Attendees: 

Sub-group Members:   Avri Doria, David McAuley, Becky Burr, Cherine Chalaby, Elizabeth Le, Greg Shatan, Kate Wallace, Kavouss Arasteh, Malcolm Hutty, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner

Staff:  Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer

Apologies:  

** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **

Transcript

Recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome, admin, SOI.
  2. Discussion of Two bucket approach.
  3. Discussion of repose process.
  4. Discussion of Types of Hearings – please see my email of Feb. 20 and Malcolm’s email of Jan. 3.
  5. Discussion on elements of an IRP claim – please see my email of Apr. 10 and Kavouss’s email of Apr. 10.
  6. AOB.

Raw Caption Notes*
*Note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call

Documents Presented

Decisions:

  • (none)

Action Items: 

  • SE – will distribute ICANN Legal proposal for two bucket approach for IOT to consider.
  • DM – Re Repose – will review captioning and post to the list on this topic.

Requests:

  • (none)

Next meeting:

  • Thursday 10 May 1900 UTC

Chat Transcript

13:48:43 From Brenda Brewer : Good day all! Welcome to IRP-IOT Meeting #37 on 3 May 2018 @ 19:00 UTC.
13:49:48 From Brenda Brewer : Today’s call will be recorded. Please mute your line when not speaking. Line cursor over your name and mute option appears for your line only. Same to unmute. Thank you.
13:53:50 From Brenda Brewer : Today’s Agenda:
13:55:29 From Brenda Brewer : 1. Welcome, admin, SOI.
2. Discussion of Two bucket approach.
3. Discussion of repose process.
4. Discussion of Types of Hearings – please see my email of Feb. 20 and Malcolm’s email of Jan. 3.
5. Discussion on elements of an IRP claim – please see my email of Apr. 10 and Kavouss’s email of Apr. 10.
6. AOB
13:59:24 From dmcauley : Hello everyone. If this goes as usual we will probably wait a few minutes past top of hour to start
13:59:46 From Cherine : Hi everyone
14:00:52 From dmcauley : Hi Kavouss - just said we'd start around 3 minutes past
14:01:36 From dmcauley : Brenda, my screen shows admin stuff like Meeting Topic, Host etc - is that right?
14:02:40 From dmcauley : I will speak up in a moment or two
14:03:02 From dmcauley : Thanks Brenda
14:03:35 From Brenda Brewer : Yes, that is normal before we get started.
14:03:58 From Greg Shatan : Hello, all.
14:04:21 From Robin Gross : Greetings!
14:05:21 From Bernard : hello all
14:13:41 From samantha : I think that we can still get direction to Sidley on the areas I mentioned now
14:17:28 From Bernard : Please lower your hand when you are done - thank you
14:20:13 From Bernard : Malcolm - hand
14:21:26 From malcolm : Surely only things that are agreed should be in the “done” bucket
14:26:10 From samantha : Final rules would always be determinative
14:26:20 From samantha : if the interim is overtaken, they could not apply
14:28:13 From Robin Gross : I don’t think we can change consensus because there wasn’t much participation. Did we do this in other subgroups?
14:30:23 From Arasteh : Pls descriobe the purpose and duration of repose
14:30:51 From Arasteh : I am not in favour of repose
14:32:35 From Arasteh : Please put the issue of repose to consensus
14:33:11 From Arasteh : I am agaist both notion of interim Rules and Repose
14:33:39 From Greg Shatan : My earlier support of the consensus on Repose still stands.
14:34:36 From Arasteh : David , pls put Repose to consensus building
14:35:40 From Bernard : 25 minutes left in call
14:36:13 From samantha : We do not agree with the characterization that Sidley’s position is that repose is against the Bylaws, and ICANN org is preparing a minority position on the repose issue
14:36:56 From samantha : Whether there is consensus or not, the removal of any outer repose time would require public comment, and we’d be comfortable from the ICANN perspective to just move to comment on this issue
14:38:24 From Bernard : will do
14:38:35 From Bernard : we have transcript
14:39:21 From malcolm : @Sam: “We also note that applying a strict 12-month limit to “as applied” claims is inconsistent with the Bylaws for the same reasons discussed above.”
14:39:33 From malcolm : Seems pretty clear to me
14:41:53 From Greg Shatan : Who is in the “No Repose” camp?
14:41:57 From Robin Gross : who are the new opinions saying no repose? I don’t think I’ve seen that.
14:43:32 From dmcauley : I am sorry but unable to keep up w chat, doing some serious couyghing
14:43:56 From dmcauley : 45
14:45:55 From Bernard : 15 minutes
14:45:59 From Bernard : left in call
14:47:32 From Robin Gross : I think we need to respect the consensus.
14:49:05 From Cherine : @David, I have to go. Cherine
14:50:57 From Bernard : Please note that the IOT is scheduled to have its next meeting in one week - Thursday 10 May 1900 UTC
14:51:50 From samantha : I believe that ICANN provided some conversation in response to Malcolm’s email on a prior call, and there has not been further reaction after that call
14:52:42 From Bernard : David order is Sam, Greg then Malcolm
14:54:38 From Bernard : Malcolm hand
14:54:41 From dmcauley : sorry Bernie - didn't see
14:55:33 From Bernard : 5 minutes left in call
14:56:41 From Avri Doria : need to leave now, will read transcript for the rest.
14:57:20 From samantha : Liz and I have to drop. We will review the elements email and provide any inputs on list
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14:58:34 From Brenda Brewer : Thank you!
14:58:50 From Robin Gross : Thanks for a good call, David!


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