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Attendees:
Sub-Group Members: Donna Austin, Kurt Pritz, Martin Boyle, Sarah Falvey, Staffan Jonson, Stephanie Duchesneau
Staff: Bart Boswinkel, Bernie Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Grace Abuhamad
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
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Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4pufnglhit/
The audio recording is available here:
Proposed Agenda:
Notes
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Brenda Brewer: (5/8/2015 08:32) Good Day and Welcome to the DT-C Meeting on 8 May at 14:00 UTC.
Martin Boyle: (08:51) Hi all!
Bart Boswinkel: (08:52) Hi Martin
Martin Boyle: (08:53) Hi Bart: all well?
Bart Boswinkel: (08:54) Yes thank you , and with you?
Martin Boyle: (08:54) Sort of
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (08:55) Morning Martin
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (08:56) and to you to Brenda
Brenda Brewer: (08:56) HI all!
Martin Boyle: (08:56) How come Bart rang me? And then the line dropped...
Bart Boswinkel: (08:57) The document is scollable for all
Martin Boyle: (08:57) OK: he just rang me again
Martin Boyle: (08:57) Hope it doesn't keep crashing like that...
Bart Boswinkel: (08:57) Strange
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (08:57) thanks
Bart Boswinkel: (08:58) I had no intention to call you
Bart Boswinkel: (08:58) (nor anybody else;-)
Martin Boyle: (08:58) No, I think it was the call out
Brenda Brewer: (08:59) It is our audio vendor operator calling you Martin. Not sure why your line dropped. He will keep an eye on your line and call you if you become disconnected again.
Martin Boyle: (08:59) but I never heard the operator
Grace Abuhamad: (08:59) they have a recording of Bart's voice :)
Martin Boyle: (08:59) just suddenlt Bart's dulcit tones
Martin Boyle: (08:59) Ah-he's famous!
Bart Boswinkel: (09:00) Fortunat efor you I uses my "nice" voice
Martin Boyle: (09:00) sorry Donna? what did you just say?
Sarah Falvey - RySG: (09:01) I am only going to be on adobe connect today
Staffan Jonson: (09:01) Hello all
Martin Boyle: (09:01) can now
Martin Boyle: (09:02) he's not joking
Martin Boyle: (09:03) yup
Kurt: (09:12) To make the process simpler – the CSC can put out an request for expressions of interest to arpa, .edu, .gov , etc. Then the CSC can evaluate the expressions of interest and send to the RySG and ccNSO for ratification
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:13) would you need both to approve all recommendations
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:13) ?
Kurt: (09:15) if there are more than one expression - take the expressions of interest and rotate them through one-year terms
Stephanie Duchesneau: (09:16) just joined
Stephanie Duchesneau: (09:16) sorry to be late
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:18) @Bart +1
Martin Boyle: (09:18) Agree Donna as amended by Bart
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:22) Yes, as amended by Bart, for me to
Kurt: (09:22) The work of IANA will go on regardless of whether the CSC is fully staffed -
Kurt: (09:23) I would get to the ccNSO and GNSO agree to a one month replacement cycle - even if not enforceable, I think the organizations will try to live up to that commitment
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:23) Agree with this reasoning
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:24) +1
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:25) +1
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:25) Yes, reasonable
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:25) old hand
Kurt: (09:26) They could have a replacement in waiting
Kurt: (09:26) then it would happen overnight
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:26) Had the same thought as Kurt
Martin Boyle: (09:27) because this is such an attractive role
Kurt: (09:27) if Miss America cannot carry out her term....
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:27) me to, a standby is a reasonable solution
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:27) If they are going through the process of selecting one why not at the same time select
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:28) Just a suggestion
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:28) 14: decided preferrably within the five of CSC
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:28) does not need to modify the chartrer now
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:29) old hand
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:31) @Staffan +1
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:32) I believe tehcnical skills and experience will decide what member to send to IFR
Stephanie Duchesneau: (09:32) that sounds right to me donna
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:33) yup
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:34) 15: yes agree as well
Stephanie Duchesneau: (09:35) +1
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:35) +1
Martin Boyle: (09:35) yep
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:35) yes
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:36) yes
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:38) @MB +1
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (09:40) +1
Kurt: (09:43) third party beneficiary?
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:44) Exactly! So is CSC internal to ICANN or Not?
Staffan Jonson 2: (09:45) CSC and PTI need to have an independent from ICANN role
Kurt: (09:48) maybe the way to go about it is - for this group to decide what it want in terms of accountability on the part if IANA and ICANN and let the lawyers figure it out
Kurt: (09:48) IANA has a duty to perform to its custoemers
Kurt: (09:49) our job here is to figure out what we want and let the lawyers figure out hot to accomplish that
Martin Boyle: (09:49) and so that is organisational - which is fine. So long as CSC does not get a direct say in enforcement
Martin Boyle: (09:51) and ccNSO and RySG, too, Donna
Martin Boyle: (09:51) And this is a process discussion
Kurt: (09:54) On 21 - I think an IRP takes too long
Kurt: (09:55) On 22: a systemic problem should be defined by x number of uncured faults: the number to be determined by a negtiation between ICANN and the CSC
Kurt: (09:55) it should be as objective as possible
Martin Boyle: (09:58) @Kurt: too detailed
Martin Boyle: (09:58) uncured trivial faults
Martin Boyle: (09:59) Unresolved tough cctld re-delegations
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (10:03) +1
Staffan Jonson: (10:05) Yes Martin. Thank You . Defining systemic problem etc. is a way forward...
Kurt: (10:06) @ Martin - the process could take into account trivial breaches - it can be thought out - if there isn't an objective standard the process will become political rather than performance driven
Staffan Jonson: (10:06) Definitions are fur us to understand what we mean. Afterwards, CSC should be given discretion.
Kurt: (10:06) can also take into account long redelegation processes
Martin Boyle: (10:08) But I do not like something as clear as that.
Kurt: (10:08) We can use the Milton Mueller standard: things are not so great, it MAY be time to change providers, let's have an RFP.
Martin Boyle: (10:08) A lot of this will be subjective
Martin Boyle: (10:08) And needs to be seen as impact on customers
Martin Boyle: (10:10) Yay!
Stephanie Duchesneau: (10:10) so happy!
Staffan Jonson: (10:10) Of course!
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (10:10) ecstatic
Bernard Turcotte - staff support: (10:11) bye all
Staffan Jonson: (10:11) Thank You all
Martin Boyle: (10:11) Great, thanks
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