Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the EURALO Monthly call on Tuesday 12 December 2017 at 19:00 UTC
Gisella Gruber:Welcome Salve from ISOC Norway, newl ALS!
Yrjö Länsipuro:Velkommen Salve, velkommen Norge til Euralo!
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All!
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Salve J. Nilsen:Hello to all from Tromsø, Norway (ISOC Norway Chapter) \o/
Tatiana Tropina:Hi everyone.
Clement GENTY:Hi everyone
Clement GENTY:Greetings from Paris !
Matthias Hudobnik:hello all :-)
Wale Bakare:Hi all
Tatiana Tropina:Roberto, you are not muted...
Lianna Galstyan:Hi everyone
Tatiana Tropina:there is a terrible echo
Tatiana Tropina:Some people were not muted
Salve J. Nilsen:The echo was from Roberto, I think
Erich Schweighofer:Sorry for being late.
Gisella Gruber:@ All - if you would like a dial-out, please do send me your contact details
sandra hoferichter:Leadership Programme no "Training" any more:)
Tatiana Tropina:Is CW on the call?
Gisella Gruber:No CW on this call
Tatiana Tropina:yes we can hear you
Lianna Galstyan 2:yes
Salve J. Nilsen:I hear you
Tatiana Tropina:Let RIPE people goooo (music)
Silvia Vivanco:At-large Policy Advice Development page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_alacpolicydev_At-2DLarge-2BPolicy-2BAdvice-2BDevelopment-2BPage&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=y4Su-D487YLaNAOygo87znLFQLX0D0fP20R_PPjoTDA&s=10lS3KH9GpTOH7DhTh5Fh7TOl5WPI1tDzwibw4MTq9Y&e=
Tatiana Tropina:Jurisdiction is Bastiaan and me
Gisella Gruber:Fiorella Belciu has joined the adobe connect
Erich Schweighofer:Jurisdiction ... and me
Silvia Vivanco:At-Large Workspace: Competition, Consumer Trust, and Consumer Choice Review Team – New Sections to Draft Report of Recommendations: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D74584041&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=y4Su-D487YLaNAOygo87znLFQLX0D0fP20R_PPjoTDA&s=HaOeSvDX3kJbexuR1LorJ_06BiTOsai3V-Js8nUf7Zs&e=
Silvia Vivanco:I noted it as AI, and will check on the previous PC
Heidi Ullrich:@All, we are checking with ARiel on why the statement closes on the 2nd when the PC closes on the 8th
Heidi Ullrich:sorry, the submission is the 2nd of January when the PC closes on the 8th.
Silvia Vivanco:Operating Standards for ICANN's Specific Reviews: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_alacpolicydev_At-2DLarge-2BWorkspace-253A-2BOperating-2BStandards-2Bfor-2BICANN-2527s-2BSpecific-2BReviews&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=y4Su-D487YLaNAOygo87znLFQLX0D0fP20R_PPjoTDA&s=epn3whtVXWSohxq41bJTu2bapfrslPEGn_pqYDIJmqs&e=
Gisella Gruber:Christopher WIlkinson has joined the AC room
Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier/Annette, staff will ask Alan to allow a few more days on the Competition, Consumer Trust and Consumer RT draft report statement
Silvia Vivanco:EURALO Board Electionwiki page :https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EURALO_EURALO-2BBoard-2B2017-2D2019-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PqnmlD10aN3cxIHyiUf_hNf25P6Dsv7dJM6flBzRrBs&m=y4Su-D487YLaNAOygo87znLFQLX0D0fP20R_PPjoTDA&s=I0L7VdKad6tdRnm3kq8R90H11vtRFFlwM66vhSvCEb4&e=
Heidi Ullrich:We look forward to EURALO comments on the Public Comment :)
Silvia Vivanco:rules as cited by Olivier: 1. The size of the EURALO Board will be 5 members, plus ex-officio, the EURALO Chair and EURALO Secretary;2. There should be a maximum limit of 1 Board member per country; 3. Each EURALO At-Large Structure will be given 5 votes that they will need to cast on 5 people;4. As is the usual custom in votes involving people, votes will take place by secret ballot;5. The Board will be selected for a two-years-term; and as a novelty: not performing Board members can be recalled after one year to allow to be replaced by better candidates.
Erich Schweighofer:Rules should not be changed during elections but the topic needs better solutions as now.
Annette:Agree.
Erich Schweighofer:Right, Olivier.
Anne Marie Joly:no change during the elections is a good choice
Roberto Gaetano:Erich - How comes you can express your concept in a few words and I need 5 minutes? I need to have some training from you!!!
Tatiana Tropina:Because no one changes rules like that - I think it's the firt time I fully agree with Erich :-)
Tatiana Tropina:normaly I disagree in nuances
Matthias Hudobnik:how can we do that :-)
Silvia Vivanco:Votes shall continued then
Clement GENTY:Just right on the mic and ear logo
Wolf Ludwig:Same here Tanya and Erich
Wale Bakare:+ 1 to Anne
Heidi Ullrich:@OCL, please could you state the rules to be followed on this vote?
Roberto Gaetano:I am happy with keeping the current procedure, but I believe that we need to tackle the issue soon, well before the next elections
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Olivier, I would like to repeat that, according to rules currently applicable (provided by Silvia above), ''2. There should be a maximum limit of 1 Board member per country;'' which implies that the restrction per country only concerns the members of the Board, not the candidates.
Annette:agree with J-J: of cause their can be more candidates
Christopher Wilkinson:JJS: +1
Wale Bakare:Please, Staff can we know the total number of people who voted " For" and "Against" ?
Anne Marie Joly:I desagree because of equality between each candidate to get vote. the number of electors could be different for each candidate in the same country
Wale Bakare:Sure, I understand
Wale Bakare:just wanted to know
Wolf Ludwig:To be precise: in France we have currently 3 ALSes -- ISOC-France, e-Seniors and TAC
Clement GENTY:@Wolf, Yes thank you, I counted Individual user association as a French one.
Wolf Ludwig:The EURALO Ind. Assoc. is a / the only cross-European ALS -- based BTW on Swiss Assoc. rules ...
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Clément and @Wolf: EURALO Individuals' Association is a not a country-specific ALS.
Clement GENTY:Yes
Silvia Vivanco:Staff noted Stephane's withdrawal
Wale Bakare:I think, there is a mis-understanding about Individual Users' here
Wolf Ludwig:I think, it was made claer by JJS and me that EURALO Ind. Assoc. is a cross-European ALS!
Lianna Galstyan 2:Sorry everyone, I need to leave for another meeting
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you for visiting us Lianna!
sandra hoferichter:2019 not 2018
Annette:2019
Christopher Wilkinson:Good evening. I shall leave the call soon. I have posted a comment to the List about Geo-Names. ALAC needs a policy statement.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Good evening and good night! I have leave this call now.
Wolf Ludwig:What a sad story with our Studienkreis applications!
Yrjö Länsipuro:@Chris +1 about policy statement
Tatiana Tropina:Does ALAC have a common position on WT5? I really have to recuse myself from this discussion as am a GNSO councillor but I seriously disagree procedurally with some of the CW statements
Tatiana Tropina:GNSO PDP *shall* follow the GNSO PDP rules, including discussion and consensus rules. We GNSO don't come to you to ALAC to demand our rules for your advice giving processes
sandra hoferichter:not only newcomers are invited to the LP
sandra hoferichter:this programme also needs experienced leaders
Tatiana Tropina:so witha risk to voice an unpopular opinion here -- how do you know that it's interest of the end users? May be interest of end users is a free registration of geo names and let all the flowers grow??
Yrjö Länsipuro:@Tatiana: There is no common position, but it would be good to try to achieve one...even a bare bones one
Annette:great, thank you Olivier
Tatiana Tropina:@Yrjö - this is what am saying
Tatiana Tropina:the both sides should be considered
Tatiana Tropina:and please -- I will stand firm that GNSO PDP rules should be questioned
Tatiana Tropina:yeah we are unfortunately at the end of this meeting!
Tatiana Tropina:I raised my hand still ut leave it up to OCL to decide if I have a word
Gisella Gruber:Andrei Kolesnikov has just joined the call
Wolf Ludwig:Please come closer Sandra ... :-)
Annette:@sandra, are you in China?
sandra hoferichter:that is propably tru OCL
Wolf Ludwig:I think Jimy Schule was an ALAC newcomer and participated in the Leaderships program in Buenos Aires in November 2013 ...
Wolf Ludwig:Sorry: Jimmy Schulz
sandra hoferichter:I lost audio completely. It is on my side. I say good bye here to all!
Tatiana Tropina:send me! (joke)
Tatiana Tropina:just to make everyone fainting that GNSO councillor was sent as ALAC
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Sandra: only on your side yes
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:bye
Clement GENTY:Thank you Olivier !
Tatiana Tropina:thansk everyone
Erich Schweighofer:Servus and see you in Geneve
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Salve!
Salve J. Nilsen:Greetings from ISOC Norway o7
Wolf Ludwig:See you in Geneva!
Silvia Vivanco:Servus Erich
Matthias Hudobnik:bye bye and see you in geneva
Silvia Vivanco:Happy Holidays !
Wale Bakare:Thanks, bye
Wale Bakare:!
Anne Marie Joly:bye
Annette:bye bye
