WT D CHAT: 03 FEB 2011
Seth Greene: WT D CHAT: 03 FEB 2011
Seth Greene: Hello, everyone.
Rudi Vansnick: hi Seth
Seth Greene: Hi, Rudi. I was actually just about to send you an e-mail. Would you take a look in a moment, pls?
Rudi Vansnick: yes no problem
Seth Greene: Thanks
Rudi Vansnick: got your mail ...
Rudi Vansnick: i posted already the link to the related website where the workgroup docs can be found
Seth Greene: Thank you, Rudi.
Rudi Vansnick: hectic too here ... still no government after elections in June 2010, a week before the icann meeting in brussels
Rudi Vansnick: you imagine what this means
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: Hello all!
Rudi Vansnick: hello Dev, just dialed in
Rudi Vansnick: hello everyone
Chris Grundemann: hello, dialing in now
Seth Greene: Thanks, Chris.
Dave Kissoondoyal: Hello all
Seth Greene: Hi, Dave.
Rudi Vansnick: it is New Year today .... in China ;-)
Dave Kissoondoyal: Kung Shee Fat Choy - Wish you a happy Spring Festival and a happy Chinese New Year -- This year is the Rabbit year
Dave Kissoondoyal: Seth, grateful to you if you could please speak a bit louder... i can hardly hear you
Rudi Vansnick: i commit myself to go through the consumers document tomorrow as i'm also following a similar discussion in other groups
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_OCuIauvB4nuD65onrRT__ehqkrYMBIds8Uu_EW0OYA/edit?hl=en_GB&authkey=CJHsxb4G\\
Seth Greene: Sorry, Dave. I just am seeing your note. Will speak louder from now on.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: I think Adigo increased your volume while you were talking Seth
Seth Greene: Thanks.
Seth Greene: I believe I quoted 2 hrs. for SF first WT session. Please note that Cheryl has corrected that to likely 90 min.
Dave Kissoondoyal: thanks a lot
Heidi Ullrich: No, WT C agreed on 2 hours for the Sunday session and 90 minutes for the Wrap-Up session, I believe
Seth Greene: Thank you, Heidi.
CLO: I agree Dev and particularly for the work pf THIS WT
Heidi Ullrich: sorry, 45 mins for the Wrap up...
CLO: I had it reversed then sorry 2 hrs OK
Seth Greene: Checked notes. WT C discussion agreed on 2 hrs Sunday and 45 min. for Wrap-Up, but ultimately up to ALAC, of course.
Heidi Ullrich: Yes, that is correct, Olivier
Heidi Ullrich: Thanks, Seth
Rudi Vansnick: +1
Heidi Ullrich: Point taken, correct, Cheryl!
Heidi Ullrich: May I say "tentative" agenda....
Heidi Ullrich: https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Defending+Consumers+on+the+Internet+-+Draft+2\\
CLO: Excellent Heidi :-)
Dave Kissoondoyal: I recommend to be printed and distributed to all ALS so that we can use in our outreach activities
CLO: Yes there needs to be a couple of edits to the App 2 as suggested some changes to current tense and details of NCSG and NCUC and the GNSO definition needs updating to show the 2 house structure leading to the other edits.
Heidi Ullrich: ok, will do
Heidi Ullrich: We could also add it to the Consumer Commons
CLO: the link to the revised COns Conct current is here https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12de7d5e0f2c1bda&mt=application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2\\
Dave Kissoondoyal: no further comments on my side
CLO: YES do add it to the consumer commons
Heidi Ullrich: We can make that an AI
CLO: AND if we can get something in say You tube style / iterview done for us to simply Poont busy people too would be good
CLO: OCL also need to recognise that the ICANN Web site IS recognised as erghhh amd they have a project to fix
Heidi Ullrich: Perhaps we could get a podcast with Olivier, Beau and Rudi?
Heidi Ullrich: Yes, re plans to update website are moving along
Heidi Ullrich: I've stressed the need to have a very visible link to the At-Large site from the ICANN homepage
Heidi Ullrich: Fixing broken links is an AI of IT from Cartagena
CLO: YUP scarry indeed
Heidi Ullrich: I do need to keep the pressure up on them...
Rudi Vansnick: was ICANN disturbed by what happened in Egypt perhaps ?
CLO: Rods blog Rudi
Heidi Ullrich: We'll fix the summit issues today, though
Heidi Ullrich: Thanks, Dev.
Rudi Vansnick: unmute issue
Rudi Vansnick: waw ... let us know Olivier how you did it ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2951129/New+ALACAt-Large+PAD+flowchart+%28Dec+2010%29_ver+6.pdf\\
Seth Greene: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2951129/New+ALACAt-Large+PAD+flowchart+%28Dec+2010%29_ver+6.pdf\\
Dave Kissoondoyal: thanks Seth
Heidi Ullrich: Time stops for PCs furing ICANN meetings - or at least it should.
Olivier Crépin-Leblond: before ICANN meetings there is sometimes a storm of PCs
Olivier Crépin-Leblond: last minutes
Heidi Ullrich: Yes, that is due to the deadline for posting of docs to be discussed during Meetings
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: Before Policy is available for comment : https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2951129/Before+policy+is+available+for+comment+(chart+seg)_ver+3.pdf\\
CLO: and again we need to recognise posative changes being proposed here not only as I outlined by ATRT recommendations but ALSO with things as basic as us (ALAC and At-Large) being better intergrated into Policy dev earlier i.e. the new open WG model in GNSO 9INCLUSIVE OF lIAISON ROLES ETC.,) currently under final review from draft form
Chris Grundemann: apologies, I am being requested in another meeting
CLO: Sorry V+CAPS
Seth Greene: Bye, Chris.
Heidi Ullrich: Thanks for joining, Chris.
Rudi Vansnick: bye Chris
CLO: and yes any extention from any one HOLDS up the next step in the process by staff so is often limited by reporting requirements and timings drawn from meetings (CO or Bpoard that are needed to consider the results of a PC => goes to better prioir planning from the global ICANN perspective etc., again noted in ATRT report and fits with what Dev is speaking of now
Rudi Vansnick: maybe trying to have our liaisons highlighting this
CLO: Dev we can respond to that point 8.3. . . that the CURRENT state pf the PPC AND the ATRT report looks to these issues
Rudi Vansnick: ok
Heidi Ullrich: Dropped, dialing back in
CLO: All done for today THANKS all
Dave Kissoondoyal: thanks Dev and a;ll
Seth Greene: Thanks, Dev and everyone.
Dave Kissoondoyal: bye
Rudi Vansnick: thanks all and till soo