Transcript of Adobe Connect Chat during NCSG Meeting - ICANN #47 Preparation Meeting
AC Chat NCSG call 2nd July 2013
Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the NCSG call on the 2nd July 2013
Marc Perkel:hello - this is new to me
Marc Perkel:I will be going to Durban in Wendy's place
Robin Gross:Link to NCSG Meetings in Durban Planning Document:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dEN6SHM2U2VZalQ4MXMzNWtneWJrWnc&usp=sharing
Marc Perkel:Should I phone in too?
Robin Gross:no need to phone in if you are using audio on Adobe Connect.
Robin Gross:or if don't want audio, just typ in chat here
Marc Perkel:That's what I thought
Bill Drake:HI all
Robin Gross:hiya
Bill Drake:where be our councilors?
Marie-laure lemineur:hi all
Kathy:I entered too! Kathy Kleiman
Nathalie Peregrine:Thanks Kathy! Noted!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'll be there with other hat(s) on
Anthony:hi all
Mari:Hi, Maria here. just dialled in.
Mari:via adobe, so not 100% sure I"ll be able to speak = will type if needs be.
Nathalie Peregrine:Joy Liddicoat has joined the call
Nathalie Peregrine:Avri Doria has also joined the call
Kathy:Lots of people going to Durban, great!
Kathy:I'll be participating remotely...
Avri Doria:I am going on atrt's
Avri Doria:.....Behalf but have some for NC
Marc Perkel:New blood - fresh legs - that's me! :)
Avri Doria: For new blood - Yay
Nathalie Peregrine:Wendy Seltzer has joined the call
Mari:Hi robin / bill , I can't guarantee I can remote participate in the council calls so I will need a proxy.
Marc Perkel:9:00 am
Marc Perkel:3 pm - 6 = 9 am
Mari:thanks, bill! I can't talk into adobe connect - weird issue I've not resolved.
Mari:alternate is fine for me too
Mari:Just spotted that my handle in this chat is mistyped, my bad. This is Maria Farrell here!
Robin Gross:Link to NCSG Meetings in Durban Planning Document:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dEN6SHM2U2VZalQ4MXMzNWtneWJrWnc&usp=sharing
Bill Drake:I nominate Joy
Kathy:Great idea to hold the Policy Committee meeting at a different time than opening ceremonies.
Kathy:FWIW, the opening ceremonies have gotten much more interesting, with Fadi sharing a lot of new systems and issues at them.
Bill Drake:they won't program anything against the main room on Monday anymore, somewhat constraining given the loss of Friday
Kathy:Robin, will we have remote participation at the Policy Committee mtg on Sunday?
Kathy:If so, I'll participate....
Bill Drake:Robin you echo a lot, maybe use earplugs?
Bill Drake:I actually agree, sorry to say
Marc Perkel:Robin's echo sound more like an electronic artifact and not acustical
Nathalie Peregrine:Please all mute your AC room microphones as the echo is being caused by the AC audio
Joy Liddicoat:I agree Bill
Marc Perkel:Headphones would likely help
Bill Drake:If we are alone let's drop it and move on
Mari:on the council side, jeff still has a draft resolution calling for a bylaw change to make board meet gnso if board decides not to follow gnso advice, similar to gac status.
Bill Drake:Yes David spoke of his Fadi discussion but I've not heard more from him
Mari:I think we should vote in favour of that if it comes up in durban, and resist plans by other groups to say they've not had enough time to discuss. i.e. delay and obfuscate
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Fee Waivers are welll worth pushing IMO
Bill Drake:I agree with Joy, and would add, what are the other conversations we want to have
Joy Liddicoat:i really can't see how this is connected to outreach and how more outreach would have chnaged this?
Joy Liddicoat:zero time imho
Marie-laure lemineur:so the strategy would be to hear the views/ ideas of the board about the gnso reform and use it as a base to start thinking about it outself?
wseltzer:I'm concerned about the extent to which ICANN is setting itself a larger regulatory role
Joy Liddicoat:yes and less a coordinating role
Bill Drake:So Wendy you don't agree with ALAC folks that ICANN needs to "embrace its inner regulator"?
Marc Perkel:YES!
Marc Perkel:Agree with Wendy
Marc Perkel:That's an issue I'm very interested in
Marie-laure lemineur:that wouls
Marie-laure lemineur:would be an interesting topic for a workshop....
Marc Perkel:me too
Marc Perkel:I would add the comercial people like Goog APL and MS don't want NSA inside them either
Joy Liddicoat:has ICANN been asked to assure that its own network infrastructure is not under surveillance?
Marc Perkel:How do we know ICANN isn't compromised by a national security letter?
Marc Perkel:Maybe we can do someting preventive with regard to NSA?
wseltzer:/me regrets I need to leave the call
Marc Perkel:Agree with Wendy
wseltzer:I don't see why a centralized service with non-authoritative data is better than a distributed system
wseltzer:and I don't see good privacy protection
Marc Perkel:What country would be acceptable?
olevie:hi
olevie::-)
Marc Perkel:Maybe we can get Snowdem and Asauge to design i for us?
Joy Liddicoat:I haven;t read it sorry
Marie-laure lemineur:i am starting to read it...
Kathy:Germany!
Kathy:France!
Marc Perkel:Is there any way to not trust a single country?
Bill Drake:Switzerland is waiting for a call
Marc Perkel:Suppose it to 3 countries to agree in order to get at the data?
Marie-laure lemineur:brussels?
olevie:Togo :-)
Marie-laure lemineur:robin this is a good point!
Kathy:Marie-laure- what about the Council of Europe?
Kathy:It seems tohave both a human rights record and a law enforcement record?
Marie-laure lemineur:at first sight sounds a good idea....the human rights keepers and have a larger geo scope that the EU...worth exploring the idea..
Kathy:Marie-laure, also, before we leave Whois, what would you like the SG to do in terms of the Thick Whois Interim Report?
Avri Doria:Coe is treaty based. Could work.
Marie-laure lemineur:@kathy i have this on my to-do list before flying nexr week. i am preparing a response to your questions via email. hope te send it by next thursday latest
Marc Perkel:I think Wendy is gone
wseltzer:not on the phone
Kathy:@Marie-Laure, great, tx you! Also, please let me know what meetings you would like me (and others) to attend remotely.
Kathy:With your notes and guidance, we can hopefully provide support in comments, chat rooms and comment time.
Kathy:sorry -- written comments and oral comments
Marie-laure lemineur:sure Kathy..we will definitely need your guidance! you are our major whois expert!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'm sure ALAC would be very supportive
Kathy:Great! Tx you both.
Kathy:All, I have to run ... safe travels all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:byw
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye
Marc Perkel:I'm going to assume there will be a lot of NSA PRISM discussion there
Joy Liddicoat:i am happy to withdraw :-)
Joy Liddicoat:i do not have any new ones
olevie:I'll have a lot to learn as ICANN fellow. Great !
olevie:bye bye
Joy Liddicoat:is that our NCSG dog ;-)?
Bill Drake:NCSG needs a mascot
Marc Perkel:Often one has more influence than one can easily count
Marie-laure lemineur:@bill how as a follow up to the igf activity how about writing a paper/article and publish it ?
Marc Perkel:Yes - we can influence the philosophy of ICANN
Bill Drake:I'm not well positioned from a scholarly standpoint to write about this, but in another context reporting and assessment would be useful
Marc Perkel:I'm generally available to assist as needed there
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good thanks
Bill Drake:And I think ICANN has some interest in cultivating
Bill Drake:woo hoo
Marc Perkel:Thank you Robin
Joy Liddicoat:thanks robin = you are a great chair :-)
Bill Drake:buh bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye thanks all see some of you in Durban
Marie-laure lemineur:thks Robin and all
