Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the Rules of Procedure Working Group call on Monday 18 June 2102 at 1900 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/qQAQAg
Eduardo Diaz:Hola Gisella!
Gisella Gruber-White:Ola Eduardo
Rudi Vansnick:hi all
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hi. everyone
Yaovi Atohoun:Hi Cheryl
Carlton Samuels:Hello everybody
Gisella Gruber-White:Reminder - if in the Adobe and on the aduio bridge, please mute your computer speakers
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello, everyone!
Eduardo Diaz:What's the code to mute the audio bridge from my side?
Carlton Samuels:@Eduardo: Try *7
Carlton Samuels:Yes, I'm here
Eduardo Diaz:@Carlston - good. And to unmute?
Carlton Samuels:@Eduardo: try *6
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:*6 to mute ; *7 to unmute
Rudi Vansnick:Is Sandra (Hoferichter) on the call ?
Eduardo Diaz:@Carlton - tooloud!
Carlton Samuels:Aahhhh, the other way round! Thanks Dev!
Rudi Vansnick:it sounds like he is in an empty space
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Jacqueline M is in traffic so may be a few minutes late
Darlene Thompson:I'm on the telephone bridge and getting no sound AT ALL
Darlene Thompson:Should I hang up and try again?
Silvia Vivanco:Now we can hear
Rudi Vansnick:i'm on the audio bridge
Carlton Samuels:On the voice bridge now, thanks Operator
Gisella Gruber-White:We have background noise - PLEASE mute your microphones!
Gisella Gruber-White:Please MUTE your MICROPHONES
Eduardo Diaz:It looks like Carlston has his microphone unmuted.
Heidi Ullrich:Sorry to those who were on 1638...
Heidi Ullrich:We are now dialing 3535...
Jacqueline A. Morris:Hi - I'm sorry for late arrival - ended late in the studio. The adobe connect audio seems to be working great, so I'll stick with that in stead of te adigo call... thanks
Eduardo Diaz:I have difficulties hearing Cheryl.
Eduardo Diaz:There is still background noise in the bridge.
Heidi Ullrich:Meeting summary minutes from last meeting: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure+WG+28-05-2012+Summary+minutes+EN
Gisella Gruber-White:We have someone with a very LOUD microphone - PLEASE mute your microphones when not speaking
Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you Carlton!
Carlton Samuels:Speakers + AC microphone muted
Jacqueline A. Morris:exactly, CLO
Darlene Thompson:Yes, CLO - I am not seeing the word "member" in rule 1 at all.
Jacqueline A. Morris:it's im the bylaws
Alan Greenberg:JAM, which "Bylaws"
Darlene Thompson:This group is dealing with the Rules of Procedures and today's call is starting with Rule 1.
Jacqueline A. Morris:AlAC member deffnition is defined in ICANN bylaws, so shoud be taken from that
Jacqueline A. Morris:not re-done by this group
Carlton Samuels:@Alan re approach to RoP reorg process: +1
Eduardo Diaz:I was under the impression that we did rule no1 in a previous call. Am I mistaken?
Jacqueline A. Morris:+1 to approach as well
Jacqueline A. Morris:yes, I thought wwee did as well
Carlton Samuels:Ex-Com under Operations!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes I agree Carlton
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:in SECTION. 1
Jacqueline A. Morris:cas +1
Carlton Samuels:Ex-Com was an operational requirement!
Jacqueline A. Morris:AG - +1
Natalia Enciso:Hello! Sorry for being late. I was in a meeting.
Natalia Enciso:Gisella, I will need a dial-out please.
Heidi Ullrich:Jose dropped. Adigo is dialing him back.
Gisella Gruber-White:Yes Natalia
Heidi Ullrich:Holly, you still have your hand up. Do you have another question?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:please let me know when any one put hand up
Natalia Enciso:Fatima sends her apologies. She had an inconvinience.
Heidi Ullrich:Alan has his hand up
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Natalia - thank you for Fatima!
Holly Raiche:Just a comment. Alan and I were named as a drafting team - Now that we have 4 teams, is that still the case?
Carlton Samuels:@About layer: This one must largely reflect the ICANN bye-law-defined ALAC
Heidi Ullrich:Wiki sign up wiki pages: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Definition+and+Structure+Drafting+Team+Workspace
Matt Ashtiani:ALAC Rules of Procedure Working Group- https://community.icann.org/x/VoYi
Holly Raiche:Fine - from what has been said, it will be a high level recommendation as to structure and what is there - not drafting at this stage
Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Workspace - Metrics sign up
Natalia Enciso:on the call now. Thanks Gisella.
Jacqueline A. Morris:I'll go for sec1
Heidi Ullrich:Rop Process - https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Process+Drafting+Team+Workspace
Cintra Sooknanan:I feel the same as Alan, I wish to work in all the WG. It's important to have a view of the rules as a whole
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I,d be shocked if you and me/OCL were not across them all
Rudi Vansnick:Alan-1 and Alan-2 will be in Prague ;-)
Eduardo Diaz:@Alan: That happens when you are everywhere (ja!)
Carlton Samuels:I will hold a watching brief across all but most definitely in the Operations layer
Jacqueline A. Morris:i'd love to, but will be in nomcom meetings a lot, so don't want to say I can and not be able to fulfill
Jacqueline A. Morris:so i'll take just group 1
Eduardo Diaz:Please include me too eventhough there is someone from NARALO already
Eduardo Diaz:Process will be great!
Heidi Ullrich:Will do, Eduardo.
Jacqueline A. Morris:fficially, and follow the rest... can I put myy 2cents in even though I am not in the sub-group officially?
Darlene Thompson:I would like to participate in all, too.
Heidi Ullrich:We are adding volunteers in real time. Please refresh the pages
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Darlene
Carlton Samuels:@Work Team: When I say Operations, I mean DUTIES & Metrics + Process!
Gisella Gruber-White:Jose has disconnected - dialling out to him
Matt Ashtiani:ALAC Rules of Procedure Working Group- https://community.icann.org/x/VoYi
Cintra Sooknanan:My hand is up for ALL
Rudi Vansnick:@Heidi: you may note my name for the drafting team
Jose Arce:Thanks Gisella
Gisella Gruber-White:Jose is back
Gisella Gruber-White:Please state your names when speaking
Darlene Thompson:Section 2 is my main area of interest.
Gisella Gruber-White:The interpreters do NOT know who is speaking when overlapping conversations
Darlene Thompson:The rest I will just follow.
Heidi Ullrich:One is a sub-section. All pages exist
Cintra Sooknanan:please add me
Heidi Ullrich:Rudi - is this the Drafting Team you'd like to sign up for: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Cintra.
Heidi Ullrich:I'll add you to all
Carlton Samuels:For the record, Staff please add me Duties & Metrics Work Team PLUS Process WT!
Yaovi Atohoun:I can also be in the Definition and Strcuture Draf.... Team
Rudi Vansnick:Heidi - i would join the first one, Definition and Structure, maybe if no-one from Euralo pops up i would be candidate for thisone too
Matt Ashtiani:cintra, to confirm, does that mean you wish to be added to all of these teams?
Matt Ashtiani:@rudi, thank you! you have been added to the page
Heidi Ullrich:Rudi, you would like to be part of two groups?
Rudi Vansnick:Heidi: if we do not find someone else from Euralo, i'm willing to do so
Rudi Vansnick:i hope Sandra will participate also
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Put me in for Duties and Metrics
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Dev
Heidi Ullrich:We're adding you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:great, I'll put my hand down
Jacqueline A. Morris:Not to say we should keep it, but in most every meeting in T&T and in breakout groups has a rapporteur, and it's got very particular duties - mainly summarising the sub-group work and reporting back to the plenary. Never realised it was such a complicated thing in other cultures...
Yaovi Atohoun:Please I am disconnected.
Yaovi Atohoun:Listening through my computer speakers when waiting to be called back
Alan Greenberg:@Jaq, I presume that you "rappoorteur" is what it is normally in the rest of the world, that is womeone who reports back on the actions of the group. Is that correct?
Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi, Adigo is dialing you back
Yaovi Atohoun:I am back
Jacqueline A. Morris:yep i thought that is what it was in excom as well...
Darlene Thompson:Just to let you all know - I have a hard stop at the top of the hour.
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Darlene - thank you for notifying us
Carlton Samuels:@Jacqueline: In my experience this person operated most like the parliamentarian, which is to say advising the main group whether an issue is in their remit to address
Alan Greenberg:Nope. The name cme from the UN rules where it eant just that. Inour case, it was never meant to be that function.
Alan Greenberg:eant = meant
Alan Greenberg:It was a name in search of a purpose.
Jacqueline A. Morris:OK...
Yaovi Atohoun:Can join if the two groups are not working at the same time
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:dropped from the call - sorry
Gisella Gruber-White:@Olivier - we are dialling you back
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The refreshed page at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Duties+and+Metrics+Drafting+Team+Workspace has myself and Carlton
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can still hear via Adobe Connect
Carlton Samuels:@Alan: When I was Rapportuer, that was how we operated, starting with the development of the process that looked at the Announcements
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks
Eduardo Diaz:Can we have some music in the mean time?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the new offices at ICANN appear to have communication problems
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Olivier - we are still trying you
Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier is back
Natalia Enciso:Sorry, have to go now. Lot of work before travelling. Will look up in the wiki and sign up for the groups later. Thanks.
Holly Raiche:Can e join at a laer time?
Matt Ashtiani: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure+Drafting+Team+Workspaces
Eduardo Diaz:@Olivier: I have the same concern.
Carlton Samuels:This is a situation where you work with whomever shows up for WORK!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup especially IN Prague
Carlton Samuels:@CLO: Populating with names won't cut it for work!
Eduardo Diaz:It will be a good idea to select who is going to lead what.
Eduardo Diaz:That will define priorities for some
Carlton Samuels:Anyhow, we are used to only a small cadre doing the real work. Let's forget the "numbers for optics" posture
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:true but as long as ee all know that 1 how we are carving it up and 2 ensure that there are all Regions represented in each DT
Eduardo Diaz:Alan +1
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:+++++1 Alan
Carlton Samuels:@Alan: I say again, +++++1!!
Matt Ashtiani:a table with all volunteers has been added to the room. please note that you should be able to scroll through this PDF as it is not synced.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:as long as we're all clear about the workload
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:remote participation would be able to join a particular "breakout" group?
Carlton Samuels:@OCL: Absolutely! Just that the workload don't change if we have "numbrs for optics"!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:you need to feed your dogs less food
Gisella Gruber-White:Jose Arce had to leave the call
Holly Raiche:Now we know who to blame!
Heidi Ullrich:11 is the lates
Heidi Ullrich:t
Heidi Ullrich:Olivier has his hand up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we have to go through ICANN legal
Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+27+June+2012
Heidi Ullrich:See you in Prague1
Carlton Samuels:Thanks, one and all!
Carlton Samuels:See y'all soon\
Jacqueline A. Morris:Thanks - see you in Prague
Rudi Vansnick:thanks and bye for now
Heidi Ullrich:The meeting starts immidiately after a coffee break. Feel free to bring your coffee with you!
Silvia Vivanco:Good bye all
Eduardo Diaz:adios
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:bye all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:THANKS all see you (even virtually) soon
Yaovi Atohoun:bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yaovi see if you can muster some more AfRegional input to the DT's
Yaovi Atohoun:Sure .Going to talk to my colleagues
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