Members: Peter Vergote, Debbie Monahan, Stephen Deerhake, Demi Getschko, Katrina Sataki, Nigel Roberts, Hiro Hotta, Abdalla Omari, Margarita Valdes, Young-eum Lee, Abibu Ntahigiye, Pablo Rodriguez (12)

NomCom/Observers/Liasons/Regional Organizations:  Barrack Otieno, Peter Van Roste, Maureen Hilyard, Ben Fuller, Svitlana Tkchenko (observer), Christelle Vaval, Jian Zhang

Staff: Bart Boswinkel, Kim Carlson,

Apologies:  Byron Holland, Leonid Todorov, Ching Chiao, Ben Fuller (late)

Did not attend - no apology sent:  

Recording: 

Minutes 

Agenda: 

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Chat Transcript:

Kimberly Carlson:Welcome to today's ccNSO Council Call on October 19th @18:00 UTC.
Joke Braeken:hello everyone!
Stephen Deerhake:Hi Joke! Don't panic yet --my slide set is getting closer to completion ;-)
Kimberly Carlson:Hi Demi
Joke Braeken:Hi Stephen, no panic over here :) I trust everything to be in order!
demi getschko:Hello all. I'm just leaving in minutes. (NIC's Board Meeting in progress)
Stephen Deerhake:Hi Katrina!
Katrina Sataki:Hi! :)
Kimberly Carlson:@Debbie, @Peter, i muted your AC lines
Hiro Hotta:Hi all
Barrack Otieno AFTLD:Hi all
Debbie Monahan:thanks Kimberly, for some reason the sound isn't coming through on my adobe room
Christelle Vaval:Hi all
Kimberly Carlson:you may need to leave and rejoin
Nigel:Kim: I keep losing connection. May I get a dialout please.
Kimberly Carlson:please PM me
Stephen Deerhake:"PM me" is a new Bingo square... What does it mean?
Kimberly Carlson:Agenda is scrollable
Katrina Sataki:send a personal message, I assume, Stephen :)
Joke Braeken:here is the link to the ccNSO Members agenda: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D69275074&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=_U6cdX8UNNL60OgwDDp7fBxTii9VxI_-gn_XCJ509_c&e=
jian Zhang:sorry being late
Bart Boswinkel:We did th efirst time:-) in 2004
Hiro Hotta:+1 to Debbie, Stephen
jian Zhang:+1
Nigel:I abstain from any decision regarding this suggestion.
Stephen Deerhake:Tip of the hat to Bart the historian for correcting me... ;-)
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:No problem, we will review the agenda.
demi getschko:No problems fo r me lso
Hiro Hotta:I do
demi getschko:I second
abibu (.tz):hello apologies for being late.
Barrack Otieno AFTLD:yes we can
Barrack Otieno AFTLD:yes loud and clear
Stephen Deerhake:Yes Nigel
demi getschko:Audio chopping sometimes
demi getschko:(no audio here)
Stephen Deerhake:Katrina, if you get no objections then you can send it out. We should have a conversation with them about this.
Bart Boswinkel:The secretariat will raise the FAQ as additional topic for the ccNSO-GAC session in ABu Dhabi
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you.
demi getschko:I'm laeving now. Good Meeting for all!
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Bye Demi :)
Stephen Deerhake:Bye Demi.
abibu (.tz):audio breaking for me as well!!!
Kimberly Carlson:Hi Pablo, welcome
Maria Otanes:The CSC and CSC Review Team related sessions can be found here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_B5JEB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=yqoxEWT6E4WByOxgbh2Ai4U9huTe3Z-Zoskw4K6CECk&e=
Pablo Rodríguez:Hello everyone
Stephen Deerhake:Katrina, do you want a very quick update on ECA?
Katrina Sataki:yes
Young-eum:welcome, Pablo.
Stephen Deerhake:Just ask...
Pablo Rodríguez:Hi Young-eum
Pablo Rodríguez:Hi Kim
Maria Otanes:The Wiki Space for CSC: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_rKbRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=nPj3NSPrEDz3V9GK0ycEPdMnaTPDgOXAwWpEkI4NkR8&e= CSC Review Team: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-2DCMhB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=ESZIeu96fpfCDlaR1Ol4WeTk4L8aNQ3RJuhoVuLtgmE&e=
Nigel:I support Katrina's comments about Stephen.
Nigel:Take a bow.
Debbie Monahan:yes, I do too
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you all for your confidence.
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:I agree with Katrina, Stephen is doing a great job.
Pablo Rodríguez:I agree
Young-eum:Agree!
Stephen Deerhake:That "deep knowledge" is a sign of serious illness, I'm afraid...
Pablo Rodríguez:I support Stephen's appointment
Peter (.be):lol
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Abu Dhabi ccnso information:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ccnso.icann.org_en_meetings_abudhabi60&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=kkVnj41wZl1HP3IEPEl1yVsHmQoaTvxZ0Vw2zSiqf9g&e= & https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_ccnsowkspc_ICANN60-2BGoogle-2BCalendar&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=Ujt0Dc8sWtGsDb_C5jNtRzuJagQ_WmrvwhJ54Qvt2ac&e=
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you Alegandra for all your work on this agenda!
Peter Van Roste:@Alejandra: thanks for the links!
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:You're welcome :)
Stephen Deerhake:Maybe the GNSO should send an observer to the SOP F2F?
Bart Boswinkel:They hav etheir own meetings at that time
Stephen Deerhake:They should be able to carve out one member to come and see wht the SOP does. I've got multiple conflicts with WG meetings on Sunday so it's not an uncommon problem...
Maureen Hilyard:Thank you for these suggestions, Katrina and team
Bart Boswinkel:It is confirmed
Joke Braeken:13:30 • 14:15 Joint meeting: ccNSO & GAC [ Hall 3 ]ISO 3166 three letter codes as TLDsnext steps: policy development on country & territory names, geo names as TLDsPDP retirement updateccNSO meeting strategy review
Joke Braeken:Joint meeting: ccNSO & GAC [ Hall 3 ]ISO 3166 three letter codes as TLDsnext steps: policy development on country & territory names, geo names as TLDsPDP retirement updateccNSO meeting strategy review
Joke Braeken:sorry about the layout. the topics are included in the notes as well
Young-eum:Report on ccwg-ig: Working on the charter. Will present it in Abu Dhabi.
Barrack Otieno AFTLD 2:No updates from AFTLD on RO section, got an unstable link apologies i cant speak
Katrina Sataki:bingo! :)
Joke Braeken:Akram Atallah and Theresa Swinehart recently published a blog post with a brief recap on where we are and a look-ahead at upcoming activities, related to Data Protection and Privacy. Read more: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_data-2Dprotection-2Dand-2Dprivacy-2Dupdate-5Bicann.org-5D&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=t7H0NqCDAq-RImc4VHGjPKBX2K3oEFdbk4hFJHT-jE0&e=
Nigel:FYI: Notwithstanding what I said at the last meeting re Byron's recusal, I plan to leave both the Adobe and Adigo rooms completely before item 16, as I think that's the most appropriate course of action today.
Joke Braeken:no thank you
Peter Van Roste:The CENTR position on CTN: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.centr.org_library_library_policy-2Ddocument_centr-2Dposition-2Don-2Dthe-2Duse-2Dof-2Dcountry-2Dand-2Dterritory-2Dnames-2Das-2Dtlds.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=D85zV3srHyGwDMwRnT4_G2qLBzN6isoUJW2lRuqarOw&e=
Barrack Otieno:Thanks Peter
Peter Van Roste:And an update from our LACTLD friends: they have a new GM!
Peter Van Roste:(Miguel Ignacio Estrada)
Katrina Sataki:will he be in Abu Dhabi?
Peter Van Roste:I don't know.
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:I believe Ignacio will be in Abu Dhabi :)
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:7 December is a good date
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:+1 for merging meetings
Hiro Hotta:7 Dec is fine
Stephen Deerhake:+1 Alejandra
Margarita Valdes:igf is on dec 18...
Pablo Rodríguez:I support the 7
Margarita Valdes:me too
Young-eum:support as well
Barrack Otieno:Thats fine Katrina
Debbie Monahan:7 fine with me and either time
Stephen Deerhake:Either works for me...
Kimberly Carlson:I will send updated calendar invite
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:For me too, either time
Barrack Otieno:11 UTC
Nigel:Good morning, good afternoon or good evening (to all!). See you in Abu Dhabi!!
Barrack Otieno:safe travels Nigel
Nigel:Thanks!
Pablo Rodríguez:Hi Nigel
Bart Boswinkel:Bye all
Pablo Rodríguez:Bye Bart
Stephen Deerhake:Bye Bart.
Joke Braeken:link to the WIKI : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D66085237&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=nYe-HBmjIDE-ObMLPQaKXpf3mMjBLiCmABOAsSpTiaI&e=
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:ICANN Bylaws https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_governance_bylaws-2Den_-23article7&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=uJVNLOCGbOtrikUXvQmyfEJhQE7mtzDg_i2DNgthwPo&s=E75mt6hu7Q_spFbcv_ibtAE9UI7TOB-XBG_50RIvXuI&e=
Debbie Monahan:yes, my apologies for getting in a bit early on that
Debbie Monahan:just really keen to hear from the candidates and get people thinkng of what they want
Margarita Valdes:I don't think so
Margarita Valdes:we never before have this kind of problem
Margarita Valdes:with none of our board candidates
Stephen Deerhake:I grant your concerns, Peter. I think the answer is more transparancy. And Council can instruct Nigel to step away when we think it's necessary. We do not have much going forward before the election. Exclusion of Nigel from the Council list might be in order for the immediate term; I have to think about it more.
Young-eum:As Margarita has said, we didn’t have an issue before. They just excused themselves from board election issues.
Kimberly Carlson:Thank you all, bye - safe travels
Debbie Monahan:bye and see you all soon
Young-eum:Bye!
Pablo Rodríguez:I agree with Young-eum and Margarita
Peter Van Roste:Thanks everyone, bye! I won't be in AD, but I will miss you all!
Stephen Deerhake:Thank you all. See all you soon. Safe travels and pleasant plane rides... ;-)
Joke Braeken:thank you all. Bye
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:See you in Adobe Connect for the next meeting :)
Barrack Otieno:Thank you , safe travels bye!
Hiro Hotta:thank you bye
Margarita Valdes:bye
Pablo Rodríguez:sell you all soon
Katrina Sataki:thanks! bye!
Christelle Vaval:bye

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