Zoom chat: 2021-03-10 At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)

08:48:21 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome to the Consolidated Policy Working Group Call
08:52:33 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
08:54:21 From Adrian Schmidt to Everyone : thank you!
08:57:52 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Hello all, welcome
08:58:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yup and I gave a 0100 Prep week webinar so my start was a tad earlier ;-)
08:59:59 From Bill Jouris to Everyone : That's why we move around. This summer's (your winter) ICANN will be on European time, so I will be the one doing Grave Shift. :-( Hopefully it balances out.
09:04:08 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
09:05:57 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Olivier
09:07:00 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FhuRPVDoe9-SMctb9PggBB49UNQWewoz0JI8kjLvgXc/edit
09:07:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Re Alan's draft for EU I would think with Justine's edits it should be good to go once trimmed to the character limit
09:07:21 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone : sorry fo being late
09:07:24 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone : phone not working
09:11:16 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : To note, the GAC has requested at least 3 members to the new GNSO Transfer PDP.
09:11:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : I think participation is merited
09:11:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : maybe a reserve as well @JZ
09:12:25 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone : @ JZ - Thanks for raising this Transfer Policy issue.. I would like to report to Philippe at our SOAC meeting directly after this meeting
09:12:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : As the main group will be industry and US centric likely to be unfriendly times for Holly
09:12:54 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : happy to join holly on this if this would be helpful.
09:12:56 From Roberto to Everyone : Agree, we should - even if our focus is not just registrants, but the wide user community - the transfer has an impact also on users in case something goes wrong
09:13:01 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Thank you Holly and Joanna, noted
09:13:47 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone : Great - I will pass on these two names !! :)
09:13:54 From Steinar Grøtterød to Everyone : I can join the Inter Registrar Transfer Policy group. I have experience as registrar and registry operator
09:14:14 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Sounds great, thanks so much Holly!
09:14:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Team approach is important YEs... and the ALAC needs to appoint them as representatives *assuming the Representative model is settled on by GNSO COuncil
09:14:24 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone : Three names.. excellent
09:14:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yes indeed !Alan
09:14:54 From Ephraim Percy Kenyanito to Everyone : +1
09:14:56 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Alan is right - it is a bit complex
09:15:06 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Homework is my middle name @Alan
09:15:11 From Justine Chew to Everyone : I didn't think the call for volunteers has been made yet. Instead I thought it's at the point where the PDP structure - representative - and whether interest exists for ALAC to participate. Agree with Alan, need REGISTRANT interest.
09:17:43 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : Despite an objection from Jeff Neuman
09:17:52 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : The original Transfer Policy was in 4 parts - IRTP-A - IRTP-D
09:19:01 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Thank you Cheryl
09:19:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : That is the take that the Small Team has taken Yes @JZ
09:19:23 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : We should not be shy about asking for 3 real seats.
09:19:26 From alberto soto to Everyone : Hi everyone, Apologize for being late
09:19:39 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome, Alberto
09:19:48 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : If we can fill them....
09:20:07 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Still, people with REGISTRANT interest will be important.
09:20:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Maureen something is writing would be appreciated on this
09:20:22 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone : Thank you team.
09:21:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Agreed @Justine!!!
09:22:05 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Absolutely agree with Greg - having sat through earlier meetings of this issue- there should be ALAC at the table
09:22:07 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yup could be that high @Greg, and no this is a bias to 1 model of process under PDP 3.0
09:22:49 From christopher wilkinson to Everyone : @Greg - MSM agree.
09:23:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Well noted @Alan in fact I felt the relationship beween At-Large and Industry improved after the last 4 parts of the TP PDP last time
09:24:52 From Justine Chew to Everyone : I agree with Alan also, and maintain that our reps should be folks who have a keen REGISTRANT interest.
09:25:27 From Justine Chew to Everyone : From looking at the scope for this PDP.
09:30:03 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : The IOC got what they wanted....
09:30:23 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : So they are no longer participating to the best of my knowledge.
09:32:21 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Thank you, Carlos and Yrjö
09:32:51 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : As a participant in the first IGO/INGO RPM Group, I salute you....
09:33:21 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : I like when Alan goes first
09:37:13 From Justine Chew to Everyone : @Alan, @Hadia, what are the chances the EPDP Phase 2A's work term will be extended?
09:38:53 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Hadia’s
09:39:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : inaudible
09:40:48 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : unless we are making significant progress there is no chance
09:41:06 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : (Thumbs up)
09:41:23 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Sounds drastic @Alan! please don't
09:41:45 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : not at all
09:42:34 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Noted Justine, thank you
09:42:37 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : we are trying though to mention NIS2 in our legal questions to B&B
09:44:59 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : thanks Cheryl
09:45:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : It is a solid and stable Doc in my biased view Yes @OCL
09:47:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : the to SubPro PDP part can be appended IMO (if you choose to forward with the Statement once ratified) but the ALAC would benefit from the association at the very least IMO
09:48:20 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone : Knowing the Board response to large documents, I wonder whether we'll need to make a summary of the ALAC advice as a preamble to the document that Justine has drafted?
09:48:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Exec Summarry should do @OCL
09:48:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Summary
09:49:17 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Could we have a link to the sub-pro advice doc pls
09:49:39 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Lol ok
09:49:43 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Agree with JZ
09:50:21 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Re: the SubPro googledoc, the ALAC Advice runs currently from page 1-12 while the already submitted ALAC Statement for the SubPro Final Report runs from page 13 onwards.
09:50:31 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone : Show your PDF?
09:50:47 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Thanks Justine. I keep losing track of it
09:53:25 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : It was Laurin, fyi, that made recommendations for cutting.
09:58:21 From Justine Chew to Everyone : @OCL, @CLO, noted on suggestion for an exec summary to the ALAC Advice -- I shall only attempt that once I know the document is 95% settled.
09:59:25 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Would this not be one _working_ day though @Alan?
10:01:15 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : If we translate to German, we can cut word count way down.
10:01:54 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone : you have done a marvellous job
10:01:54 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Happy to clarify if this would be helpful - I'd recommend for us to read the NIS 2 in the context of current EU law though. As in "publication" meaning making publicly available as opposed to being published in a newspaper. Standing by the comment as it though.
10:02:02 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Great Job - thanks and support the comments
10:02:06 From christopher wilkinson to Everyone : @Registries/Registrars, there could be a reference to the consequences of Vertical Integration;
10:02:31 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone : I did wrote my comment on the wiki page, did you notice?
10:02:37 From Marita Moll to Everyone : I think the doc. is great -- really clear. Maybe you can attach a link to a longer version
10:02:38 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone : I should say that you should include the document as an attachment as it is indeed supporting documentation
10:03:06 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : Yes, I do plan to include the full doc as an attachment.
10:03:39 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone : thnx
10:04:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Thank you @Alan
10:04:18 From Bill Jouris to Everyone : Maybe we could split up our comment into multiple comments, to get around the word count limit. Is there a way to find multiple subjects -- perhaps different sections?
10:05:54 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : Agreed.
10:06:35 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : I'm having computer problems but will be back shortly.
10:06:41 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : thanks Alan
10:10:52 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Not any more
10:11:19 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : I WAS on the Board and both CLO and I know the CEO of the ccTLD
10:12:09 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : That said - I agree it is an issue
10:12:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Ohh I missed that you no longer served with auDA Sorry Holly, you certainly are far more recent than my ancient service
10:12:52 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : Brexit is hard and hard Brexit is harder...
10:14:23 From Gregory Shatan to Everyone : Fascinating subject nonetheless
10:15:42 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : 5
10:17:14 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Thank you, noted
10:19:02 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : thank you
10:19:04 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Read NSA and CISA Release Cybersecurity Information on Protective DNS: https://www.nsa.gov/News-Features/Feature-Stories/Article-View/Article/2523771/nsa-and-cisa-release-cybersecurity-information-on-protective-dns/
10:19:48 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : thank you Evin for the link
10:20:48 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : 13L00 UTC
10:21:11 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : https://youtu.be/cHcunREYzNY
10:21:25 From Hadia’s iPhone to Everyone : bye all I need to leave
10:21:41 From alberto soto to Everyone : Thanks, bye bye!!
10:21:48 From Harold Arcos to Everyone : thanks all,
10:22:01 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone : Thanks and bye
10:22:36 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : Thanks and bye to all
10:22:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Bye for now then...
10:22:49 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Thanks
10:23:00 From Herb Waye Ombuds to Everyone : Take care everyone