Scenario change of name version 1.docx

Attendees:

Members:  Nigel Roberts, Peter Koch, Debbie Monahan, Stephen Deerhake, Nick Wenban-Smith, Allan MacGillivray, Svitlana Tkachenko, Patrico Poblete, Barrack Otieno

Participants: Maureen Hilyard, Nenad Orlic

Observers and experts:  Kim Davies

Staff:  Bart Boswinkel, Kim Carlson

Apologies:  Peter Van Roste, Michele Neylon, Annebeth Lange, Barbara Povše, Mirjana Tasić, Eberhard Lisse, Jaap Akkerhuis, Peter Vergote, Abibu Ntahigiye

Agenda:

  1.  Welcome & roll call
  2. Action items
    1. Action 31 Aug -02: ISO 3166 standard for membership WG (ongoing)
    2. Action 28 September: update glossary document (see item 5)
    3. Initial analysis change of name scenario (see item 6)
  3. Overview transitions of two letter codes
  4. Work plan discussion: what are next steps?: Second reading: Approaches and overall method
  5. Glossary / Terminology document update
  6. Change of name scenario: first analysis
  7. AOB
  8. Next meeting
  9. Closure

Documents:

Recordings:

Transcript:  EN

Chat Transcript:

Kimberly Carlson:Welcome to today's ccPDP on Retirement Working Group on 12 October at 23:59 UTC
Nigel Roberts:Hi all
Bart Boswinkel:Hi All
Kim Davies:hello
Kimberly Carlson:Hi everyone
Martin Boyle:Hello!
Debbie Monahan:Hi all
Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet:hi
Maureen Hilyard:Hi everyone
Stephen Deerhake:Hi Maureen. What time is it out your way?
Stephen Deerhake:Good afternoon Debbie.
Debbie Monahan:Afternoon, this is good for us which is why Nigel is struggling to get others :)
Maureen Hilyard:Hi Stephen.. Im in Auckland .. lunchtime.. great
Allan MacGillivray (.ca):Hello Nigel, and others.
Stephen Deerhake:Greetings, Allan.
Nenad Orlić:HI all
Svitlana Tkachenko:Good morning!
Patrici Pobleteo:Good afternoon!
Patrici Pobleteo:(it's Patricio Poblete, sorry for the typo)
Nenad Orlić:Maybe we should note somwhere if any of those cc were never included in dns zones
Stephen Deerhake:I just want to thank you for your work in producing this document. It's quite interesting.
Nenad Orlić:i think that .cs was ever delegated
Nenad Orlić:and i think it was not in dns also
Nenad Orlić:ok
Nenad Orlić:no sound?
Kimberly Carlson:Barrack is on phone only
Nigel Roberts:Thanks Kim, I'll make sure we give opporunity for intervention
Peter Koch (DE):CS first appeared in the June 1991 RIPE hostcount <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ripe.net_publications_docs_ripe-2D038&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=4lgM7QEg08-vPanqGRVwDWmXPK4P54ca3QO96PSHmAs&s=XxHOc23vqUgUzQZ8u7N3CbjHNBYAkS6AGDoAnW2ZNo0&e=>, albeit with zero hosts
Stephen Deerhake:1st Reading OK by me.
Stephen Deerhake:Brain Fart on my part. ;-)
Peter Koch (DE):I still believe we need clarification from ISO and/or the 3166/MA re: the internal states of the 'reservations', even more so as they are available through the online browsing platform
Stephen Deerhake:thank you Bart.
Stephen Deerhake:Very nice piece of work, Bart.
Peter Koch (DE):yes, bart, thanks; however, the 'list of reserved code elements' is separate from the '3166-1 code list' as per 7.5.6
Kim Davies:+1
Kim Davies:The reason AN is presented differently to say YU/TP is simply because our RZMS had different support for deleting TLDs depending on when those were removed from the root
Kim Davies:It is not intended to be a distinction
Nigel Roberts:Looka likw I lose all audio
Nigel Roberts:Back
Kim Davies:These all predate the FOI
Bart Boswinkel:@Peter
Bart Boswinkel:Agree , hence I will include it as a separate entry
Bart Boswinkel:under the term
Peter Koch (DE):@bart, ack, tnx
Nigel Roberts:Sorry I lost audio again. Am back again.
Barrack Otieno:No questions from me all clear Bart, thank you
Nick Wenban-Smith:very minor, but it looks like 3166 code refers to 'unassigned' not 'un-assigned'
Stephen Deerhake:At the end of the day, a common understanding of the vocabulary is paramount.
Barrack Otieno:Hey Nick, does the hyphen have introduce a significant difference?, sorry for my dumb question :-)
Bart Boswinkel:@ Nick
Bart Boswinkel:yes
Bart Boswinkel:that is terminology used
Barrack Otieno:great, thanks for that
Peter Koch (DE):@Nick: i find neither 'unassigned' nor un-assigned' in the standard
Bart Boswinkel:it is spelling errot of MS
Bart Boswinkel:@peter it is defined in the OBP
Nick Wenban-Smith:@peter I will send you the reference :)
Peter Koch (DE):@bart: which again raises the question of the formal nature of the OBP ;-)
Stephen Deerhake:Excuse my ignorance, but what does "OBP" refer to?
Stephen Deerhake:Ah!
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you again Bart for that clarification.
Peter Koch (DE):<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui_-23search&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=4lgM7QEg08-vPanqGRVwDWmXPK4P54ca3QO96PSHmAs&s=eCWG_1qilnJPB0r1hZxfuEhy0t3krL00Cu9KwNocCb8&e=>
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you Peter.
Martin Boyle:revocation is the term in FoI
Kim Davies:I think it would be fair to say informal dialogue started with the current operator once the code changed status, just to find out what their plans and thoughts are
Stephen Deerhake:Very helpful, thank you Bart.
Kim Davies:OBP sends email announcements to subscribers to the standard
Kim Davies:Yes :)
Barrack Otieno:Very helpfull thank you
Stephen Deerhake:Kim, I appreciate your viewpoint on this...
Martin Boyle:@Kim: that is definitely a better way of putting it! My concern was wording that looked like horse-trading was the approach, whereas your statement was rather more cooperative
Stephen Deerhake:None from me.
Barrack Otieno:None from me
Stephen Deerhake:Vote for 8hr rotation, but we can sort it out at the F2F...
Stephen Deerhake:Bye all.
Kim Davies:cheers
Patrici Pobleteo:Good night!
Kimberly Carlson:Thank you all, bye
Nick Wenban-Smith:bye
Patrici Pobleteo:bye
Debbie Monahan:bye
Barrack Otieno:Thank you Chair, bye all
Maureen Hilyard:Thanks and bye
Svitlana Tkachenko:thank you. Bye

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