Mario Aleman:Welcome to the LACRALO Monthly Teleconference call on Monday 21 August 2017 at 23:00 UTC

  Mario Aleman:Draft agenda https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mA4hB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=NSPqhI5kqHKxkE_74UrdwFImq-0XwXbPmgCrIXy-QXI&s=G-e-CuS7EhJ6W_zvv49MV1fBuUaJ_NvQ4ugH4AQaV70&e=

  Bartlett Morgan:Hola a todo

  Bartlett Morgan:hello everyone

  Humberto Carrasco:Hello everyone

  Humberto Carrasco:hola a todos

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):Hola Dr. Carrasco

  Ricardo Holmquist:Buenas tardes a todos

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola Maestro carlos Raúl

  Mario Aleman:Good afternoon to everyone, Welcome to the call.  Buenas tardes a todos. Bienvenidos a la llamada.

  Lito Ibarra:Hola / hello

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola Ricardo, mario Lito

  Humberto Carrasco:bienvenidos

  Alfredo Lopez:buenas tardes a todos

  Aída Noblia:Hola a todos

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola Alfredo y Aida

  Alfredo Lopez:Un saludo  especial Humberto

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:please unsyn agenda

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:unsync

  Ricardo Holmquist:Saludos Humberto

  Aída Noblia:Hola Humberto,

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):I can heqr you all but no speaker. So I´m waiting for a phone bridge

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):I mean I have a speaker in my old desktop, but no mic

  Fatima Cambronero:hola a tod@s

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola fatima

  Vanda Scartezini:Hi, halo, ola apra todor, to everyone

  Vanda Scartezini:si te escuchamos bien

  Fatima Cambronero:hola Humberto

  Mario Aleman:Hello Humberto?

  Vanda Scartezini:hola Silvia..

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):waiting for my call

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):+506 8837 7176 please

  Mario Aleman:Thank you, Carlos

  Mario Aleman:dialing now

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):connected

  sylvia herlein leite:hola a todos!!

  Humberto Carrasco:hola sylvia

  Vanda Scartezini:hola Sylvia como estas?

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola Vanda

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:again - unsync agenda please.

  Humberto Carrasco:Hello Olivier

  Vanda Scartezini:me olvidaste estoy solo en el adobe

  Vanda Scartezini:no estoy en canal en portugues

  Mario Aleman:Gracias, Vanda. Anotado

  Antonio medina:buenas tardes/noches a todos

  Humberto Carrasco:Hola Antonio

  Vanda Scartezini:hola Antonio espero que esteas bien.

  Antonio medina:bien gracias

  Silvia Vivanco:Welcome all

  Silvia Vivanco:Bienvenidos a todos

  Bartlett Morgan:i can hear you

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes

  Gianina Pensky:gracias a todos, dejo mi correo por si alguien tiene alguna consulta adicional gianina@lacnic.net

  Vanda Scartezini:verywell Olivier

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):ES perfect

  Ricardo Holmquist:Gracias Gianina

  Humberto Carrasco:Muchas gracias Gianina

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):translator´s voice is much much nicer than the original :)

  Ricardo Holmquist::D

  Vanda Scartezini:Carlos.... Olivier tinee una voz agradable tambien....

  Humberto Carrasco:Of course Olivier

  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you for this excellent presentation Olivier

  Vanda Scartezini:thank you Olivier, really a wonderful resumen.

  Heidi Ullrich:Very complete discussion, Olivier!

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond::-) Carlos  - I am sure the interpretation voice is a lot nicer than mine!

  Humberto Carrasco:Olivier, you should teach at the University

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:heheheh :-) :-) :-)

  Vanda Scartezini:OCL - I am against Carlos's view.... you have a nice voice..kkk

  Bartlett Morgan:Guys, I have to drop off the AC room. Will follow via phone only

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Aida's slide deck: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_69275288_Presentaci-25C3-25B3n-2520LACRALO-252021-2520AGO-25202017VF.pdf-3Fversion-3D2-26modificationDate-3D1503354081000-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=NSPqhI5kqHKxkE_74UrdwFImq-0XwXbPmgCrIXy-QXI&s=2Ia8P-91xwP3gnC3Xtjkdj1wmbdZazOHO-zCn9o8C5Y&e=

  Vanda Scartezini:muchas gracias Aida. bien claro

  Ricardo Holmquist:Muy buena la presentacion Aida, gracias

  Vanda Scartezini:Aida, que nos envie esta presentacion

  Silvia Vivanco:Muchas gracias Aida

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Aida was very much involved with the Review

  Harold Arcos:Muchas gracias Aida,,Muy buena la clasificación específica de los temas por importancia.

  sylvia herlein leite:me escuchan

  sylvia herlein leite:??

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):no se escucha

  Silvia Vivanco:Formacion Futuro Consejo de LACRALO FFCL-WG/Formation of the Future LACRALO Council: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D66066360&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=NSPqhI5kqHKxkE_74UrdwFImq-0XwXbPmgCrIXy-QXI&s=KpBQQBxGbL7LmcGEz_E1F-_eLEX2XU6bFW1COc8w9Ik&e=

  Ricardo Holmquist:no

  Humberto Carrasco:no

  Silvia Vivanco:Sylvia you may be muted

  Humberto Carrasco:no se escucha

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):no hay sonido de Silvia

  sylvia herlein leite:me pueden llamaar

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):un problema para nosotros los ANCIANOS..........

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica)::(

  sylvia herlein leite:mario me puedes llamar

  sylvia herlein leite:no se que esta pasando

  Vanda Scartezini:ya estoy tan anciana que siquiera puedo contestar....

  sylvia herlein leite:estoy esperando la llamada

  sylvia herlein leite:no se que pasa con el audio

  Ricardo Holmquist:los comen tarios pueden ser por correo, o tienen que hacerse en alguna wiki?

  Alberto Soto:levante la mano

  Vanda Scartezini:estan te llamando Silvia.

  Vanda Scartezini:hable

  Silvia Vivanco:Gracias Sylvia

  Silvia Vivanco:si te oimos

  Alberto Soto:no problem, adelante!!

  Humberto Carrasco:Muchas gracias Alberto

  Silvia Vivanco:Silvia Vivanco: Formacion Futuro Consejo de LACRALO FFCL-WG/Formation of the Future LACRALO Council: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D66066360&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=EIZsRD5HkaWrY-IOAapEBdyRwuZLXAVNnDN6t_SaXlQ&m=NSPqhI5kqHKxkE_74UrdwFImq-0XwXbPmgCrIXy-QXI&s=KpBQQBxGbL7LmcGEz_E1F-_eLEX2XU6bFW1COc8w9Ik&e=

  Silvia Vivanco:The WG wiki is linked to the Agenda

  Humberto Carrasco:It is important to note that this document is in English

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):Bravo!!!!!!!

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The problem with "Emeritus" means according to Google search : "In some cases, the term is conferred automatically upon all persons who retire at a given rank, but in others, it remains a mark of distinguished service, awarded to only a few on retirement. It is also used when a person of distinction in a profession retires or hands over the position, enabling their former rank to be retained in their title, e.g., "Professor Emeritus" The term emeritus does not necessarily signify that a person has relinquished all the duties of their former position, and they may continue to exercise some of them."

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeritus

  casas cristian:excelente normativa.

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):DEv, if the alternative is Elder, I take emeritus assuming we will mediate intead of defend individudal positions

  Silvia Vivanco:all meetings are recorded and trasnscribed so you can see it

  Silvia Vivanco:in each page

  Silvia Vivanco:the EN version is a draft, we will send the FINAL version for translation services

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@carlos - It still implies that the persons in such a group are retired from the work

  sylvia herlein leite:hola

  Aída Noblia:si

  Aída Noblia:El segundo nombre del Consejo era Consejo Consultivo de LACRALO

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:My point about the Googke doc is that Carlton made several comments on it - so its important to capture that

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:not so much about access to the Google doc again

  Humberto Carrasco:Dev, renata is first. After that, you

  Humberto Carrasco:Renata, Dev y Alberto

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ok, humberto but the point is that the Google doc has Carlton's comments in several places - so with the removal of  the Google doc, it may not be seen. So perhaps Silvia (Staff) can copy Carlton's comments on the wiki

  Humberto Carrasco:este es el orden

  Vanda Scartezini:vx   khjklkjhgfhgfdsffdfdfdsszagtttf44r        bbbbvvvvvvvcfddd,,                              

  Humberto Carrasco:Vanda?

  Silvia Vivanco:@ Dev, I saw Carlton's comments in the document uploaded in the wiki page

  Vanda Scartezini:perdon el teclado he disparado...

  Humberto Carrasco:si

  Vanda Scartezini:si

  Fatima Cambronero:si

  Silvia Vivanco:if they need to be transcribed again we can certainly add them again

  Silvia Vivanco:we will post a new EN version ASAP

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Silvia - it depends on the tool used to view the PDF - in adobe reader for eg, the comments aren't seen

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Silvia - in the preview, you can see the PDF comments by Carlton

  Silvia Vivanco:@ Dev, thanks for pointing this out. I can see all the comments

  Vanda Scartezini: ayuisty dx dxxxxggghbhuunjnghgbvcz

  Vanda Scartezini:'

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Silvia but if the wiki comments are the formal way to capture comments and not the google doc anymore, then it needs the comments copied onto the wiki

  Humberto Carrasco:Dev, I understand your point. Silvia, can you point the comments on the wiki (Carlton's comments

  Silvia Vivanco:@ Dev and Humberto, I can type in all Carlton's comments into the comment section of the wiki

  Humberto Carrasco:Thanks

  sylvia herlein leite:por favor no silvia

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Silvia, Humberto, that was all I wanted to point out - if this is captured as an AI , I'll lower my hand

  Silvia Vivanco:oh ok Sylvia

  sylvia herlein leite:porque carlton comento sobre un doc que no es el final

  sylvia herlein leite:le escribiremos y le pediremos perdon

  Humberto Carrasco:ok

  Vanda Scartezini:gracias Alberto

  sylvia herlein leite:y le pediremos que haga nuevos comentarios sobre el doc final

  Humberto Carrasco:ok

  Bartlett Morgan:not being heard

  Humberto Carrasco:no

  Vanda Scartezini:bartlett dijo que necesitava irse hace algun tiempo.....no?

  Bartlett Morgan:not sure what the probllem is

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:no, not hearing you

  sylvia herlein leite:can you write it?

  Alberto Soto:debe tener problemas de micrfono. Había quedado solo en el AC

  Vanda Scartezini:Nice can you write we are not lhearing

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Barltett is speaking

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:now

  Humberto Carrasco:yes

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):@bartlett in my view is to IMPLEMENT recommedations

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):recommendations of the mediation

  Humberto Carrasco:yes Carlos

  Humberto Carrasco:you are right

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):maybe we are missing a ratinnale based on the report

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):rationale

  Bartlett Morgan:I know that the original objective is there; I am curious about the other objectives that were added. I want to know *why* they were added

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):we should nvere loose the link to the mediation report

  Bartlett Morgan:I hope my question translates well

  Vanda Scartezini:the same objectives are described under the 8 items

  Bartlett Morgan::-)

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):good point BArtlett

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):we should work on that

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):*the narrow remit* of the mediation report should be included

  Vanda Scartezini:carlos siguimos estos objectivos  iniciales

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):old hand

  Ricardo Holmquist:Barlett, share the same doubts, and unfortunatelly Silvia didn't understand your question

  Humberto Carrasco:i thibk we need to wait the final version in english

  Bartlett Morgan:oLd hand

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):by the way, whowever is charign whould have the right to turn hands down

  wladimir:Estoy de acuerdo con Sylvia

  Ricardo Holmquist:Some of the items added are overlapped over the same functions as the president or the secretary

  Vanda Scartezini:gracias a todos por tan buena participacion!!!! gracias Sylvia, dev, Bartlett , Alberto

  Vanda Scartezini:Dev

  sylvia herlein leite:gracias a todos, fue un placer

  Humberto Carrasco:Gracias Sylvia

  Humberto Carrasco:estamos en otros asuntos

  Humberto Carrasco:ojo

  sylvia herlein leite:please Ricardo, put it on wikipage

  Ricardo Holmquist:I send an email with this

  Ricardo Holmquist:yes, i will also put them on the wiki page

  Vanda Scartezini:excellent Dev! this is quite relevant

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):no prob

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):great call

  Lito Ibarra:Gracias a todos. Thanks everyone

  Alberto Soto:gracia, saludos!! Thanks, regards!!!!!

  Ricardo Holmquist:gracias a todos

  Ricardo Holmquist:buenas noches

  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all !!

  Bartlett Morgan:Gracias mi amigas

  Bartlett Morgan:adios

  Silvia Vivanco:Muchas gracias

  Aída Noblia:Muchas Gracisa Saludos a todos

  Bartlett Morgan:thanks everyone. Goodbye

  Harold Arcos:Gracias a todos, excelente llamada!!  Thanks to interpreters...

  Carlos R Gutierrez (Costa Rica):gracias a todos

  Fatima Cambronero:gracias a todos, bye

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:thanks everyone - take care all

  wladimir:Muy buena reunión. Gracias

  Gilberto Lara:Gracias. Saludos,

  Silvia Vivanco:Buenas noches

  Silvia Vivanco:take care all

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