Yesim Nazlar:Welcome to the ALAC Finance and Budget Subcommittee Call on Thursday, 18 January 2018 at 17:00 UTC

  Yesim Nazlar:Agenda: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_DgO8B&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=qCV47thYDRCksldJ5ULIBTIkk_hdjElueJP5kvhHgzc&s=lgsWRi6Oto0jFKPytcRTPF1Y-J0cwL3ZnydNimRBBC0&e=

  Mohamed El Bashir:Hello Yesim

  Yesim Nazlar:Welcome Mohamed!

  Mohamed El Bashir:Hello Cheryl and Olivier

  judith Hellerstein:HI All

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hi

  Wale Bakare:Hello everyone, good morning/afternoon/evening

  Glenn McKnight:howdy

  Glenn McKnight:Been up since 5 due to a cold, amazing how much you get done by 12

  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All

  Glenn McKnight:Setup my Amazon Echo Dot.  Video Door Bell,  Starting my indoor seeds under lights, Had a 8 am call with our  IEEE Tanzania project

  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all

  Glenn McKnight:Hi Silvia

  Glenn McKnight:Folks i will see Dev and his new baby on Tuesday. I will send pics around

  Glenn McKnight:Will be speaking on B lockchain for Social Good at the IGF TT

  judith Hellerstein:I have seen some pictures. What  acute baby

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):great Glenn

  Glenn McKnight:Echo dot is pretty cool.  

  Glenn McKnight:Installing a smart lock and light switches too

  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All, we have 4 At-Large requests and 13 RALO Requests. This is quite a reduction

  Heidi Ullrich:Eduardo is joining

  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Eduardo

  Eduardo  Diaz:Thnaks

  Yesim Nazlar:Welcome Javier!

  Maritza Aguero:Hello everybody! I am at the dial out

  Javier Rua-Jovet:excuse my tardiness

  Mohamed El Bashir:1 Workshop request for AfRALO

  Wale Bakare:4 from EURALO

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:sounds like a good number of people

  Glenn McKnight:obviously we will compromise

  Glenn McKnight:you can go down but not up

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:especially when we don't even know of there will be an IGF in 2018

  Maritza Aguero:LACRALO fisrt time has applied for IGF

  Glenn McKnight:No workshops have been called

  Maritza Aguero:we send two proposals in time

  Glenn McKnight:We can list them

  Glenn McKnight:we can do modify the proposal to include  the list of workshops

  Maritza Aguero:list of workshops could be fine?

  Glenn McKnight:No MAG acceptance yet on proposals

  Maritza Aguero:because it depends in acceptance

  Glenn McKnight:mean workshops

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:The MAG has not even convened yet

  Maritza Aguero:+ @Glenn

  Glenn McKnight:Its unreasonable  Mandy's request.  Given they have not called for workshops.  We can list them

  Glenn McKnight:proposed topics only

  Glenn McKnight:not approaved

  Heidi Ullrich:The thought is that the theme is much the same each year, so you can already identify the topic you'd like to have

  Glenn McKnight:I stress that we don't have approved workshops only topics

  Glenn McKnight:As to  outreach. the  100+ leads are being followedup

  Heidi Ullrich:@All, the them is much the same. It is similar to an academic conference. If it is a good workshop with a solid topic and speakers ,it will likely be approved

  Glenn McKnight:I would not assume that.  We don't know the theme yet

  Glenn McKnight:We can list the workshops.   Lets  remember the proposal  is more that speaking but a serious  outreach effort

  judith Hellerstein:I cannot identify speakers until I know the theme

  Glenn McKnight:i know  Judith but they are not listening

  Glenn McKnight:All we can do is put forward the ones approved from last year

  Glenn McKnight:yes

  Javier Rua-Jovet:yes

  Javier Rua-Jovet:yes we hear

  Glenn McKnight:@Heidi  you are ignoring the other part of the ALAC proposal which is more amplified outreach in a serious manner

  Glenn McKnight:@Tijani is a double bind

  Heidi Ullrich:@Glenn, I'm not there yet. :)

  Glenn McKnight:Thanks  Heidi

  Eduardo  Diaz:Agree with Olivier. details can come later..

  Maritza Aguero:Got an approval IGF proposal is not easy

  Wale Bakare:+Olivier

  Wale Bakare:+1 Olivier, i mean

  Glenn McKnight:Sounds reasonable  we can add updates later

  Maritza Aguero:+ @Olivier

  Bastiaan Goslings:I agree with Olivier

  Glenn McKnight:As  Oliver states  its not sales but its  raising awareness first

  Glenn McKnight:It takes  some time to close a sale

  Bastiaan Goslings:and if your proposal is solid then there is no need to worry about a very generic 'theme'

  Heidi Ullrich:@All, the requests will need to note the workshop's general topic.

  Glenn McKnight:I have been chasing people for 6 months for ARIN since Oct

  Glenn McKnight:it takes time

  Glenn McKnight:don't expect  instant signup

  Maritza Aguero:@Baastian - it dependes on the MAG requierements

  Maritza Aguero:and criterias

  Maritza Aguero:It was difficult to reach diversity for an specific topic

  Ali AlMeshal:@Heidi , what will be the time frame to get back to you with update ?

  Glenn McKnight:We can do that,  Not sure why Maureen  didn't do it .   2  each is fine  

  judith Hellerstein:On the outreach but not on the ralo

  Glenn McKnight:I stress that  the  ALAC  person must  volunteer at the booth

  judith Hellerstein:no need for ALAC person on the ralo proposal

  Glenn McKnight:Maureen was great

  Glenn McKnight:NARALO asked for all its  print material for  Spanish

  Glenn McKnight:NARALO volunteers will do the translation

  Glenn McKnight:We have a mailcard and a new brochure

  Glenn McKnight:BTW  too bad i don't have any LACRALO brochures for the IGF TT,  I didn't have any in Geneva

  Mohamed El Bashir:so whom will consildate the communications/awearness requests ?

  Mohamed El Bashir:Thanks Heidi

  Glenn McKnight:Mailcard and brochure printing only

  Glenn McKnight:correct  Judith

  Javier Rua-Jovet:+1 printing in Spanish

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:should we max out our comms budget in FY18 then, for printing, if we do not have printing in FY18?

  judith Hellerstein:+1 seems to be  agood idea

  Eduardo  Diaz:+1 printing in Spanish

  Heidi Ullrich:All ALSes have wiki pages hosted by ICANN

  Wale Bakare:It hosted by ICANN accredited registrar

  judith Hellerstein:I think there are plenty of places that can do this for you for free

  Silvia Vivanco:EURALO Individual users website: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__individualusers.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=qCV47thYDRCksldJ5ULIBTIkk_hdjElueJP5kvhHgzc&s=efVjCfcAHPmH4W0oKGwtx8aKIbz5ERuxeRGu1nxtkl0&e=

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Staff have refused to manage the site

  judith Hellerstein:and so just have volunteers in that gorup to do it

  judith Hellerstein:I agree with alan

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:individuals have heir own mailing list in the EURALO region

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:they have their own calls. Their own Web site. they own leadership and coordination.

  judith Hellerstein:I would say give them a wiki page

  judith Hellerstein:good idea

  Heidi Ullrich:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BFY18-2BSpecial-2BRequest-2BImplementation-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=qCV47thYDRCksldJ5ULIBTIkk_hdjElueJP5kvhHgzc&s=sIMoT70OmkAWebcTNsZCTfpWSr5gD4lyR7aLgz9pDE0&e=

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@judith: you want to replace a whole Web site with a Wiki page?

  judith Hellerstein:The ALSes in naralo just have a wiki page and not a website

  judith Hellerstein:naralo as the ralo has a website, just as euralo does but the individuals and als do not

  Ali AlMeshal:I totaly agree for the increase while I also under the assumption it is core

  Eduardo  Diaz:@Alan: I asked the same question about CORE. It is confusing. Judith explanation makes sense but they should not use CARE if that is the case.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):very odd

  judith Hellerstein:It maybe irrational but that is what they told us

  Eduardo  Diaz:CAre= COre

  Eduardo  Diaz:It is very confusing.

  Glenn McKnight:I think Judith was trying to explain it best she was berated

  judith Hellerstein:Thanks glenn. Alan should not have dismissed my idea with such objective langauge

  judith Hellerstein:it was just what i was told

  Heidi Ullrich:We have two LACRALO requests to review

  Glenn McKnight:It came across  differnetly

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that is how I took your comment Alan

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:It makes no sense whatsoever to make separate requests for the same thing

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:only in ICANN is a Joint request understood to be taken on by only one of the parties. Really.

  Heidi Ullrich:We have 10 more mins

  Silvia Vivanco:Maritza would like to speak

  Heidi Ullrich:@Tijani/Alan, should we invite Xavier to the ALAC call?

  Heidi Ullrich:We are running out of time to submit

  Silvia Vivanco:she is not on AC room

  Javier Rua-Jovet:+1 Heidi

  Eduardo  Diaz:It seems to me that what Alberto is requestion is help with Adobe coonnect services to do what he is requestiing plus a mediator and interpretation. Sund to we that he wants to pout togeteher a webinar

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not next week

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Maritza wants to speak. Probably o Alberto's request.

  Silvia Vivanco:yes just to call your attentioon that Maritza wants to speak

  Ali AlMeshal:can you hear me

  Javier Rua-Jovet:yes now

  Bastiaan Goslings:I need to go

  Bastiaan Goslings:thanks all, ciao

  Javier Rua-Jovet:bye bastiaan

  Heidi Ullrich:@Maritza, I only saw one IGF request from LACRALO

  Heidi Ullrich:We haven't gotten to the meeting request

  Glenn McKnight:Idid attached it

  Heidi Ullrich:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BFY18-2BSpecial-2BRequest-2BImplementation-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=qCV47thYDRCksldJ5ULIBTIkk_hdjElueJP5kvhHgzc&s=sIMoT70OmkAWebcTNsZCTfpWSr5gD4lyR7aLgz9pDE0&e=

  Glenn McKnight:Heidi   i sent the IGF  Report a second time. in WOd and PDF  again

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye 👋 for now then...

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Thanks to all

  Wale Bakare:Thanks all, bye

  Javier Rua-Jovet:bye

  Ali AlMeshal:bye all

  Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong:bye


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