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Attendees:
Members: Wanawit Ahkuputra; Jaap Akkerhuis; Donna Austin; Graeme Bunton; Fatima Cambronero; Olivier Crepin-Leblond; Eduardo Diaz; Lise Fuhr; Robert Guerra; Erick Iriarte; Staffan Jonson; Paul Kane; Elise Lindeberg; Vika Mpisane; Jonathan Robinson; Greg Shatan
Participants: Guru Acharya; Martin Boyle; Keith Davidson; Stephanie Duchesneau; Amr Elsadr; Lars-Erik Forsberg; Alan Greenberg; Geetha Hariharan; Gary Hunt; Malcolm Hutty; Boyoung Kim; Stacey King; Wolf-Ulrich Knoben; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana; Allan MacGillivray; Camino Manjon-Sierra; Desiree Miloshevic; Minjung Park; Jorg Schweiger; Claudia Selli; Matthew Shears; Maarten Simon; Mary Uduma; Peter Van Roste.
Staff: Grace Abuhamad; Bart Boswinkel; Berry Cobb; Marika Konings; Jim Trengrove; Bernard Turcotte; Theresa Swinehart
Apologies: Chuck Gomes
**Please let Grace know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
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Introduction / Review of Agenda / Timeline
- Introductions
- Theresa Swinehart
- Jim Tengrove
- CWG Introductions
- Overall objective to publish comprehensive draft transition proposal for public comment by 1 December
- Significant progress made on 1, 2a, 2b and 2c
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- RFP3 - objective to converge to a single, unified proposal at least at a framework level by end of day tomorrow
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- Some time will be needed to allow for consultations / input by those that are not in attendance.
How to achieve these common objectives? Ground rules
- Ground rules: familiar with materials to date, focus on moving the conversation forward; ensure that all view points are raised (
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- coordinators to assist in ensuring that all view points are raised);
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- possibility to have sideconversations if needed;
- express views either as an individual or as representatives of your groups; no formal time limit for now, but please be aware of overall timeframe; please state rationale / motivation for any positions;
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- time is of the essence - but still need to do things thoroughly while recognizing the time constraints
Principles
- B1 Issue of business confidentiality
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- Go through all principles
- Introduction: no comments
Security and Stability
- GAC input: Concerns of points
New IANA Governance mechanism should not exesssively burden fflexibility and mobility of Internet and should be fit and for purpose.
Realtive to curent situation
- New IANA Governance mechanism should not excessively burden flexibility and mobility of Internet and should be fit and for purpose.
- Relative to current situation
- Suggestion to change word "burden" with "impair"
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- Transition should be subject to stress testing and incremental.
Incremental not by defintion more stable.
Incremental could be taken out.
- Incremental not by definition more stable
- Incremental could be taken out
- Rationale: to be revisited
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- What does mobility and flexibility mean?
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- Flexibility and mobility are taken out., makes it more unclear.
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- Question:
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- what does objectivity in this context?
- Accountability and objectivity at current level not at level required?
- Change wording to reflect that current level needs to maintained.
- Presumption major changes. Some do and some do not.
- Objectivity and accountability sentence taken out...
What does stress test include?
What does stress test include?
Square bracket point stress testing, not agreed,
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but not taken out either
Stress test at level of principles, may overly burden the work down the road.-> hence scare bracket.
B Accountability and transparancy principle
B. Accountability and transparency principle
- GAC comment: vi. Appeals and redress
- Add independent, robust, affordable and timely.
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- Includes Kurt Pritz comment as well.
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- Concern: Appeals should not be on policy itself, but on implementation of policy
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- Not limit to implementation but also on following a process.
C Service lelvels
ii. Process should be automated: General expectation to look for automation or justify automation.
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C Service levels
- Process should be automated: General expectation to look for automation or justify automation
- Ris of micro maangement, automation were possible and needed
General remark:
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General remarks:
- Keep principles as simple as possible
- Risk of Principles getting to detailed
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- Words are not used consistently.
d Service quality
i. Predictable
Legacy ccTLD
Going back to the original text. Kurt Pritz and Paul Kane's comment are included.
Comment:
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- IANA should work on the basis of policy established by other. i. policy (process) points should not go into this section
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- Confusion created by structure of section
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Basic assumption that policy authority creates policy that can be executed, and is predictable.
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Issue if policy is to open to interpretation
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Interpetation are none not-discrimenatory
Interpretation are none not discriminatory
- Suggestion: Go back to high level
- Square bracket: nothing should be done to impact the stable operation of TLD registries post transition.
Suggestion GAC to include delgation and redelgation section to align with national
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- Suggestion GAC to include delegation and redelegation section to align with national
- If principle is kept at high level no need to include
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- Suggestion to include supplementary note
Suggestion to include supplementatry note
If delegation and redelgation were to be included, needs to be reflecte in way of role Local Internet Community and not national law/ national policies
Focus is IANA transition and not policy. Principles is not document to include policy aspects. Goal of document is to refer to policies and policy making bodies
- Suggestion is to include local polices and national legislation
- Suggestion to change structure
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ACTIONS:
- Proposal to be further discussed off-line
- Lise and Martin, to propose next version to the list later today and to be discussed further tomorrow
- CWG should be able to comment as well
Transcript
The transcript will be posted here upon receipt is available here: MeetingF2F_Session1_19Nov.doc
Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p3m54vwz6p6/
The audio recording is available here: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/8gdrz1koadai4fas20hm.mp3
Documents Presented
Project Plan - CWG-IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions_20141116
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