Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, David McAuley, Kate Wallace, Kavouss Arasteh, Malcolm Hutty, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner (7)
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer (2)
Apologies:
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Agenda
1. Admin/SOI;
2. Reminder of working collegiality;
3. Status of timing issue and plan for conclusion (see note (1) below);
4. Furthering help for SOs/ACs on establishing Standing Panel (see note (2) below);
5. Joinder Issue (see note (3) below);
6. Challenges to consensus policy issue (see note (4) below);
7. Segmenting certain issues (see note (5) below);
8. Remaining work plan
Raw Captioning Notes
Please note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call
Documents Presented
Decisions
- Group will wait for impact analysis from ICANN Legal on Repose (due within two weeks) with the objective of coming to a consensus decision on the meeting following the receipt of this analysis.
Action Items
- SE – to provide impact analysis to IOT within two weeks.
- SE – Provide final EOI and expected timeline prior to releasing.
- DM – Post new proposal on Joinder issue to the list.
- DM – will be using the proposed template to move a number of issues for closure on the list.
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer:Good day and welcome to IOT-IRP Meeting #19 on 27 April 2017 @ 19:00 UTC!
Brenda Brewer:If you are not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). To unmute press *6. Thank you!
Kavouss Arasteh:Dear David,
Kavouss Arasteh:If the number of participants are less or equal to 5 ,except the Chair, we must canvel the meeting after administrativa
Kavouss Arasteh:There is one Kavouss Arasteh and not 2
David McAuley (RySG):I am 4154
Kavouss Arasteh:Who is xxxx4154? PLS
David McAuley (RySG):that is me
David McAuley (RySG):I hop[e we don't cancel Kavouss but take your point
Kavouss Arasteh:tHEN YOU HAVE BEEN REGISTRED TWICE LKE ME
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:hello all
David McAuley (RySG):Hi Sam, waiting a couple of min for folks to arrive I hope
avri doria:i am double booked for this hour, so am half here.
David McAuley (RySG):that counts Avri, thanks
Kavouss Arasteh:Icann staff should not be countedi
Malcolm Hutty:Avri, haven't seen you here before, are you part of this group?
avri doria:yes, i am Malcom, sorry must have been too quiet of late.
avri doria:or were you suggesting i did not belong here. this is the IOT isn't it?
Kavouss Arasteh:David ,we are not more than 5
avri doria:Malcom, to make sure i just checked the membership page and i listed as #15
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Kavouss expectation at least 5 at 5 after
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:and we are 6
Malcolm Hutty:Glad to have you here.
avri doria:please forgive the mispelling of your name
avri doria:would charging for late clains consistent witht he approach defined in the bylaws?
David McAuley (RySG):I think so Avri but we would ned to explore
Malcolm Hutty:That would be a matter of judgment/opinion. In my view, no, because it undermines the purpose which is that people bring and resolve their disputes. But this is a matter of opinion, rather different from the bare issue of repose, which Sidley advise (and I agree) is clearly inconsistent with bylaws
Samantha Eisner:Just to note, ICANN has already provided its position that there is nothing in the Bylaws that is inconsistent with or bars consideration of repose.
Samantha Eisner:We recognize, though, that is not the end of the conversation
David McAuley (RySG):agreed Sam but your further thoughts 'proposal' would be welcome
Samantha Eisner:Yes, understood
Samantha Eisner:Understood, David. We'll work more quickly
Kavouss Arasteh:David, pls kindly repeat what Sam said
Samantha Eisner:Thanks David
Samantha Eisner:David, are we clear on the EOI from the IOT standpoint?
Samantha Eisner:yes
Kavouss Arasteh:Yes .I agree and thank you and Sam
Kavouss Arasteh:Very good and thanks Sam
David McAuley (RySG):I believe the IOT has finished with comments on EOI and will mention it on this call
Kavouss Arasteh:Sam' s Suggestion seems to be good as it helps some , if not all, SO and AC
Samantha Eisner:Great point, Bernie
Samantha Eisner:@Bernie, we've already tried to kick off that work with policy
Kavouss Arasteh:iF THERE IS NOT TIME LIMIT ,THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THERE IS NO NOMINEES
Kavouss Arasteh:Sorry for Cap
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:time Check - 25 minutes left in call
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Sam thanks this is my point
Kavouss Arasteh:Dacvid
Kavouss Arasteh:What do you mean by potential harm
Samantha Eisner:Agree that Amicus is different. I would assume that an Amicus would not have all rights of other parties
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Time check - 10 minutes left to the top of the hour - however we do have an extra 30 minutes if we want to use it
Samantha Eisner:It would have to be the Board's acceptance of the policy
Samantha Eisner:or ICANN implementation of that policy
Samantha Eisner:Agree, David. There has to be some tether to ICANN Board or staff action
Samantha Eisner:+1 Malcolm
Samantha Eisner::)
Kavouss Arasteh:David+1
Samantha Eisner:The appeal is also part of the Bylaws
Samantha Eisner:Section 4.3(w)
Samantha Eisner:Requiring teh IRP provider's invoice dates might not be something that the IOT could implement without agreement from the IRP provider
Samantha Eisner:"materially affected" is also in the Bylaws
Kavouss Arasteh:Sam +1
Samantha Eisner:There are emergency practice standards that the arbtral panel has in place outside of our Bylaws or these rules
Samantha Eisner:Also see the definition put in at 4.3p on interim/emergency relief
Brenda Brewer:4 May @ 19:00 UTC
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:bye all
avri doria:yeah that is one i see. brief calls like this one? bye all
Brenda Brewer:Thank you all for joining today's meeting!
