The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday 04 November 2015 at 1500 UTC (07:00 PST, 10:00 EST, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET).

Please be aware that the clocks will have changed in some parts of the world, and in others not yet, so refer to the other times link below to ensure you join the meeting at the correct time. UTC time has been adjusted.

Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled:



  1. Roll call/updates to SOI
  2. Discuss proposed new language for de-accreditation
  3. Continue discussion of further changes to the Illustrative Disclosure Framework
  4. AOB / next steps


Documents for Review:

Proposed text for de-accreditation recommendations (2 Nov)

Revised Illustrative Disclosure Framework for IP Rights - Draft - 2 Nov


MP3 Recording:


Meeting Transcript:



Alex Deacon - IPC

Darcy Southwell – RrSG

David Hughes - IPC

Don Blumenthal - RySG

Frank Michlick - Individual

Graeme Bunton - RrSG

Griffin Barnett - IPC

James Bladel - RrSG

James Gannon - NCUC

Kathy Kleiman - NCSG

Lindsay Hamilton-Reid - RrSG

Paul McGrady - IPC

Phil Corwin – BC

Sara Bockey - RrSG

Sarah Wyld – RrSG

Stephanie Perrin – NCSG

Steve Metalitz – IPC

Susan Kawaguchi - BC

Terri Stumme - BC

Todd Williams - IPC

Vicky Sheckler - IPC

Volker Greimann - RrSG



Holly Raiche - ALAC

Michele Neylon – RrSG

Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC


ICANN staff:

Mary Wong

Gisella Gruber

 Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 3 November 2015

  Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the PPSAI WG call on the 3rd November 2015 at 1500 UTC

  Graeme Bunton:Meeting room is muted, and computer audio is yet to be enabled.

  Mary Wong:@Graeme, is audio/mic not working for you?

  Gisella Gruber:Good morning/afternoon to all

  Gisella Gruber:Audio has been enabled

  James Bladel:Awesome thanks.  That was my cheerful mic-check. :)

  Graeme Bunton:I'm hearing some rustley typing sounds

  Kathy:Gisella should be a Hollywood announcer

  Gisella Gruber:Darcy Southwell has joined the call

  James Bladel:Steve is a bit faint for me. Anyone else?

  Mary Wong:@Steve, the revised agenda is in the right hand side notes pod.

  Gisella Gruber:@ James - good audio for me

  James Bladel:ok.  if it persists, I'll reconnect.

  Stephanie Perrin:Was faint for me as well James. ok now.  

  James Bladel:Agree, better now.

  Gisella Gruber:Paul McGrady has joined the call 

  Kathy:Is an unaffiliated provider also an unaccredited provider?

  Graeme Bunton:My understanding is no, Kathy. Accredited but unaffiliated


  Kathy:I think this addresses very important issues - just want to check it more closely. Tx to drafters!

  Mary Wong:"Affiliated" per the 2013 RAA is defined as ""Affiliate" means a person or entity that, directly or indirectly, through one or more intermediaries, Controls, is controlled by, or is under common control with, the person or entity specified."

  Kathy:Tx Mary, can we include that in the document?

  Mary Wong:@Kathy, I'll check but I believe that is (or at least was) in the Initial Report and so should have been retained in the draft Final Report.


  steve metalitz:Section III is on page 7 of the document on your screen

  Gisella Gruber:Bruce McDonald has joined the call

  Gisella Gruber:Welcome Don!

  James Bladel:Ok thanks, Todd.

  Gisella Gruber:James Gannon joined the call

  Mary Wong:@Kathy, does "your domicile" in Option 2 mean the place of incorporation for corporate entities? Also, should it be "or" rather than "and" for the jurisdiction?

  James Bladel:Good point, Steve.  Our sevice agreements use AZ jurisdiction, but we have since reincorporated in Delaware.

  Graeme Bunton:Tucows, the Registrar, is Canadian and located in Toronto.

  Mary Wong:For clarity, UDRP rules indicate either "principal office" of registrar or RNH's address as shown in WHOIS - does that help?

  Graeme Bunton:That seems sensible, James

  Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ todd

  Vicky Sheckler:disagree w/ kathy.  

  James Gannon:Agree with Kathy here

  Mary Wong:This raises conflict of laws issues - in Steve's example, would the Panama courts accept jurisdiction, and what law (choice of law) would apply to the dispute?

  James Gannon:I share James's concerns and would like to see something similar.

  Gisella Gruber:Alex Deacon has joined the call

  Stephanie Perrin:I agree with the need to see it all put together....

  James Gannon:And before its noted I think we need to assess this prior to the irt stage


  James Bladel:Maybe one question would be: Does anyone have any objections to asking Staff to conduct this analysis now or in the very near future?

  James Gannon:No objcetion from me

  Kathy:Steve: can you recirculate this document? 

  Kathy:on the list/

  Graeme Bunton:Of course, Kathy

  Kathy:Tx Graeme!

  Mary Wong:Per Steve's comment - yes, we have only addressed those points that seem policy-related; some feedback concern specific implementation details that probably don't fit in a policy document.

  Paul McGrady:Thanks!!

  James Bladel:Thanks.



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