Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the monthly NARALO call on Monday 10 June 2013 at 1900 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/PSJ-Ag
Peter Knight:I am here in Rio. de janeiro, logged in as guest -- can I do more, not sure where to put the meeting number. Weather great here.
Garth Bruen:Hi!
Peter Knight:Hello, Darlene -- can stay about 15 minutes only -- had previous commitment
Darlene Thompson:Nice to see you here for whatever amount of time, Peter!
Peter Knight:Please, not sure I'm logged in correctly
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome all to the call
Allan Skuce:No Problems with Adobe Connect here.
Norberto Cruz Córdova:Saludos desde Puerto Rico! Hello Everyone!
Peter Knight:Please, I can hear everyone, but can't speak to you
Peter Knight:Please, I can hear everyone, but can't speak to you]
Evan Leibovitch:I must say that it's REALLY good to see the people here. Lots of new names and a few long-timers. Welcome!
Glenn McKnight:Hi
Dharma Dailey:How do I mute my mic?
Chris Grundemann (CO ISOC):click it
Evan Leibovitch:Mike icon at the top of the screen
Silvia Vivanco:Staff will take the Action Items
Peter Knight:Is the Icon the one that looks like a telephone?
Julia Charvolen:Seth Reisse joined the call
Julia Charvolen:Reiss
Silvia Vivanco: 3.3 https://meetings.icann.org/ICANN47
Glenn McKnight:I only hear music
Glenn McKnight:Hi Seth
Evan Leibovitch:NARALO's new soundtrack.
seth reiss:Hi Glenn
Peter Knight:Hello Brother (Mc)Knight
Glenn McKnight:Hi Peter
Norberto Cruz Córdova:It's my first meeting at ICANN
Peter Knight:Good to be with you, have to leave in about 10 minutes unfortunately.
Evan Leibovitch:Welcome, Norberto
Glenn McKnight:I would suggest all of the NARALO members who are in Durban schedule a face to face meeting
Norberto Cruz Córdova:Thanks Evan
Joly MacFie:Chris, is that inter or intra region or both?
Glenn McKnight:The next ARIN meeting is in Phoenix Arizona in August
Garth Bruen:Thanks Glenn
Glenn McKnight:ARIN on the Road event on June 13th at Quebec City
Evan Leibovitch:sorry, forgot to lower my hand
Peter Knight:I want to just test my mike
Evan Leibovitch:Wasn't June 6 IPV6 day?
Chris Grundemann (CO ISOC):yes, the one year anniversary
Glenn McKnight:Correction on the ARIN meeting in Arizona 10 - 11 October 2013
Glenn McKnight:Noise in background
Joly MacFie:that's peter knight
Alan Greenberg:PLEASE MUTE!!!!!
Heidi Ullrich:Please could you mute your lines if you are not speaking
Glenn McKnight:Tried to reach Murray
Chris Grundemann (CO ISOC):apologies all, I must drop now and return to the conference I am physically attending =) - please feel free to ping me on any address policy issues, cheers
Peter Knight:I only raised hand to see how to speak. -- tried to use the mike. pehaps it works now, it's now green, but I have to leave now.
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome!!
Julia Charvolen:Your mic works Peter
Glenn McKnight:Thanks Garth, Kerry Brown from Vancouver has volunteered to sit on NARALO
Julia Charvolen:the backgroung noise came from your line
Heidi Ullrich:Evan, did you have your hand rasied?
Evan Leibovitch:Yes, it was to introduce Kerry :-)
Kerry Brown:Thank you for welcome ISOC Canada
Glenn McKnight:Hi Kerry
Evan Leibovitch:Kerry is the ALS rep for ISOC Canada
Glenn McKnight:It went zip....
Heidi Ullrich:NARALO Selection, Election and Appointments wor4kspace:https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/2013+NARALO+Selection%2C+Election+and+Appointments+Workspace
Silvia Vivanco:https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/2013+NARALO+Selection%2C+Election+and+Appointments+Workspace
Glenn McKnight:For the record the WIKI deadline states 9 July 2013 - Nomination Acceptance deadline not June 7th
Heidi Ullrich:@Glenn, for which position(s)?
Glenn McKnight:Hi Heidi see the link
Glenn McKnight:https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/2013+NARALO+Selection%2C+Election+and+Appointments+Workspace
Joly MacFie:I think in Skype Murray said he would join us at the half hour.
Heidi Ullrich:Yes, I'm looking at it. There are three positions opened
Glenn McKnight:Its the date June 9th not June 7th as Darlene keeps stating on the call
Glenn McKnight:He could not stay
Julia Charvolen:Peter is no longer on the call
Glenn McKnight:Also the issue of who can nominate someone was an issue
Darlene Thompson:On the Wiki space that you just pointed to - it shows the 7th. Either way, its over.
Darlene Thompson:Peter decided not to run for ALAC.
Heidi Ullrich:Glenn,the wiki shows the following schedule for the NomCom delegate position:
Heidi Ullrich: TIMELINEThe ALAC ExCom suggested the following timetable for nominations and consultation recommendations from RALOs for consideration by the ALAC for appointment as the 2014 NomCom At-Large Delegate positions:1. Nominations Open: 27 May 20132. Nominations Close: 7 June 20133. Nomination Acceptance Deadline: On or before 14 June 20134. RALO nominee prioritization period: Between 14-24 June 2013 (this may include a vote if desired)5. ALAC Notification: RALOs to transmit all accepted nominations with a recommendation for a preferred candidate if the RALO wishes to provide one by 25 June 20136. ALAC Review of RALO Recommendations/Additional List of Nominations Accepted: 25 June - 2 July 20137. ALAC selection and endorsement vote: Carried out on-line between 2 July - 8 July8. Notification to NomCom of Appointees: No later than 12 July 2013 or as arranged with NomCom Secretariat
Darlene Thompson:Thank you, Heidi.
Garth Bruen:"Many people on holiday" NOT HERE!
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All, I have been noting the nominations for the various NARALO positions. I have not seen any nominations for Murray and Peter.
Heidi Ullrich:If they were made, please inform me.
Glenn McKnight:I don't think these new members didn't realize they could self nominate. I know both expressed interest
Glenn McKnight:What is Peter's status
Glenn McKnight:What ALS is Peter associated with?
Joly MacFie:Eric posted his input to the list, it could be read into the record.
Darlene Thompson:Peter is an unaffiliated member but has decided not to run for a position at this time.
Glenn McKnight:Can a unaffiliated member run for a position?
Darlene Thompson:Yes, Glenn
Glenn McKnight:Kerry did you get this link to the ALS Webinar?
Kerry Brown:Yes I did. I believe it is tomorrow
Heidi Ullrich:The NARALO GA will be held during the week of the Summit
Heidi Ullrich:Likely Mon, Tues or WEd
Glenn McKnight:- the 2013 Nominating Committee has completed the first of the traditionalthree work phases;- at the close of the 2013 application period on May 15, 2013 at 23:59 UTC,NomCom had received 110 Statements Of Interest. This is more than in anyone year since 2003 (when 110 SOIs were also received);- the 2013 NomCom has received 12 applications from Africa, 30 fromAsia/Australia and the Pacific Islands, 32 from Europe, 18 from LatinAmerica and the Caribbean Islands, 18 from North America. 27 candidates arefemale and 83 are male.- it is now that the recruitment phase is complete, and the NomCom hasmoved on to the evaluation phase.A very important work to be done still lies ahead of us and we are allcommitted to complete successfully and professionally this work on time!
Glenn McKnight:Tried to try to reach Murray by phone
Garth Bruen:A rant, from Evan?
Glenn McKnight:Ha Ha
Glenn McKnight:I didnt like their survey
Glenn McKnight:Staff sent out a ATRT survey
Kerry Brown:I spent two hours on the survey and still didn't get it finished. When I went back my session had timed out so I gave up.
Garth Bruen:@Kerry, it was poorly structured
Glenn McKnight:I didn't like the fact they wanted your name and then they didn't make normal and logical choices for questions
seth reiss:Gotta go. See you next month.
Glenn McKnight:They emailed me reminding me that I didn't finish the survey!
Glenn McKnight:It was a weird whistle blower approach
Glenn McKnight:Good comment Gordon . Too short of time to deal with in good measure
Glenn McKnight:On reporting, we lack working group reports as a whole.
Gordon Chillcott:On reporting - I should report on the TTF, given my activity on it. And I will.
Evan Leibovitch:Gordon: every time someone uses "mcdonalds" instead of "mcdonalds.com" in their browser window, they are choosing to use search rather than a memorable domain name.
Gordon Chillcott:Understood, and agreed to. But there is this - the search engine returns ULR's. Which go to the DNS.
Gordon Chillcott:The fact that the end-user does not use DNS as the primary vehicle for asking questions (and really never did) does not make it anty less relevant.
Evan Leibovitch:But those URLS could be unintelligible ... as they already are to anyone who normally writes in a non-latin script
Evan Leibovitch:Or use third level domains, etc
Joly MacFie:the end user very much uses the domain name for identification.
Gordon Chillcott:Understood. And again I agree. But again, what is the product of the search engine?
Eduardo Diaz:Hello all. I finished the other meeting earlier.
Glenn McKnight:Note all who are travelling you may need a Yellow Fever shot if you were in a Tropical location prior to the event
Garth Bruen:Can staff provide a link to the SSAC report
Eduardo Diaz:@Glenn - define tropical location.
Glenn McKnight:If your passport states a recent visit you will need to provide proof of the shot. If no documenation they will innoculate upon arrival
Norberto Cruz Córdova:Thanks for the opportunity to participate in this meeting
Glenn McKnight:Prior to the event the African Internet Governance forum in Durban
Evan Leibovitch:Gordon: (from the PoV of the end user), search engines present a series of choices -- not URLs -- that users can select in order to get to their destination. The user never knows the domain name of where they went.
Evan Leibovitch:so the whole point of needing a memorable domain name diminishes,
Garth Bruen:Can't hear you Glenn
Glenn McKnight:I am unmuted
Evan Leibovitch:Jaimie who?
Glenn McKnight:ready
Garth Bruen:Ok, you're next
Glenn McKnight:ok
Gordon Chillcott:Your last point is the key. And deserves consideration.
Evan Leibovitch:The letter tries to make the case that if the DNS better served the public interest, there would be less need to seek alternatives.
Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you all
Norberto Cruz Córdova:Bye!
Darlene Thompson:Alan's evil link is in 5.8.1