Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the ATLAS II Debrief Single Issue ALAC call on Friday 22 August 2014 at 1300 UTC
Gisella Gruber:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/EgLxAg
Holly Raiche:Hi
Holly Raiche:May I have a dial out. I think I forgot to ask
Gisella Gruber:@ Holly - dialling out to you
Maureen Hilyard:Good morning everyone
Holly Raiche:Hi Maureen - I hate to think what time it is there!
Maureen Hilyard:3am. yesterdays ccNSO Council meeting was at 2am.. :)
Holly Raiche:There should be prizes for calls that we in APAC join
Maureen Hilyard:LOL My prize is that you and Ali are coming to PacINET :)
Holly Raiche:Can't wait. Will be in touch about what I will be saying!
Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone!
Alan Greenberg:That was me! Flumbling fingers - not enough coffeee.
Maureen Hilyard:Good morning Leon and Alan
Fatima Cambronero:hello everyone
Holly Raiche:Hi Everyone
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hi everyone
Heidi Ullrich:@Olviier, we can add the names
Gisella Gruber:Please mute your microphone when not speaking
Gisella Gruber:Welcome Murray!
Murray McKercher:Hello from Sunny Toronto :)
Glenn:Please add the link to the wiki
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone. Apologies for arriving late.
Glenn:https://community.icann.org/display/als2/Post-ATLAS+II+Activities+Workspace
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Eduardo's lessons document is a good one. I especially like Recommendation 7
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:"Check currently standing ALAC groups to see if they can take over some of the groups responsibilities identified for ATLAS, leveraging their experience and synergies."
Heidi Ullrich:Reports spsce: https://community.icann.org/display/als2/ATLAS+II+Group+Reports
Heidi Ullrich:Staff will post it on the screen shortly
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Gisella, Adigo are not on skype
Tijani BEN JEMAA:can u plz ask them to call me
Gisella Gruber:@ Murray - I am just uploading with your report and will post revised document in a few moments
Glenn:@Dev I agree on Recommendation 7 but we need proper processes and procedures tor successful implementation
Heidi Ullrich:The Reports will aslo help in the planning of the next Summit!
Fatima Cambronero:sorry, I mixed the issues :(
Heidi Ullrich:@Fatima, you are just eager to start implementing ! :) Great!
Fatima Cambronero::)
Murray McKercher:@gisella Thank you I see it on the wiki and apologies for the delay in submitting
Heidi Ullrich:The agenda we are following today is at: https://community.icann.org/display/als2/ATLAS+II+Debrief+Single+Issue+ALAC+call+2014-08-22
Heidi Ullrich:Apologies for posting the incorrect earlier.
Heidi Ullrich:We are on item 3 at the moment
Fatima Cambronero:I prefer one only document
Glenn:summarize and avoid unnecessary duplication
Fatima Cambronero:people don't read long documents
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:not to discard the separate reports, but create a consolidated document pointing out a suggested approach for the summit
Glenn:I like the idea of a one pager
Evan Leibovitch:Hi all. Was on another call.
Glenn:@Dev is right the meat of the report is not lost,
Glenn:Hey Evan
Glenn:@Evan we are discussing the process of boiling down the report to a shorter version
Gisella Gruber:Welcome Eduardo
Evan Leibovitch:The report? As in, the Declaration?
Glenn:Me too
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Evan, no not declaration
Murray McKercher:I agree with Holly on the amount of discussion for this call and we hvae follow up calls
Heidi Ullrich:What about a shorter doc that lists the overall best practice (and bad practice) to take into account when planning ATLAS III?
Murray McKercher:@Heidi, I would support your suggestion
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Evan - it the reports from the various ATLAS group reports as to what worked, what didn't - https://community.icann.org/display/als2/ATLAS+II+Group+Reports
Evan Leibovitch:ah. thanks
Holly Raiche:On reports from the organising committee, they should be retained, but with a one or two page summary on top with the major lessons learned. In a separate document or separat section, reports from thematic groups on their suggestions, agan with a summary page on top.
Heidi Ullrich:Please note we are discussing reports from both the ATLAS II Working Groups and Thematic Groups on what worked well and what didn't.
Heidi Ullrich:We will review the Recommendations that the Thematic Groups developed and were put int the ATLAS II Declaration on the next agenda item
Murray McKercher:As this is an important task I will volunteer for this taSK
Leon Sanchez:I was volunteering :)
Maureen Hilyard:I agree that there have to be two groups (organisational and thematic) because the objectives of each group are different
Glenn:I suggest that the one pager uses some creative layout similar to the nice job that Ed did perhaps in Adode InDesign or something. It would be more pleasing to the eye
Glenn:using the various colours of the RALO's in the banner etc
Maureen Hilyard:I would volunteer to join the process group
Eduardo Diaz:INclude me teher.
Glenn:Off topic, Did you see the series Jonah from Tonga?
Murray McKercher:4 is good for the process
Heidi Ullrich:Only one group or two?
Murray McKercher:I would like to recognize the amazing work done by ICANN staff on the ATLAS II London Summit
Heidi Ullrich:!! I heard process group and..! ;)
Heidi Ullrich:Is there an official name of this one group for the reports?
Heidi Ullrich:Do they need a mailing list set up?
Leon Sanchez:@Heidi the report reporting group :P
Heidi Ullrich:RRG? or ATLAS II RRG (ARRG!)
Leon Sanchez:LOL
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol
Fatima Cambronero::)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:https://community.icann.org/display/als2/ATLAS+II+Group+Reports
Heidi Ullrich:We are going to have to have Ariel share her screen so she can edit live
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Olivier, this is the implementation wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/als2/Post-ATLAS+II+Activities+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:RRG Members, would Reports Consolidation Group be ok?
Evan Leibovitch:I have already been asked by one other constituency what is the deadline for the feedback that we have solicited.
Evan Leibovitch:I replied that it was a less formal process than a formal PCP.
Evan Leibovitch:Many of the recommendations are internally targeted at ALAC itself and need not go to the Board.
Heidi Ullrich:Ariel will be editing live. Please clearly state the text you would like her to post.
Glenn:yes
Glenn:lost voice
Glenn:Need defination of broader group, ie. underrepresented communities
Leon Sanchez:Increase budget to the Fellowship program
Glenn:mentorship, fellowship, CROPP
Gisella Gruber:soemone is typing close to their microphone - please mute
Evan Leibovitch:Some transparency would be nice in the explanation of why some project requests are accepted and why some are approved. Or -- as in the case this year -- why ALL were denied.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and hearing someone pounding on the keyboard ;-D
Gisella Gruber:@ Evan - we have muted your line
Glenn:@Evan
Evan Leibovitch:oops. I've muted my own phone. please unmute on adigo
Fatima Cambronero:+1 mentorship, fellowship to increase the participation of our community
Evan Leibovitch:it's a noisy mechanical keyboard ;-)
Glenn:I knew it was you
Murray McKercher:Apologies, I must leave the call for another meeting, I will re-connect with Staff on my volunteer activity
Fatima Cambronero:an Engagement WG?
carlos dionisio aguirre:something like that
Fatima Cambronero:I like the idea
Fatima Cambronero:it is something different to Capacity Building
carlos dionisio aguirre:yes of course
carlos dionisio aguirre:is a kind a wg wich work before implementation od capacity building
Glenn:Accountability by a third party?
carlos dionisio aguirre:looking for ideas to improve budget.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Fatima, Carlos sounds like a lot of overlap over Outreach and Capacity Building groups
Evan Leibovitch:If there is specific input to FCWG, please make the input as clear as possible. There will be much incoming to us :-)
carlos dionisio aguirre:in some cases there are many valuable person in the community who want collaborate ad honorem without budget
Allan Skuce:Looks like an ALAC function.
Fatima Cambronero:@Dev, I think engagement is different than outreach and CB
carlos dionisio aguirre:or some times is possible to do outreach with less budget. that is the idea
Holly Raiche:I think the overall theme is to increase inter group communications
Glenn:Cross organization communication is a good idea but is it effective?
Evan Leibovitch:Note: dot-mobi liaison is NOT bylaw mandated, that is part of the contract between ICANN and the mobi regiostry
carlos dionisio aguirre:I think we need a short WG of "ideas" on this sense
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:much cooperative work would need to happen with the parts your planning to Liase with and how it works. ojf course. both receiving and sending bodies need to work together on all this
Holly Raiche:Maybe something that will be part of the ALT discussion?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exchange of Liaisons is different as well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:maybe a LOT more definition work is needed here on this one. but yes to the ALT
judith hellerstein:Sorry I was late
carlos dionisio aguirre:@fatima great point !
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hey. I did that
Heidi Ullrich:Correct, Fatima! this was Cheryl's inititive!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ccNSO did. as you need a good handover and try for these roles if they are to be successful
Fatima Cambronero:great Cheryl! Sorry for not mentioned that
Maureen Hilyard:You did, Cheryl. Great mentorship
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:clearly not enough to be re,embered :-)
Fatima Cambronero:nooo I am newbie ;)
Fatima Cambronero:I want a Mentor like you Cheryl! :)
judith hellerstein:I thought the call was at a different time. sorry
judith hellerstein:@heidi @Gisella can you add my name as being on this call. Thanks sorry again about being late
Heidi Ullrich:Completed, Judith.
judith hellerstein:Thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly
Fatima Cambronero:@Olivier, I think some of them are a kind of principles and others are actions to implement
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Fatima: we ned to translate them all into implementable activities
Fatima Cambronero:exactly
Evan Leibovitch:no problem from the FCWG ;-)
Holly Raiche:ALT - to report back to ALAC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ALAC and Staff
Fatima Cambronero:+1 Dev
Allan Skuce:Regular agenda item.
Eduardo Diaz:Maybe the ROI group may want to take upon this
judith hellerstein:I think they have already done this?
Glenn:The tracking of all items at issues is an important organizational with this report and other
Glenn:Obvious China is the fastest growing community
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I would agree with Outreach
Fatima Cambronero:Outreach
Glenn:Russia too
Fatima Cambronero:@Olivier, right. It is related to ICANN regional strategies
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly Alan. we need to get some homewidone first
Fatima Cambronero:+1 Alan
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Wouldn't it be GSE Staff ?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ALAC. Access ability TF
Glenn: Iten perhaps we should expand languages should be inclusive to the disabled communitity
judith hellerstein:+1 for glenn
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Mind you, the transcipts for Monday's LACRALO call were uploaded in multiple languages (EN, ES, PT) on Wednesday/Thursday
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:very impressive turnaround
Glenn:How can we make our documents as open as possible
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Glenn -- what you are suggesting is already in is Rec 11
Allan Skuce:Future Challenges.
Fatima Cambronero:I think we will have a lot of interested in LACRALO to participate in this group
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Fatima - the problem is when those documents are submitted to staff for translation - sending a large document just before an ICANN F2F meeting isn't trivial
Glenn:@Olivier thanks
Holly Raiche:Folks - I have an early start in the morning and LONG day ahead so I"ll leave you - and read the transcript for the rest of the call
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care Holly
Fatima Cambronero:@Dev, the problem with translations are all the time. I understand your point but we need to improve these services
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@FAtima - Because many in LACRALO weren't even aware of these documents for the GA existed
Glenn:@cheryl aslo we have Dev's group TTF on looking at technology solutions to help communication
Fatima Cambronero:Chair and Secretary asked the translation of those documents, @Dev
Maureen Hilyard:Great idea Cheryl about the use of the Accessibility Taskforce
Glenn:Yea Dev
judith hellerstein:+1 Dev
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes there is much collaborative work between our two WG / TF
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we discussed ur need to interact with the TF in our last call
Fatima Cambronero:I don't have problem in the interpretation. Thanks Sabrina
Heidi Ullrich:Is that an AI?
Heidi Ullrich:or just in the report?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:+1 Cheryl indeed this can be a collob for TTF and Accessibilty
judith hellerstein:no what cheryl was talking about testing out some captioning pads in the tech task force
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we are both Task Forces
Glenn:It started slow but we are on a roll
Heidi Ullrich:Next call - next week. Same time or will a Doodle be required?
judith hellerstein:not sure that is good because of the labor day holiday
Heidi Ullrich:Isn't that on a Monday?
Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Olivier
judith hellerstein:yes but most people leave Friday or earlier. I know I will not be around
Heidi Ullrich:@Judith, you are the only community member on this call who will celebrate US Labor Day
judith hellerstein:also some people may be heading out to the IGF so maybe have it on thursday
Heidi Ullrich:perhaps, Eduardo as well...
Heidi Ullrich:So a Doodle?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@fatima - but my point is that these documents for the GA weren't even shared with all of LACRALO before the meeting. If these documents were readied by chair and secretariat, then a mention should have been sent to the LACRALO members that this was done and that the documents are being sent ; if a document is sent a day or two before, its a bit much for language services to be able to respond to this.
judith hellerstein:yes a doodle is best
Glenn:I recommend we duplicate Ed's great layout for the shorter document in Adobe Indesign or other
carlos dionisio aguirre:for me next week same day same time is fine
Evan Leibovitch:Clarity is not a problem, I agree.
Glenn:We can't be naive on the value of the document. It needs to short, sweet and attractive
Glenn:Think good marketing materials
Maureen Hilyard:1 @ Glenn. Eduardo's is an excellent report
Fatima Cambronero:@Dev, I won't speak for the Chair and Secretary :) I shared that the only thing that I knew. The translation was asked, I don't know how many time before
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:My goodness - Kudos to Sabrina
Glenn:Bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:great thanks all bye
Fatima Cambronero:thanks Sabrina!
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks!
Eduardo Diaz:Gracias
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care all
Fatima Cambronero:thanks to all. Bye
Allan Skuce:Thanks, Bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:wow Sabrina. THANKS :-)
Leon Sanchez:thanks
Ariel Liang:Thank you bye bye
carlos dionisio aguirre:@sabrina the best. great work. bye all
