Page History
Attendees:
Sub-group Members: David McAuley, Erich Schweighofer, Farzaneh Badii, Finn Petersen, Freg Shatan, Griffin Barnett, Herb Waye, Jeff Neuman, Philip Corwin, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix, Seun Ojedeji, Steve DelBianco, Thiago Jardim, Wale Bakare (14)
Observers/Guests: Mark Carvell
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Meghan Healy, Nigel Hickson (4)
Apologies: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Avri Doria, Bartlett Morgan
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
...
Transcript
- Word Doc
Recording
mp3 Replay
Agenda
1. Welcome
...
4. Review of decisions and action items from last call (2 minutes)
4.1. Decisions:
4.1.1. Email Email to questionnaire respondents regarding additional statements or participation is approved.
4.2. Action Items:
4.2.1. GS GS – to send email to questionnaire respondent as decided above.
4.3. Requests
4.3.1. Participants Participants asked to include any issues they have on the issues list within the next two weeks. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zAMj3Oz8TEqbjauOyqt09Ef-1ada9TrC7i60Mk-7al4/edit#gid=0
...
Please note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call
Decisions:
- Will begin formal discussion of the issues list on the next call.
- Request ICANN Legal to present on OFAC and the fact that there is no jurisdiction in the Registry or Registrar contracts.
Action Items:
- GS – to send email to questionnaire respondent as decide above.
- GS – To request ICANN Legal to present on OFAC and the fact that there is no jurisdiction in the Registry or Registrar contracts.
Requests:
- (renewed) Participants asked to include any issues they have on the issues list within the next two weeks. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zAMj3Oz8TEqbjauOyqt09Ef-1ada9TrC7i60Mk-7al4/edit#gid=0
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (7/18/2017 07:43) Good day and welcome to Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #38 on 18 July 2017 at 13:00 UTC!
Brenda Brewer: (07:43) If you are not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). This call is recorded.
Brenda Brewer: (07:43) Reminder to all, please speak slowly and state your name before speaking for the Captioner. Thank you!
Bonnie-CART: (07:47) Good Morning! Can you please tell me who will be leading this meeting?
Brenda Brewer: (07:48) Greg Shatan is the Rapporteur.
Bonnie-CART: (07:48) Thank you very much!
Brenda Brewer: (07:48) You're welcome!
Bonnie-CART: (07:52) Yes, I can
Brenda Brewer: (07:52) Great!
David McAuley: (08:00) I am #3200
Brenda Brewer: (08:00) Thank you , David
David McAuley: (08:01) I have an intern with me, Jonatahn Peyster
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:01) hello all
Brenda Brewer: (08:02) For the record, no answer from Kavouss' dial out
Farzaneh Badii: (08:03) Hi, is the meeting in process? I can't hear anything
Brenda Brewer: (08:03) Meeting has not started yet
Farzaneh Badii: (08:03) really? am I early?
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:03) no
Brenda Brewer: (08:04) Will start momentarily
Farzaneh Badii: (08:04) I thought so. I am never early!
Nigel Hickson: (08:04) good afternoon
Wale Bakare: (08:07) Good afternoon all
Philip Corwin: (08:07) Good day all
Thiago: (08:10) next two weeks?
Herb Waye Ombuds: (08:14) sorry I'm late... :-) Hello everyone
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:15) I did flesh it out (the first one) since I was the one to present the case that introduced that issue
David McAuley: (08:18) good point Greg, some on list may turn out not to be issues
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:29) Time Check - 30 minutes left in the call
Brenda Brewer: (08:30) Anonymous has dialed in, if connected to Adobe, please identify name for attendance.
Philip Corwin: (08:31) If Anonymous provides his/her identity he/she will no longer be anonymous ;-)
Thiago: (08:31) Let him be there :)
Thiago: (08:31) the transcripts are going to be publicly available in any case, arent they?
Farzaneh Badii: (08:32) how do you know it's a "he" Thiago ...:)
Thiago: (08:32) Farzaneh. Sorry :)
Thiago: (08:32) I presumed that if "he" was a "she", she would have introduced herself
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:33) ICANN legal already commented on that particular issue actually :)
Thiago: (08:33) but nothing justifies my lapsus
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:33) however getting them to talk to us I guess it can be interesting!
Farzaneh Badii: (08:34) I agree with Thiago. we also need an independent expert
Steve DelBianco: (08:34) Greg -- please request ICANN to dicument its previous experience obtaining waivers for OFAC and other national sanctions
Farzaneh Badii: (08:35) I agree with Steve as well.
Philip Corwin: (08:36) For the record, I do not regard OFAC as a "problem", just as a fact. And my point was that many nations have sanctions regimes they impose on designated organizations and nations, so this issue would exist if ICANN was incorporated in a large number of nations.
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:36) @Steve I beleive this will be part of the request
Farzaneh Badii: (08:37) I think we have established quite well that other countries have sanctions in place. But ICANN is located in the US and its sanctions can affect people in non-SDN list. so we need to address the issues
Thiago: (08:39) Sure, thank you.
Farzaneh Badii: (08:40) registered offices in other locations I believe
Philip Corwin: (08:41) I look forward to a full and informed discussions of how, if at all, OFAC prevents certain individuals, companies, and nations from participation in core ICANN activities. I believe that is the relevant issue for this group, and not whether any nation's sanctions regime is sound policy.
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:41) Thiago is that a new hand?
Thiago: (08:41) Old and gone
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:41) thanks
Thiago: (08:41) thank you
Farzaneh Badii: (08:42) yes phil we are not talking about whether OFAC is good or bad.
Farzaneh Badii: (08:42) also it's not only about participation in ICANN policy it's about transactions with ICANN and contractual relations with ICANN
Thiago: (08:42) A question related to OFAC is how this fact affects ICANN activities
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:47) Time Check - 13 minutes left in call
Jeff Neuman: (08:49) I certainly know about that case :)
Farzaneh Badii: (08:49) smiley vs ICANN?
Jeff Neuman: (08:50) Yes
Farzaneh Badii: (08:50) Jeff you got yourself into this
Jeff Neuman: (08:50) I got myself into that case as well
Philip Corwin: (08:51) @Thiago--agreed on the central OFAC question
Seun: (08:51) Yeah thanks for calling for issues
David McAuley: (08:52) Hopefully the Smiley case has something to do with emoji
Jeff Neuman: (08:52) UNfortunately not....it deals with lotteries
Farzaneh Badii: (08:52) we have been listing those OFAC issues for the past 10 days, would be nice if others could also add to the list if they know of issues
Farzaneh Badii: (08:53) thanks all
Herb Waye Ombuds: (08:53) bye everyone
Farzaneh Badii: (08:53) good bye
Seun: (08:53) Thanks and bye
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:53) thanks all - goodbye
David McAuley: (08:53) Thanks all, bye
Philip Corwin: (08:53) Bye all
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:53) bye
Thiago: (08:53) bye
