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08:51:31 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Welcome to APRALO CIP-CCG Small Team Call taking place on Monday, 24 June 2024 at 06:00 UTC.
08:51:42 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/WIBWF
08:59:28 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Welcome to everyone!
09:01:38 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    We have quite a few apologies today
09:04:39 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Yes Cheryl
09:05:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I just see a LOT of references to DNSSEC in our listings ;-)
09:05:40 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    DNSSEC or successor?
09:06:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    It is causing more issues that=n it is solving as a real observation
09:07:00 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    So, we withhold all efforts related to DNSSEC?
09:07:16 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    At request only
09:07:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "At request only" with 
09:08:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Focus on SaferCyber seems a preference
09:08:17 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Focus on SaferCyber ..." with 
09:08:24 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    Falls under [participation in any At-Large Loop Campaigns]
09:10:55 From jasmine to Everyone:
    ok
09:13:05 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Maybe better not use “geopolitical”, but for sure we know they are part of the discussion elements
09:13:16 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Yes I was saying and mentioning that only
09:13:17 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Fragmentation and MSH are better wording to use
09:13:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I agree term geopolitical could be avoided
09:14:22 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    And with respect to multistakeholder term we better can use fragmentation as we are already discussing multistakeholder part in one of the criteria
09:15:00 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    yes
09:15:06 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    Yes, Principle 1 Criteria 1
09:15:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Yes, Principle 1 Cri..." with 
09:15:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "And with respect to ..." with 
09:16:09 From Ashirwad Tripathy to Everyone:
    Yes I would prefer avoiding geopolitics.
09:16:53 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    We have discussed till criteria 3 for principle 1 before
09:17:16 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Okay might be I m mistaken
09:19:11 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Agree ++
09:19:24 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Yes we should make lesser targets
09:19:34 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Yes I was confused with 5
09:20:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    We alsoneed to leave some things for a future point in CIP ;-)
09:21:55 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    ICP 3 talks about Alternative naming system which itself is a part of Internet fragmentation…so I was thinking if we can relate it here
09:22:43 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Can I put the link of the paper here in comments so everyone can read or have an idea about it.
09:23:16 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Okay…got it
09:23:35 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Replying to "Can I put the link o..."
    
    Why not  good to have some reference in parking lot
09:24:47 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Replying to "Can I put the link o..."
    
    https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/unique-authoritative-root-2012-02-25-en
09:25:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    yes just respondants
09:26:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    targets should be achievable (especially to start with ;-)
09:27:13 From jasmine to Everyone:
    I think we can push more ppl to respond then we can aim slightly higher - e.g. dm some people 
09:27:21 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "targets should be ac..." with 
09:27:32 From jasmine to Everyone:
    20 is good
09:28:08 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Agree Cheryl
09:28:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    strive for success *that is actually achievable ;-)
09:29:04 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Reacted to "strive for success *..." with 
09:29:11 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "strive for success *..." with 
09:30:50 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Is it saying in what condition we need small team
09:31:14 From jasmine to Everyone:
    I agree with simple term
09:33:48 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "I agree with simple ..." with 
09:33:48 From jasmine to Everyone:
    What would be most outstanding accessibility challenge if any of you spot?
09:34:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Annual to start with
09:34:49 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Support
09:35:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    YES to Annual Report
09:35:16 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "YES to Annual Report" with 
09:36:22 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Any realistic metric?
09:36:27 From jasmine to Everyone:
09:36:30 From jasmine to Everyone:
    ok
09:36:48 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Maybe just simply keep number of subscriber
09:36:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Can we plan to switch to a mailchimp or similar ?  check with IT on options etc?
09:39:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    merging for us makes sense  AND  we note the newness of our RoPs
09:41:09 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Merge 4,5 and 6
09:42:05 From jasmine to Everyone:
    4 seem to be pre period, 5 and 6 seem post period
09:42:15 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    yes
09:42:17 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Merge is good tho
09:42:19 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    We can merge 4,5,6
09:42:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Yes Jas it is a process  probably over then next 2-3 years actually ;-)
09:42:47 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Yes Jas it is a proc..." with

09:43:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Drop 7 altogether
09:43:10 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Agree
09:43:20 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Drop
09:43:22 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    agree
09:43:44 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Timely as element is already in all criteria
09:44:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    They are complementary
09:44:34 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Small difference … but still different
09:44:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    believe me you can get 1 without the other ;-0
09:45:14 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "believe me you can g..." with 
09:46:28 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Agree
09:47:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    than test those timelines
09:49:28 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    yes
09:50:34 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    Prioritization
09:51:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "Prioritization"
    
    Yup :-)
09:52:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Not sure it belongs here Jas
09:53:33 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Not sure it belongs ..." with 
09:54:08 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
    Here we're talking about assessing input
09:54:58 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Got it now - let me take it off
09:54:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    SO a review at a meeting
09:54:59 From jasmine to Everyone:
    first
09:55:13 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    How we react to inputs
09:55:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Jes  engagement  performance metric
09:56:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Good progress today Team !
09:56:29 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Good progress today ..." with 
09:56:32 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Consensus for merging 
09:56:53 From jasmine to Everyone:
    much clarity while working on together
09:57:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "much clarity while w..." with 
09:57:19 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    No it is much clear now
09:57:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    AGainsome more may merge or be dropped in P4
09:57:50 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Homework on Principle 4
09:57:52 From jasmine to Everyone:
    Ok lets focus on principle 4
09:58:05 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    ok
09:58:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Less is certainly more here :-)
09:58:25 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    yes
09:58:32 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Less is certainly mo..." with 
10:01:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Thanks everyone ... bye for now.
10:01:40 From Barkha Manral to Everyone:
    Thank you