Members: Stephen Deerhake, Eberhard Lisse, Sean Copeland, Danko Jevtovic, Mirjana Tasic, Svitlana Tkachenko, Allan MacGillivray, Allyssa Moore, Patricio Poblete, Nick Wenban-Smith, Barrack Otieno (audio only), Nigel Roberts, Brent Carey, Ann-Cathrin Marcussen,
Participants: Mikhaylov Vadim
Observers and experts: Jaap Akkerhuis, Kim Davis, Naela Sarras,
Staff: Bart Boswinkel, Bernie Turcotte, Kim Carlson
Apologies: Peter Koch
Agenda:
1. Welcome
2. Administrative Announcements and Action Items (if any)
• Action Item - Staff to produce first draft
3. Review Draft Report (Draft will be circulated on Tuesday. Please review prior to Thursday’s call)
4. Next Steps Leading to Kobe
5. AOB
6. Next Meetings
Documents:
Recordings: AC
Transcript: EN
Chat Transcript:
Kimberly Carlson:Hello, welcome to today's ccPDP on Retirement Working group call on 31 January at 17:00 UTC
Bernard Turcotte:hello all
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello all
Joke Braeken:hello everyone
Bernard Turcotte:so -27C here with howling wind driving snow into a blinding fog
Svitlana Tkachenko:Hello!
Joke Braeken:that is really cold! Here we just have a little bit of snow.
Allan MacGillivray:Hey!
Patricio Poblete:Hi everone!
Patricio Poblete:It is 33C here in Santiago
Bernard Turcotte:so just as bad
Bernard Turcotte:;-)
el:39 here during the day
Nigel Roberts:Greetings from England
Bernard Turcotte:@el - hope its a dry heat
Joke Braeken:I am taking notes Eberhard
Stephen Deerhake:Thnk you Joke!
Stephen Deerhake:Thank not Thnk!
Joke Braeken::) you're welcome
Nigel Roberts:I mention it not as a correction for the first page, but as a request for general style throughout .. hope that’s clear
Stephen Deerhake:It is, and noted. This is VERY preliminary and you'll see changes with respect to style going forward.
Nigel Roberts:In fact that;s exactly what you do on line 14
Patricio Poblete:I agree that we should spell out acronyms when they are first used, as in "FOI", except in cases like "Request for Comment", where I would not spell it out, because the acronym has evolved way past its literal meaning.
Nigel Roberts:+1 with Patricio
Patricio Poblete:Not *all* of them, Benie
Patricio Poblete:Bernie
Patricio Poblete:"The ccTLS is managed by a funcational Manager" --> "The ccTLD manager is unable to perform its duties"
Nigel Roberts:Patricio is going in the direction I had in mind. (Hadn’t got specific words myself)
Stephen Deerhake:Nice wording Patricio.
el:Kimm, please not that section 5 be 4.1
Nigel Roberts:I have a question. Does this need to be confirmed by the ICANN Board, in the same way as a new delegateion? This would serve as the public notice too, perhaps?
Kim Davies:I think IANA's process for being apprised of changes is probably highly specific for this document (+1 to what Eberhard says)
Danko Jevtović:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui_-23search_code_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=CVGsk6XdGafZBfZ1EFa1IYhNK86f0kOdbphsV47gwys&s=BOCjVACZp3am0wCcYzxusQ0-_2FUtEOuNI5XZRMYQc8&e=
Nigel Roberts:is that all off??
Nigel Roberts:whew i am struggling with this adobe
Kimberly Carlson:@Nigel, I am happy to dial out to you
Nigel Roberts:Thanks Kim, but this time it’s no problems with the audio, just with the user interface on Adobe for iPad
Kimberly Carlson:Ah, ok.
Nigel Roberts:Agree with Peter
Stephen Deerhake:NIgel is bleeding edge to be using AC on an iPad... ;-)
Nigel Roberts:Hint: Zoom works extremely well on it
el:I will make the watermark much lighter in the next iteration
Danko Jevtović:Nigle lives dangerously!
Nigel Roberts:there’s another case on foot
Nigel Roberts:Swaziland
Danko Jevtović:Hopefully FYRM-Macedonian cc will not change (I am thinking for the benefit of users).
Danko Jevtović:But El has a point, we dont know
Nigel Roberts:If I were to guess, they would keep the existing two letter code.
Nigel Roberts:But I know SZ is actually looking to change the code
Nigel Roberts:Or at least may be thinking in that direction
Nigel Roberts:NOt necessarily
Nigel Roberts:LInk rot is also a big issue with internet resources
Nick Wenban-Smith:ok tx Bernard
brent:minimum can we also include handling disputes?
Kim Davies:Probably would be less specific, would want something more than just a singular date, perhaps "A communication plan, such as when and how all significantly interested parties are fully informed." (for line 74)
Stephen Deerhake:Nice way of putting it Kim.
Nigel Roberts:Agree with Kim
Svitlana Tkachenko:Agree with Kim, it's more clear
el:Kim please not the bullet indentation on line 90
Nigel Roberts:Nicely timed discussion
Allan MacGillivray:actual timing of next meeting?
Kimberly Carlson:Next call: 14 February at 23:00 UTC. Calendar invites to follow
Kimberly Carlson:letter has been published here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ccnso.icann.org_en_about_statements.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=CVGsk6XdGafZBfZ1EFa1IYhNK86f0kOdbphsV47gwys&s=nFIidTugvnTwKSK2ONvHjxHmY9NLFMGgbyFvzRJVbzY&e=
Kimberly Carlson:Correct, yes
Nick Wenban-Smith:nothing says romance like an 11pm conf call on Valentines day!
Allan MacGillivray:Oh yeah, 4:00 AM is more romantic
Svitlana Tkachenko:Nick :)
Nick Wenban-Smith:thanks, good call
Bernard Turcotte:bye all
Nick Wenban-Smith:night all
Danko Jevtović:My apologies for 14.2, I will be traveling
Nigel Roberts:Congrats on the progress
Danko Jevtović:very good progress
Kimberly Carlson:Thank you everyone, bye
Kim Davies:Cheers
Danko Jevtović:thanks!
brent:thanks all
Bart Boswinkel:Bye all
Joke Braeken:thank you all. Goodbye!
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye all
Sean Copeland:bye all
jaap akkerhuis:Bye bye!
Mikhaylov Vadim:good bye
Patricio Poblete:bye everyone
