Zoom Chat: 2021-06-10 AFRALO Operating Principles Review Working Group Call

10:01:39 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome to the AFRALO Operating Principles Review Working Group Call
10:05:20 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Welcome all
10:07:05 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Looks good
10:07:22 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
looks ok
10:09:00 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DhMbAbI1WqKzk5IEARMcAqlPK1uNWNlRQj4RQTj9OY4/edit
10:11:31 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome, Daniel
10:14:39 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
In NARALO and APRALO they all collectively have 1 vote
10:14:49 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome, Hadia to the call
10:14:58 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thank you
10:15:05 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
apologies for being late
10:15:11 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DhMbAbI1WqKzk5IEARMcAqlPK1uNWNlRQj4RQTj9OY4/edit
10:17:04 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
I have a follow up question about that
10:17:50 From Aziz Hilali to Everyone:
How many individual members do we have now?
10:21:04 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
@Aziz 16 Individual members at the moment
10:21:23 From Aziz Hilali to Everyone:
Thank you Silvia
10:21:46 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Individual members list: https://atlarge.icann.org/individual-members
10:23:34 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Yes, then won’t it be unfair to ALS members?
10:23:49 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Final question: Is there a way for us to know how many members are in each ALS?
10:25:54 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
loud and clear
10:25:55 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
yes sarah
10:29:05 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Personally I think the EURALO option works very well and even the individual members are happy with the system
10:29:17 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
we can hear you aziz
10:29:55 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA to Everyone:
can't we adopt the Euralo system?
10:30:09 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
+1 Aziz
10:31:11 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
the audio is breaking
10:32:48 From Seun S. Ojedeji to Everyone:
@Daniel we can if that is what we want
10:34:01 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Je suis d’accord Aziz
10:34:13 From Aziz Hilali to Everyone:
Thanks Sarah
10:38:47 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Reviewing after 1 year seems doable
10:39:38 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
I finished
10:39:46 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
The next election season will be in April- May 2022 so that would be the opportunity to test the new rules on votes
10:40:01 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
And the review could be afterwards sometime in 2022
10:40:07 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Thanks Hadia. I like the idea of reviewing after 1 year and not 2
10:40:29 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
@Seun are you able to hear us?
10:40:48 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Aziz hand is also up I think
10:41:55 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Yes Aziz I agree they need to be active member in their community
10:42:10 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
active members in their community
10:42:54 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Daniel first
10:44:01 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Daniel disconnected
10:47:13 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
+1 to sustainability
10:47:20 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Makes sense Seun
10:47:46 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA to Everyone:
apologies, network issues
10:48:05 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1 they need to have a vote
10:48:28 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Hello sorry for joining late
10:48:43 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome, Abdeldjalil
10:49:00 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Thanks Claudia
10:49:15 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
AFRALO can follow the same example as APRALO and NARALO both have one representative who casts the votes on behalf of all
10:50:05 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
option 2 has the benefit of encouraging more members to join
10:50:55 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Yes I can help with that @Sarah
10:51:14 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Thank you, Silvia
10:51:32 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
I see the merit of having each individual cast his/her vote
10:51:46 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
we don't need to follow what they are doing
10:55:28 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone:
Welcome, Michel
10:55:51 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
Thank Claudia
10:56:25 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Like I am saying let's go with option 1, but let each individual cast his/her own vote
10:56:42 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
@Sarah why do we want to look like an ALS?
10:57:14 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Why do we want individual members to look like an ALS
10:57:48 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
We are creating a new ALS with individual members and this is not the intention.
10:58:22 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Seun first
10:58:44 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
This Hybrid system is not easy
10:58:52 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
:-)
10:59:31 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Yes Barrack :-)
11:00:30 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
How about retaining them as observers
11:00:32 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
It's true Barack
11:01:02 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
@Barrack, I am now beginning to believe that route is better
11:01:15 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Yes Seun
11:01:16 From Barrack Otieno to Everyone:
easiest way is to have them as observers if they want a say join an ALS or create an ALS
11:01:23 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
I will let you know the procedures
11:01:28 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
I will take it as AI
11:02:39 From Seun S. Ojedeji to Everyone:
@Barrack unless we want to change the rules of ALAC we can't have them as Observers
11:02:46 From Seun S. Ojedeji to Everyone:
they are individual members
11:03:33 From Seun S. Ojedeji to Everyone:
I will suggest we meet more than once a week so we can get this to closure sooner than later
11:03:56 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
I don't think individual members need to coordinate nor have a leader - they should not look like an ALS - I think
11:05:02 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
fine by me
11:05:22 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1
11:05:27 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
+1
11:05:28 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Ok, with me
11:05:31 From Seun S. Ojedeji to Everyone:
Thats fine by me
11:05:35 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Okay for me
11:05:50 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
all are good for me
11:06:17 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Tuesday 29 June at 18 UTC
11:06:19 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
?
11:06:30 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
ok
11:06:41 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
+1
11:06:53 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
thank you all bye for now
11:07:06 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Thank you
11:07:10 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
Thank bye bye