Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC ExCom call on 23 November 2011
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:hi, Gisella. No call yet.
Gisella Gruber-White:on its way
Heidi Ullrich:Hello everyone!
Gisella Gruber-White:Rinalia - we are dialling back to you
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I'm in!
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Evan
Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, the interesting hours are part of the bonding process ;)
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:of course, Heidi! ;)
Evan Leibovitch:Hi all.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Hi, Evan!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:No additions for me.
Heidi Ullrich:15 Nov ExCom AIs:https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/ALAC+ExCom+15.11.11+Action+Items
Sebastien:OK Olivier
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Whichever option works faster and most effective to get us moving!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Agreed.
CLO:Sorry the AC room did NOT wan't to load for me had to re-start
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Cheryl!
Evan Leibovitch:the wonders of threaded mail readers :-) they're life savers
Gisella Gruber-White:NPOC - all confirmed now with attendees so Doodle will be going out today with options for next Thursday and Friday and early the following week
CLO:On the wind-up of WG's matter *please note* it is MORE than a bandwidth issue it is a matter of the order of things nomenclaturre and some templating has been discussed and now need actioning.. Then it goes to next stepo it as an AI should be not only the lower priority that it is but marked as IN PROGRESS and will continue like that until later on (whicch IS the bandwidth matter) it need be reviewed each meeting but marked for a progresss report to ExCom in Meeting #43 later planning and report to ALAC AT the next F2F meeting => NOTE I have said this several times before
Evan Leibovitch:Next steps... limiting ourselves to two-syllable words.
CLO:Alan arued and ytou agreed that the Exec Sum is a THING people would auto read BUT the Public Particiaption guidelined already adopted ICANN wide saiys ExCo's must be used in formal docs ( along woth other formating
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Cheryl. Good point
CLO:the Exec Summary is a thing that like the staff cover page should just exist
CLO: thinkl of it as a synopsis if that helps you
Sebastien:Maybe if it short name this doc an executif summary
CLO:yes of use the Synopsis / abstract appraoch
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:For purposes of information searches I agree with Cheryl that we need an abstract/exec summary label.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Label the one pager as Exec Summary.
CLO:Not all that different to the ist link on a oage rule in google searches
CLO:should read 1st link
CLO:it is also going to come up again in ther template AI
Evan Leibovitch:Of course, there should be a general goal to try to copy-edit docs to make the *entire* documents more suscinct. There's a lot of fluff, and sometimes things that are introductions (ie, the history of how a doc was made) are better places as appendices
Evan Leibovitch:Tom and Dick, sure. Not sure about Harry.
CLO:perhaps you can title your cal for EoI's endorsed by the Regions to the regions
CLO:cal = Call
CLO:no good having a person NOT supported by the region' that can happen of course should be an AI ON each RALO meeting
CLO:corret Tijani the WT recommendations was to shift from 5 ALAC Meembers from Geo regions and to ADD 5 RALO reps
CLO:no n= 10 Members
CLO:2 per GEO Region/REALO and 50% ALAC 50% RALOs for At-Large
CLO:this IS a matter of ALAC Improvements Implementation BTW
CLO:NOT a suggestion
CLO:it IS what if IS
CLO:as Tijani saiys
CLO: NO onkky 0
CLO:10
CLO:5 + %
CLO:5+5
Evan Leibovitch:wanting is one thing. fulfilling is another. even if it is a requirement, WG population is a challenge unless you just want people listed by name who don't show up
CLO:plus others can be 'on the list in the wikis in meetings as observers
Heidi Ullrich:I need to step away for a few minutes, but will remain on the call
CLO:The repopul;ation is ONKY required as people have left the ALAC
CLO:or were serving for the ALAC and now no longer belong etc.,
CLO:
CLO:it is NT repopulating a WG os is perhaps best thought od being an APPOINTMENT to this SC and in this SC there are SKILLS required
CLO:it is also specific to several of the points in ALAC Improvements implementation
CLO:utalise them in OTHER WG's there is only a few (in this case 1) Sub Cimmittee
CLO:he also requeste the B&F SC
CLO:Ganesh that is
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:That should be stated on the staff call for volunteers in WGs etc.
CLO:it is one of the reasins we have appointment of "ALAC leads / liaisons to WG's to ensure there is always some ALAC leadership in ALL WG's but of course WG's are not limited to just 1 ALACer in each WG
CLO:WG's deliberatly need more inout from RALOs and ALSes and Rank and file ALS or RALO membership where a RALO has Individual Membership) as well as being OPEN to ALL 'in theory' at least
CLO:So sorry about my typos at this hour I do literally type in the dark and I'm a lousy typer any way ;-)
CLO:at least in Skype chat I can correct in AC it is always an error made is there for all time ;-(
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Is it possible to consolidate action items? They are repeated because we review them based on dates of meetings.
CLO:Yes that would help Rinalia and in fact the new listing method for AI's will get this as an 'easier to do' matter as well IMO
Heidi Ullrich:I'm back at my computer.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:For future meetings could we just review the consolidated list of AIs?
CLO:be a plan yup and would help shorton main ALAC meetings as well
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:question about next ALAC calls?
CLO:I also have a suggestion as to how it can be made easier to track in the what is happeining on the wiki spaces and what is in the open for comments management system
Gisella Gruber-White 2:Yes
Heidi Ullrich:Gisella will send the calendar
CLO:for example your (ALAC's) methods have changed radically over the last few moinths so needs to be properly integrated
Heidi Ullrich:I think G will be able to do it before the end of the call!
Sebastien:I maybe cut
Sebastien:I am ;)
Heidi Ullrich:Would you like a dial out?
Sebastien:no
Evan Leibovitch:That's already the case.
Sebastien:I am back
Sebastien:Any ex-IDN liaison?
CLO:Yes we have Seb
CLO:in ascii as well we have => we can say we have NO objection to the paper AND pour support is consitant with ALAC advice previously made in other TLDs
Heidi Ullrich:ALAC Statement on the Draft Final Report on Policy Aspects Regarding Introduction of Single Character IDN TLDs:http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-03jan11-en.htm
Heidi Ullrich:All previous statements are listed under the Correspondence tab
Heidi Ullrich:http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
Evan Leibovitch:I am personally opposed to three-letter ccTLDs
Evan Leibovitch:(in latin script)
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:i'm hearing echoes
Sebastien:for .info
Evan Leibovitch:olivier, you just went all spacey
Sebastien:http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-201003-en.htm#info
Heidi Ullrich:Sebastien, your line has been muted
CLO:noted Evan but we were talking gTLD's here ( as .ASIA is a g TLD
CLO:yes it is the 2nd level issue here as we did in the case of .INFO
Sebastien:ALAC didn't comments for the same topic on .info, .cat;
Sebastien:.biz no comment
CLO:Rinalia we can raise this in the APRALO call so that HOLLY os a Regional Rep in the whois WG
CLO:that solves the issue both ways ;-)
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:ok!
Sebastien:And the 2 people members from the Whois RT?
CLO:it is not just the WG it is the response to the PC Evan
CLO:yes which is why she wiill be oerfect for it
Heidi Ullrich:ALAC Agenda from 22 November:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+22.11.11+-+Monthly+Teleconference
CLO:as log as it does not disinfrqnchise the WHOIS WG which we already have formed and takes inti account list activities discussions recent and past etc., etc.,
Evan Leibovitch:I recommend penguin-based computers.
CLO:log = ling in the above point of mine...
CLO:erghh log = ling = LONG * sigh*
Sebastien:Tijani it is not yet setup
CLO:that is quite an assumotion Evan
CLO:that he has gone t the componant parts of ICANN
CLO:I HOPE he has but\
CLO:so it all went into lost in translation a bit as well
CLO:Ohhh yes
CLO:this could be very messy indeed (Rgionally speaking)
CLO:Give it your best shot...
Evan Leibovitch:the AFRALO neeting was able to be held -- in part -- thanks to the sacrifice of other RALOs. I would not assume continued and ongoing sacrifice
CLO:In LACRALO was VERY soecific on that Evan when they gave their sacrifice / support
Evan Leibovitch:Perhaps we should be more strategic and consider pushing harder for Summit II
Tijani:Yes Evan, and all AFRALO ALSes are thankful of the EURALO and LACRALO,
Evan Leibovitch:The only thing overlooked is that we are now at 2hrs
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Got cut off.
Evan Leibovitch:@Tiani... I was not meaning to elicit thanks, so much as to emphasize that the sacrifice was a one-time effort and cannot be relied upon to be repeated.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:It will not. We have made it clear in the past
CLO:this matter is impoertant to Rinalia and SHE has been discinnected
Evan Leibovitch:I am OK with staggered times to share ther pain
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:are we talking about meeting time?
Evan Leibovitch:yes
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I'm ok with the time.
Gisella Gruber-White 2:I got cut off
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Friday?
Heidi Ullrich:Please let us know how Friday looks
CLO:2100 - 2300 UTC often works for meetings in my experience
CLO:gets AP in (OK
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:thanks everyone!
CLO:is G looking to all these drop outs with the teleconf providor?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:There certainly are more dropouts than there ever were in the past
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so many people got dropped yesterday it was like watching snow fall
CLO:seems ti be in a bqd oatch for a number of our calls 9INCLE NIN alac ONES)
CLO:INCLUDING NON ALAC ones
CLO:last week was bad to for other WG's
CLO:hmmmm
Sebastien:Yes I can confirm CLO
Sebastien:Take care
CLO:ok at 0342 signig off then
CLO:bye
