When: Wednesday, 23 October 2013. 16:00 UTC / This is a 120 Minute Session.
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Attendees:
Griffin Barnett – IPC/IOC
Jim Bikoff – IPC/IOC
Elizabeth Finberg – RySG
Alan Greenberg - ALAC
Catherine Gribbin – Red Cross Red Crescent
Stephane Hankins – Red Cross Red Crescent
David Heasley – IPC/IOC
Judd Lauter – IOC/IOC
David Maher - RySG
Christopher Rassi – Red Cross Red Crescent
Thomas Rickert – NCA –Working group chair
Greg Shatan – IPC
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - ISO
Apology:
Ricardo Guilherme – RySG / UPU
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
Joanne Teng - WIPO
ICANN Staff:
Berry Cobb
Mary Wong
Julia Charvolen
Proposed Agenda – IGO-INGO WG Meeting – 23 October 2013 @ 16:00 UTC (120 Mi
1. Review Agenda & Changes to SOI’s
2. Status and Review of Public Comments
3. Review Work Plan
4. Confirm next meeting, 30 October 2013 @ 16:00 UTC
Berry Cobb:Welcome to the 23 Oct 2013 IGO-INGO Conference Call.
Alan Greenberg:Can't afford to miss call if we don't have quorum??
Alan Greenberg:If we don't have sufficient attendance the call is rather moot.
Alan Greenberg:On now, but can't speak for the moment.
Greg Shatan:I am on the phone line and on here.
Julia Charvolen:Please mute your mic if you are not speaking
Julia Charvolen:thank you
Julia Charvolen:Griffin Barnett joined the meeting
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Shall we suggest changes to recommendations by email?
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):I disagree. Unless we don't change the recommendation blocking acronyms
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):knowing the level of "divergence" is going to be crucial.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Since it was really consensus against.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):The better solution of course will be to change the language of the recommendation.
Elizabeth Finberg:I apologize for being late.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Agree fully
Greg Shatan:That is one way of dealing with the misleading "divergence" level of consensus....
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Thank you Thomas.
Alan Greenberg:Greg, is there another way within the bouns of the approved list of statuses that we have to work with?
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):I had originally understood that minority positions would not be published as recommendations, but included as minority statements. That not being the case, we now have this sticky issue. But we can agree with Thomas to address this once all comments have been received. (However, since many external public comments are indeed against acronym blocks, it’s natural to make a note about it for further discussion.)
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Agree fully with Thomas and Alan
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Yes, indeed. Thanks Berry!
Greg Shatan:@Alan, to answer your question above, It could be called Minority View. But perhaps that requires the opposite viewpoint to be stated as Consensus, SSBSO or Divergence....
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):It's our first time in a working group, but not a first time reading such comments. We appreciate this form!
Greg Shatan:@Claudia (2 above): They are only listed as minority statements (see page 37 etc. of Report). Nonetheless, we should be more clear that there is no significant support for a clawback process.
Greg Shatan:I do like this format. Thanks for all the hard work to distill these.
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Yes.
Julia Charvolen:Christopher Rassi joined the call
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Well said
Alan Greenberg:Again the word "recover" alsoth the repetitiveness of these comment have the smell of a letter-writing campaign.
Alan Greenberg:alsoth - although
Greg Shatan:Yes, some astroturfing going on here. Hardly the first time. :-)
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):We have nothing to add Thomas. That sounds quite right.
Berry Cobb:Thank you all!
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Thank you Thomas! And All!
Mary Wong:Thank you all, bye!
