Members:  Nigel Roberts, Eberhard Lisse, Martin Boyle, Svitlana Tkachenko, Allan MacGillivray, Stephen Deerhake, Peter Koch, Patricio Poblete, Barrack Otieno, Debbie Monahan

Participants: Marita Moll

Observers and experts:  Naela Sarras, Elise Gerich, Jaap Akkerhuis

Staff:  Bart Boswinkel, Kim Carlson

Apologies:  Nick Wenban-Smith, Michele Neylon, Kim Davies, Annebeth Lange, Mirjana Tasic, Abibu Ntahigiye, Danko Jevtovic, Barbara Povše, Elise Gerich (late), Maureen Hilyard


  1. Welcome and roll call
  2.  Update action items
    • Availability ISO 3166 – 1 (2013)
    • F-2-F Meeting(s) ICANN 60
    • Scheduling presentation on ISO 3166 during the ccNSO meeting days 3.
  3.  Second reading internal rules of engagement (Eberhard to lead)
  4.  PTI issues with ccTLD no longer listed as country 
    • Transfers, no identifiable SIP, other
    • Current practices with respect to retirement
  5.  Topic list and working method
  6.  Next meeting
  7.  AOB
  8.  Adjourn



Transcript: EN

Chat transcript:

Kimberly Carlson:Welcome to today's ccPDP Working Group on Retirement call on 17 August
el:hi, I'll dial in juest now over the bridg
Kimberly Carlson:Ok, let us know if you require a dial out
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome all
Svitlana Tkachenko:Hello!
Bart Boswinkel:Hi All
Patricio Poblete:Hi everyone!
Stephen Deerhake:Excellent. Hi Bart.
Stephen Deerhake:Peter you have an echo...
Stephen Deerhake:Bart also has an echo...
Kimberly Carlson:Please mute your mics when not speaking
Stephen Deerhake:Evening Kim.
Kimberly Carlson:Hello all
Bart Boswinkel:In future all documents presented in the Adobe will be scrollable, unless indicated otherwise
Barrack Otieno AFTLD:Good morning
el:am having dialup issues
el:working on it
Kimberly Carlson:happy to dial out
el:am using SIP, let's try this later
Stephen Deerhake:Understood Bart regarding ISO-3166. Thank you Jaap for getting that sorted.
Debbie Monahan:sorry I'm a bit late
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome Debbie
Stephen Deerhake:Yes,. You are in the same room.
Barrack Otieno AFTLD:Is support the idea of every member having the ISO Standard
el:ok fine
el:As long as ISO MA is fine with this it's ok
Stephen Deerhake:+1 for Nigel's proposal regarding time mangement.
el:I don't care as long as we stop when planned, because it will interfer with my day job otherwise.
el:If I know a week in andvance I can make arrangements.
Kimberly Carlson:Thursday, block 3 - confirmed. Will have remote participation available
el:I assume this is similar for some others
Nigel:We shall hardstop at 89.9 minutes so you can plan with certainty.
Nigel:Will aim for soft windup by T60
Barrack Otieno:Clear
el:Michele is on gnso Council
jaap akkerhuis:Pleaselet me know when ASAP, so I put it i my slchadule early
Kimberly Carlson:doc is scrollable
Barrack Otieno:Loud and Clear
Barrack Otieno:Ok from me
Barrack Otieno:ok for me
Stephen Deerhake:Good
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome Elise
Elise Gerich:Thank you. Sorry - my flight was late.
Barrack Otieno:ok for me
Stephen Deerhake:Looks good to me (8 and 9)
el:I would prefer another reading but it's for the group to decide
Patricio Poblete:I would agree that this reading is sufficient, but this does point out the need to be more explicit about the quorum necessary for a reading to count
Stephen Deerhake:Patricio, can you elaborate on your quorum concerns?
el:I think the quorum is covered by the Chairs' decision whether to cancel a meeting formapologies of not.
Stephen Deerhake:El, that is what I thought as well...
el:And, if in doubt read once more
Nigel:may we have the agenda back please?
el:Anything controversial or important should be ge the benfit of the doubt
Patricio Poblete:If the Chaor cancels the meeting, obviously there is no reading. But if the meeting is not cancelled, then it should count. So there should not be a !one a a half" reading, ever.
Patricio Poblete:(excuse the typos)
el:I think Martin's suggestion is helpful, we can prepare documents internally and when changes are porposed on the list we'll readline those.
el:Patricio, I think you are to formalistic about this. If in doubt read it again :-)-O
Patricio Poblete:Agree with Nigel :-)
Stephen Deerhake:What time again Bart?
Patricio Poblete:Dreadful time :-)
Stephen Deerhake:Patricio, I agree... It's our turn to suffer ;-)
Barrack Otieno::-)
Debbie Monahan:I like this approach of sharing the pain
Allan MacGillivray:Good evening, good morning to all.
Elise Gerich:Bye everyone
Kimberly Carlson:Thank you, bye
Debbie Monahan:great, thanks
Barrack Otieno:Thank you, 3.47 am will catch some more sleep, good day everyone
Barrack Otieno:bye
Patricio Poblete:Good night!
el:I'll send in a final version of the rules
jaap akkerhuis:bye all
Svitlana Tkachenko:bye
Stephen Deerhake:Bye all.
Bart Boswinkel:Bye all
Patricio Poblete:Yes, Debbie :-)

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