 Alan

  Terri Agnew:Olivier has rejoined

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All.

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:THanks Tijani, take care all

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