Sub-group Members: Athina Fragkouli, Carolina Aguerre, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Fiona Asonga, Julie Hammer, Lito Ibarra, Lousewies van der Laan, Niels ten Oever, Olivier Muron, Pam Little, Rafik Dammak, Sebastien Bachollet, Sonigitu Ekpe, Taylor Bentley, Tijani Ben Jemaa (15)
Staff: Alice Jansen, Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Elizabeth Andrews, Mandy Carver
Apologies: Olga Cavalli, Finn Petersen
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p2yr65y9kvx/
The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/accountability/ccwg-accountability-diversity-subgroup-08aug16-en.mp3
1. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies
2. Welcome - Opening Remarks
3. Discussion of our mandate/remit and purpose as outlined by WS1.
4. Brief Presentation
5. Discuss the work plan
6. AOB / Next Meeting
1. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies
2. Welcome - Opening Remarks
3. Discussion of our mandate/remit and purpose as outlined by WS1.
4. Brief Presentation (Comments)
5. Discuss the work plan
6. AOB / Next Meeting
Brenda Brewer:Good day all and welcome to WS@ Diversity Subgroup Meeting #1 on 8 August 2016 @ 13:00 UTC!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hi
Rafik:hello
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed Rafik
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:hello all
Sonigitu Ekpe:Hello all!
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:All if you are not speaking please mute your miccrophone
FIONA ASONGA:Hallo everyone
Sebastien (ALAC):Bonjour à tous ;)
Lito Ibarra:Buenos días
Rafik:bonjour
Athina Fragkouli (ASO):hello all
Lito Ibarra:Buenos días
Lousewies van der Laan:Hi all
Niels ten Oever:Hi all !
Lousewies van der Laan:et bonjour Sebastien :-)
Niels ten Oever:Yes
Athina Fragkouli (ASO):yes we can hear you
Lousewies van der Laan:yes, but you dropped a moment
Lito Ibarra:Also my sund is delayed
Lito Ibarra:sorry: sound
Sebastien (ALAC):no more sound?
FIONA ASONGA:I lost sound
Lousewies van der Laan:cant hear anymore
Brenda Brewer:calling out to Rafik, please stand by
Brenda Brewer:If your phone number is listed, please idenify your name and I can then merge with your Adobe connection. Thank you!
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Please remember to mute you microphone if not speaking
Niels ten Oever:Do we have a rough background paper?
Niels ten Oever:because we should learn from other diversity policies
Niels ten Oever:we can also ask for input from other fora that have been working on this
Niels ten Oever:and what are we looking for in terms of scope? Diversity of staff, ICANN community, meetings? all of it?
Niels ten Oever:Maybe good to understand what we mean with diversity
Niels ten Oever:and what we are trying to achieve
Niels ten Oever:The presentation and research were very useful, but good to understand where we want to go. And what we use as indicators
Lito Ibarra:Is there also historical data about how diversity in ICANN has chamged thru time?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree Jule... we need that foundation to build upon
Sonigitu Ekpe:+1 to Julie comments on defining diversity.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):So true Julie I tried to raise the matter of different "needs" in my lightening talk
Lousewies van der Laan:Historical overview would also allow us to see trends - are more women attaining leadership positions? isthe ICANN community becoming less ANglo-Saxon?
FIONA ASONGA:Yes Cheryl you did
Niels ten Oever:I think there are quite some academics that could provide us with papers
Niels ten Oever:so we could edicate ourselves
Niels ten Oever:+1 having everyone define their own requirements will be messy
Niels ten Oever:and will mess up indicators
Niels ten Oever:One could think of geographic, gender, orientation, age, minorities, time involved, education, expertise, etc
Lousewies van der Laan:you mean political or sexual orientation?
Lousewies van der Laan:or soemthinhg else?
Tijani BEN JEMAA:language and culture diversity are key
Niels ten Oever:I was thinking of sexual orientation
Lousewies van der Laan:I think its key to have an atnmosphere that is open and inclusive, so that all minorities, including sexual ones feel welcome
Niels ten Oever:+1
Niels ten Oever:But how to measure that? Participation, right?
Lousewies van der Laan:but, its not necesarily needed to have membrs of the LGBT community in every leadership position.
Niels ten Oever:Depends on what we set as our objective
Lousewies van der Laan:Also, to some people thats a deeply private matter.
Carolina Aguerre:Hi Everyone, I'm sorry I could only join a few minutes ago. I look forward working with this team. I particularly agree that working and refining the issue of diversity in organizational settings is a very important baseline to move forward.
Niels ten Oever:There are different ways of measuring diversity, other than questionaires.
Niels ten Oever:I agree that self reporting should not be our only indicator on LGBTQI diversity
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):absolutly ley for us in ICANN IMO dhould be *inclusiveness, opportunity to participation (here I mean both minimal barriers and faciitation, and if course recognition of our desireed 'diversity objectives* for our componenet parts of ICANN and as a whole...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not so much *complex* but 'time consuming'
Carolina Aguerre:re Fiona / Rafik I think this timeline is feasible
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):so onger term
Carolina Aguerre:+1 Rafik
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):e may need to identify our "stages of work"
FIONA ASONGA:Great idea cheryl
FIONA ASONGA:Please explain abit more so thatw eare all clear
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Note that the first slot it 0500 and not 0600
Brenda Brewer:Also, 13:00 UTC, not 12:00 UTC
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Sopme groups have reserved until November so the number of slots is going down
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Please consult the master CCWG schedule on Google Sheet
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qwr41BesyvDQBnqF_gBQlHfJlRkOGrjHa26iFYU41ac/edit#gid=0
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone, bye for now... Good night Rafik :-)
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:bye all
Julie Hammer (SSAC):Bye!
Lousewies van der Laan:Thanks!
Carolina Aguerre:bye
Lito Ibarra:Thanks Rafik and Fiona, Bye all
Rafik Dammak:good night Cheryl
Rafik Dammak:bye al
Brenda Brewer:Thank you all for joining today's meeting. A follow-up summery will be sent to list.
Niels ten Oever:bye all