Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the LACRALO Monthly call on Monday 20 August 2012 at 2300 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/3AceAg
  Gisella Gruber-White:Bonsoir Philippe - merci de rajouter votre nom de famille sur l'Adobe Connect - cela permettra a tout le monde de vous reconnaitre.
  Gisella Gruber-White:je devrais dire 'identifier'
  Philippe:Philippe Boland de enREDo
  Philippe:enREDo At Large Colombia
  Philippe:Buenos dias a todos Bonsoir a tous
  Gisella Gruber-White:Merci Philippe
  Philippe:De rien Gisella
  Alfredo Lopez (Enredo-COLOMBIA):Hola a todos
  Philippe:Je viens de m'inscrire a ton Ning de http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/
  Philippe:yes I can
  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the LACRALO Monthly call on Monday 20 August 2012 at 2300 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/3AceAg
  Humberto Carrasco:Hi
  Philippe:saludos pero me gusto esta conversacion jeje
  Gisella Gruber-White:Hola a todos!
  sergio salinas porto:hola a todos /hi all
  Evan Leibovitch:saludos desde Canadá
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
  sergio salinas porto:hello evan...Congratulation my friend!
  Philippe:hola a todos hello everyone
  Fatima Cambronero:hola a todos/hello everyone
  sergio salinas porto:hi dev!
  Philippe:bonsoir a tous
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All/Hola a todos
  Heidi Ullrich:Silvia will be taking notes in ES  (bottom left) and Matt will be taking notes in EN (bottom right)
  Natalia Enciso:Hello!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'll need a dialout
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:hi all
  Evan Leibovitch:I don't hear anything on yet the English Adigo channel but plenty of activity in the Adobe Connect audio. Is that OK?
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:there a lot of activity on the espanish chanel
  Heidi Ullrich:Yes
  Ginger Paque:Saludos a todos...
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:Saludos Ginger
  Fatima Cambronero:hola Ginger!
  Natalia Enciso:Hola Ginger! Bienvenida!
  Ginger Paque:Hola a todos... encantada estar aquí
  Sylvia Herlein:Hola, cómo estás??? qué bueno tenerte aquí!
  Heidi Ullrich:Carlton, your line has a lot of wind sound. We have muted you.
  Ginger Paque:(La reunión en español, supongo...
  Ginger Paque:veo agunos del habla inglés
  Sylvia Herlein:si, estan en el otro canal
  Sylvia Herlein:tenemos 2= espanol e ingles
  Sylvia Herlein:y los interpretes
  Ginger Paque:el chat está compartido?
  Sylvia Herlein:si
  Ginger Paque:wow, interpretes y todo... uf si que están bien organizados!
  Carlton Samuels:Hi Ginger, welcome!
  Ginger Paque:Hi Carlton!
  Carlton Samuels:Great to have you on
  Ginger Paque:Hi Dev!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello Ginger, how are you?
  Ginger Paque:Great.... in Venezuela
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:right next door ;-)
  Ginger Paque:Olivier... do you speak Spanish?
  Ginger Paque:Yes, I could swim across
  Carlton Samuels:True that, Ginger....maybe make another record, like thgat lady swimmer from Cuba to Miami
  Ginger Paque::) @ Carlton
  Ginger Paque:(Hola Sergio)
  Evan Leibovitch:I can hear you Veronica
  sergio salinas porto:hello ginger!!!! wellcome!
  Ginger Paque:Hi Evan... don't know what language to greet you in...
  Evan Leibovitch:Sign language
  Ginger Paque::)
  Ginger Paque:(Ginger waves wildly, hoping Evan will see her)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I don't speak Spanish @Ginger. But I can just about read some Spanish
  Evan Leibovitch:I see. you, Ginger.
  Evan Leibovitch:Usually "sign language" means people giving me the finger
  Ginger Paque:(Hola Adrian y Vanda!!)
  Ginger Paque:pueden confirmar que me oigan?
  Heidi Ullrich:Link to DiploFoundation: http://www.diplomacy.edu/
  Fatima Cambronero:no te escuchamos Ginger
  vanda:ola ginger nice to hear you!
  Gisella Gruber-White:Ginger is not on the telephone bridge
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ GInger - please activate your microphone in order to participate on the Spanish channel via the Adobe Connect
  vanda:are we waiting for her to connect?
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Ginger - we are also happy to dial-out to you if you would prefer
  Heidi Ullrich:No, Ginger is on the AC room only
  Sylvia Herlein:solo escucharemos a Ginger por la compu
  Ginger Paque:me sigue dando error, perdon
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Sylvia - we are dialling out to Ginger
  Carlton Samuels:We are on dead air here!
  Sylvia Herlein:los oyentes coloquen los telefonos en MUDO = * 6
  Ginger Paque:It might be my bandwidth?
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Ginger - we are dialling out to you - English or Spanish channel?
  Ginger Paque:spanish I think
  Sylvia Herlein:se escuchan ruidos en el canal de esapnol
  Ginger Paque:can be English
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Ginger - thank you
  Gisella Gruber-White:GInger is connected on Spanish channel
  Fatima Cambronero:thanks Gisella
  Ginger Paque:no estoy dando muy buen ejemplo de participacion remota hoy :(
  Ginger Paque:se cayó la llamada
  Philippe:exacto
  Fatima Cambronero::(
  Sylvia Herlein:kkkk
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Ginger - we are calling you back
  Ginger Paque:Además estamos en Skyp[
  Gisella Gruber-White:Ginger is back
  Ginger Paque:Mientras tanto, realmente pienso que lo mas importante es hacer hincapíe en la importancia de inclusion y participación
  Ginger Paque:y el recurso que representa la participación en l''inea
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Ginger - please speak Spanish as we have simultaneous interpretation
  Fatima Cambronero:¿Cómo tienen que hacer las personas para armar un hub de participación remota para el IGF?
  Sylvia Herlein:muy bien ginger
  Sylvia Herlein:te escuchamos bien
  Fatima Cambronero:How could the people build a Hub of remote participation for the IGF?
  Natalia Enciso:cual es el porcentaje de participación remota?
  Sylvia Herlein:se escucha gente digitando y otros ruidos, por favor coloquen en MUDO el telefono
  Sylvia Herlein:*6
  Sylvia Herlein:y *7 para volver
  Gisella Gruber-White:Jose Arce has joined the Spanish channel
  Sylvia Herlein:great
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:how is the percentage of  individual end users of LAC region in face to face IGF meetings?  Q exclude the governments representatives.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Gilberto Lara has joined the Adobe Connect
  Fatima Cambronero:please, mute
  Javier Pallero:Esos seríamos nosotros, estamos a la espera de las noticias para organizar nuestro HUB en Cordoba.
  Javier Pallero:=)
  Sylvia Herlein:genial
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ vanda - your line is muted
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:ok thanks
  vanda:i turned off the computer sound.
  sergio salinas porto:cuenta con nosotros Ginger!
  Roosevelt King:is there a link to participate?
  alberto soto:podrían enviar el link para participar? muchas grcias
  Ginger Paque: Gracias, un placer
  Ginger Paque:un link para el WS 52?
  Sylvia Herlein:alguien quiere la palabra?
  alberto soto:si, por favor
  Sylvia Herlein:tenemos 5 minuts para preguntas
  Sylvia Herlein:5 minutes to ask Ginger
  alberto soto:Mi si fue para Ginger
  Roosevelt King:where is the link?
  Ginger Paque:http://wsms1.intgovforum.org/content/no52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles
  Roosevelt King:OK, thank you
  Ginger Paque:virginiap@diplomacy.edu
  Philippe:Thanks Muchas gracias
  Alfredo Lopez (Enredo-COLOMBIA):Ginger, un saludo desde Bogota. Quiero contarte que lideramos una Red Academica de Universidades que trabajamos todos lo relacionado de las TIC, somos alrededo de 15 universidades; para el proximo encuentro que tienen organizado puedes contar con nosotros. (Auditorios, salas de Internet, asistentes...)
  Fatima Cambronero:muchas gracias Ginger!/thank you very much Ginger!
  alberto soto:muchas gracias Ginger!!
  Ginger Paque:Gracias a todos!!!!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thank you Ginger
  vanda:THANK YOU gINGER
  Ginger Paque:Cheers, everyone, obrigada, Vanda
  Philippe:Si alfredo buena iniciativa
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:Thanks Ginger !!!! your participation is very usefull for us
  sergio salinas porto:thanks Ginger!
  Alfredo Lopez (Enredo-COLOMBIA):gracias Ginger
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Sure
  Carlton Samuels:Thanks for the word Ginger. Much obliged
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thank you Ginger - that was very helpful
  Natalia Enciso 2:hay audio
  Natalia Enciso 2:'no escucho nada
  Gilberto Lara:Que paso!!!
  Natalia Enciso 2:ahora si
  Natalia Enciso 2:de nuevo se fue
  Natalia Enciso 2:el audio digo
  Gilberto Lara:No hay audio o soy yo?
  Fatima Cambronero:no audio
  Philippe:no hay por adobe
  Philippe:ya si
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Who is speaking?
  Sylvia Herlein:humberto
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:thanks
  Fatima Cambronero:Humberto Carrasco now
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ ALL/Todos - please identify yourselves when speaking
  Gisella Gruber-White:And do not speak at the same time
  Gisella Gruber-White:a todos: por favor diga su nombre cuando se habla
  Gisella Gruber-White:Y no hablamos al mismo tiempo
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:not hearing you Carlton, you may be muted
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Yes
  Gisella Gruber-White:Carlton is now speaking
  Natalia Enciso 2:yes
  Fatima Cambronero:agree Carlton
  Natalia Enciso 2:agree with Carlton
  Sylvia Herlein:sergio is speaking now
  Gisella Gruber-White:Carlton has disconnected
  alberto soto:i agree with Carlton
  Gisella Gruber-White:Carlton is back
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:lo de voto calificado tiene que ver con una supermayoria! no con calificar los votos individuales!
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:lo del voto calificado tenia que ver con la necesidad de contar con supermayoria en el tema a decidir. no con relacion a calificar los votos particulares!
  Carlton Samuels:@Sergio:  There is NO requirement to vote on whether Humberto Carrasco is a member of the region!!
  vanda:  but we need to  define  who has the legal base in this issue
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:+1
  vanda:reading Jose Ovidio, we can see that Adam  had similar situation and was selected.
  Humberto Carrasco:yes
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:sorry was not the same situation!
  vanda:me apreceo peor - Adam es residente en Japon
  Carlton Samuels:@Vanda: Was Adam representing EURALO or was he selected by NomCom?
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:perdon Jose: votar sin discutir?
  Natalia Enciso 2:No estoy de acuerdo Jose. Las reglas se acatan, no se votan si se acatan o no.
  Roosevelt King:No qorum in this meeting. Proposing a virtual vote
  Natalia Enciso 2:Para que tenemos reglas si vamos a votar cuando las queremos aplicar y cuando no?
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:we need to give further discussion about it. it`s not a simple thing!. this situation affect the futuro in our region
  vanda: I agree , not a simple issue. it is legal stuff and more clear the best.
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:there no quorum in this meeting
  Natalia Enciso 2:what happened with the audios of San Juan?
  Natalia Enciso 2:Do we have access to them?
  Carlton Samuels:@ROK.  There would be a quorum  requirement of 50%+1 since this is not a trivial question. So country coefficients shall apply to count the votes
  Carlton Samuels:That is 50%+1 of ALS
  vanda:en este call no tenemos suficiente ALSs apra que sea representativo, creo Yo.
  Philippe:que % somos vanda
  vanda:agree with Carlton
  Heidi Ullrich:@Natalia, At-Large staff asked IT to see if they could get the audios to work (they were not Adigo). IT was not able to get them to work.
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Carlton, indeed, quorum requirement of 50%+1 of ALS
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:Adam situation was very different, because was elected by NomCom, with different rules!!!!!
  Carlton Samuels:I have to leave off now.  My apologies.
  Natalia Enciso 2:THanks Heidi.
  alberto soto:puede escuchar lo que se está diciendo sobre la votación?
  Roosevelt King:ok
  Carlton Samuels:@Carlos: Exactly right!
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:please stop with the ignorance. we need to talk with some degree of knowledge.
  Carlton Samuels:That was what we call a 'red herring' in argument!
  Natalia Enciso 2:Fortunately, all the founders are participating and should give light to this issue. Being honest what was the real meaning.
  vanda: I don´t beleive we are talking about that. I understood he was selected by Euralo to represent at NOMCOMM the region.... but I beleive we nedd to have it checked. btu I understood was said by Olivier, so, for me is clear.
  Carlton Samuels:@Natalia: The real meaning was you have to live in the country of the region to be qualified.  
  Carlton Samuels:Especially for the 2 year term of ALAC office!
  Natalia Enciso 2:THanks Carlton. So Humberto does not fullfill the requirements
  Humberto Carrasco:Bueno
  Natalia Enciso 2:So it is clearly ilegal to vote agains the application of the ruel
  Natalia Enciso 2:rule
  Roosevelt King:The question should be how long can a person be away from their residence to be a valid candidate and not Humberto???
  Natalia Enciso 2:ROK, I think that during the mandate the candidate has to be resident in the Region.
  Humberto Carrasco:Natalia
  Humberto Carrasco:I must go to chile
  Humberto Carrasco:for several months
  Roosevelt King:but Humberto is resident in the region. Or do you mean that the person should be present in the region?
  Humberto Carrasco:to research about my topic
  Humberto Carrasco:Actually
  Humberto Carrasco:I am flying by the end of this year
  Humberto Carrasco:in that case,
  vanda:For me the most relevant is different interpretaciones ,
  alberto soto:Eo0svelt, only during the period of his duty as Member Alac
  Natalia Enciso 2:Carlton has clearly explain the meaning.
  Humberto Carrasco:Where is my residence?
  Carlton Samuels:By virtue of his university attachment and by his pown hand, Humberto has not disagreed he must be resident in Scotland.  By virtue of his own hand, he expects to be resident in Scotland past 2014.  Question:  Has Humberto denounced rgw residency requiremnt of the Scottish university?  And if so, does he retain his status as a student?
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@Fatima : clap, clap, clap !
  Roosevelt King:loose language Carlton.
  alberto soto:Roosvelt, only during the period of his duty as Member Alac
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@Carlton: +1
  Natalia Enciso 2:Agree with Fatima
  Humberto Carrasco:I insist, I have to travel to Chile for several months soon
  Javier Pallero:+1 to Fatima. Voting wether to respecto the rules or not is, by all means,  illegal
  Humberto Carrasco:I will have chilean residence again?
  Philippe:Bien Fatima
  Carlton Samuels:@REoosevelt: As a practical ,matter, NOT for the duration of the term of office!
  alberto soto:I agree FAtima
  Carlton Samuels:Bye all
  Roosevelt King:so he should not be representing Chile on LACRALO?
  vanda: Carlton.  for you there is only one interpretation?  
  Humberto Carrasco:Señor presidente
  Humberto Carrasco:yo no he contratado a nadie
  Humberto Carrasco:Yo le solicite que me ayudara a preparar los argumentos
  Humberto Carrasco:nadsie le ha pagado a nadie señor presidente
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:bye all, was to much for me on this afternoon ! thanks to all.
  Alfredo Lopez (Enredo-COLOMBIA):Quiero respetuosamente, hacer un llamado a la unidad e iniciar el trabajo en equipo. Ojo que este juego de la division le sirve a los que estan en contra de la unidad de la region. Otros son los que se le favorecen.
  Natalia Enciso 2:y esta situacion queda como antecedente para votar cualquier otra ley si se acepta o no?
  Natalia Enciso 2:+1 Alfredo
  vanda:Calton. the rule is written, I could not found clearly this rule, or it was the use in our foundation...
  vanda:?
  vanda:Seing the ICANn rule for that, I don´t see whay we have different since the beggining,..
  alberto soto:Dev, como fue la aprticipacion personal de los integrantes del  grupo' hubo much participacion personal, por favor, puedes dar nombres? gracias
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:y quienes son los que estan por la region?
  Sylvia Herlein:I must go, I'm so sorry, bye!!!
  vanda:bye Silvia, gracias por el trabajo
  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:muy buena reunion!
  alberto soto:bye, bye  to all!!
  Jose Arce:Bye all
  Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you everyone
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I would be happy to answer any questsions re: the gTLD Review Group
  Fatima Cambronero:thanks to all/gracias a todos
  Humberto Carrasco 2:byye
  Fatima Cambronero:bye
  Humberto Carrasco 2:cho a todos
  Natalia Enciso 2:bye
  vanda:thank you for all participation
  Javier Pallero:Gracias a todos y saludos! adios!
  Alfredo Lopez (Enredo-COLOMBIA):Adios a Todos
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All.
  Silvia Vivanco:Gracias a todos. Thanks all

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