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12:28:43 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome, All.
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Hello everyone
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Hello Everyone
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Thank you Ullrich !
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12:33:03 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Good afternoon!
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12:38:07 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
can the admin please post the link to the wiki workspace
12:38:09 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
OFB Rec Prioritization Small Group workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/OFB-WG+Recommendation+Prioritization+Sub-Group+Workspace
12:38:24 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thanks @Heidi
12:38:41 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
You are welcome.
12:39:59 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
Just be impressed by it!
12:40:07 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thanks @Heidi, also where do we find the link to the slide deck?
12:43:20 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/186780446/FINAL%20At-Large%20ICANN73_Prioritization%20Session%20Master%20%28ALT%20texted%20Images%29.1%20%282%29.pptx?version=1&modificationDate=1646761193000&api=v2
12:43:39 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thanks Cheryl
12:43:40 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
It is in the At large agenda
12:43:57 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
ATRT3 = 3rd Accountability & Transparency Review Team
12:44:00 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
The presentation is linked to the agenda at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Tuesday%2C+08+March+2022
12:44:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
But we would prefer you LISTEN here not read it yourself now
12:45:19 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
the longer link above is to the actual presentation
12:46:16 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thanks Sebastien
12:48:45 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thanks Daniel
12:49:09 From DANIEL K. NANGHAKA to Everyone:
Your welcome
12:49:54 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thanks @Heidi, I was looking at the ICANN schedule
12:51:05 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone:
Thanks Hadia
12:51:17 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thanks @Judith as well
12:55:12 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
It was a CCWG
12:59:18 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
thank you Marita and Olivier
12:59:37 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
indeed a Cross Community Working Group
13:08:25 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
Yes, Siva. The next CCTRT will need to look at consumer trust in a wholly new environment
13:08:50 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
I am sorry. lost sight of the theme of this session for a moment. @Cheryl
13:09:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
NP @Siva an important question just not one for here and now
13:09:36 From Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Friendly reminder to please make sure notifications are turned off if you are taking the floor, thank you.
13:11:13 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
thank you Cheryl
13:12:31 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@jonathan the cc dimension of what happens without far outweighs what happens within the formal space.
13:13:48 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thank you Vanda
13:24:13 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thank you - informative indeed
13:24:29 From Yvette Guigneaux - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Loving the slides! =)
13:24:41 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Thank you
13:24:43 From Sherwood Moore to Everyone:
Yersd
13:24:48 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
yes Xavier
13:25:03 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
A great overview of the work that has been a weekly commitment by the small team for over a year.. thank you so much.
13:25:21 From KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse-ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
informative presentations indeed. Thanks everyone
13:25:32 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
+1 Maureen excellent overview
13:25:35 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Could you share here the link to the wiki? link on the slide doesn’t work for me
13:25:44 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Great presentation
13:26:22 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Today's sessions are posted here :
13:26:27 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Tuesday%2C+08+March+2022
13:26:36 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Great analogy -- walking through the desert @Xavier
13:27:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/OFB-WG+Recommendation+Prioritization+Sub-Group+Workspace
13:28:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
that is the opening page for the workspace
13:28:42 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
great indeed Xavier
13:29:39 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thanks @Cheryl
13:33:31 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
thanks Xavier always excellent presentation!
13:34:55 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I hope that was helpful.
13:35:15 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
How is a pilot organized? Is it like a simulation or a scaled down implementation, is it organized like "drop it if the pilot does not work" or as a definite first step? What are the usual timelines, and the scale of budgetary allocation for pilots?
13:35:33 From Roberto Gaetano - NextGen Mentor to Everyone:
It was @Xavier
13:35:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Definably so @Xavier
13:35:55 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
good questions @Siva
13:36:28 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Thank you Ahmad
13:38:02 From Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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13:38:56 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
like you build one of the rooms instead of the house, see if it is a good idea to build a house?
13:39:19 From Dave Kissoondoyal (Mauritius) - ALAC to Everyone:
Does the Planning Prioritization Framework is an on-ongoing process?
13:40:02 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
The pilot is going to look at a reduced scope to make it a bit easier (though that scope is “all board-adopted recommendations from reviews and is quite big). It will be a learning experience for all of us, and it will lead to refining the prioritization framework that will be carried out during the next planning cycle.
13:41:16 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
thanks for the explanation
13:42:04 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Why not go ahead with implementation with a built in reset button? That should make the organization far more efficient, and would surprisingly save costs, even if you count implementations dropped.
13:42:32 From Victoria Yang - ICANN org to Everyone:
Dave, the prioritization step will be part of the annual planning process starting with Fy24 planning. We recommend you to review page 16 of the draft framework: https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/ICANN+Planning+Prioritization+Framework+Project?preview=/44958981/186784272/Draft%20Planning%20Prioritization%20Framework%20Version%201%20Published%2028%20Feb%202022.pdf
13:42:56 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
@Siva Perhaps more like building one piece of furniture before starting on the whole house full.
13:43:01 From Victoria Yang - ICANN org to Everyone:
There is a process flow chart, hopefully that helps with the overall planning process understanding
13:44:14 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Becky’s blog on ICANN’s Draft Planning Prioritization Framework: https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/now-published--icanns-draft-planning-prioritization-framework-02-03-2022-en
13:45:25 From Dave Kissoondoyal (Mauritius) - ALAC to Everyone:
I do the share the same concern as Siva.
13:45:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Thanks @becky
13:45:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
take that as a comment
13:46:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Welcome @Giovanni
13:46:31 From Becky Nash (Org) to Everyone:
Thank you for your comments and we have made note of them.
13:47:46 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
@Siva -- The thing is -- there were in excess of 200 recommendations and tracking WAS required because the sheer complexity of ICANN makes it difficult to track. The Reviews are bylaw-mandated and are a key part of ICANN's accountability processes so it is great to see that there is now a proper process pipeline for them.
13:49:04 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Siva: the objective of introducing a process to prioritize is to improve the efficiency of ICANN’s work.
13:49:17 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
I second @Siva’s comment: taking too much time affects our flexibility and ability to address issues effectively on time - not to say it is easy, as @olivier mentioned
13:49:37 From Chokri Ben Romdhane to Everyone:
in all casses Review process should be independant from techincals sides
13:51:03 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@Olivier, it is all impressive, the amount of work done by the community and icann.org in these exercise is commendable -- truly commendable -- but there is something amiss, which relates to the time taken to go through al the processses, which mirror governmental processes that are endless
13:52:06 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
We have had an exercise to empower the community, may be we need one to empower staff and the Board, to empower them to make quick decisions, even if it amount to the org goofing up on half the year's budgeted spending.
13:52:13 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
in the interest of efficiency
13:52:59 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
The point is that these timelines are way too slow as against the ultra-swift pace at which new developments occur in the DNS and the global Internet
13:53:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Comments only at this stage
13:53:19 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
... even if it amounts to ...
13:53:49 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
that part of the comment is to say that we can
13:53:51 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
can
13:54:06 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
Olivier and Siva.. i believe consultation time is , in my view the most relevant time consumer but it is fundamental...
13:54:23 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
can't afford to lengthen the planning and oversight processes just to be sure that every penny is spent precisely.
13:54:42 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
I understand that the carefulness does not only relate to money.
13:54:45 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Agree @Siva. This seems to be a problem in most of ICANN’s constituencies! I’d say it should definitely be addressed by the entire community
13:55:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Time check
13:56:25 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@Vanda yes, consultation is paramountly important, but needs to be swifter.
13:58:22 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
Siva- mostly depending on us to agree to reduced time avoiding too short time but reducing the time extension- majority of contributions are made in first 15 days or never ...
13:58:44 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
thank Giovanni, Becky and Xavier
13:58:55 From Becky Nash (Org) to Everyone:
Thank you everyone
13:58:59 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
@Siva: the actual limitation is often the volunteer spare cycles. Volunteer overwork is a reality and hence processes often need to be paced. Especially when processes require public consultations etc.
13:59:00 From Giovanni Seppia (ICANN org) to Everyone:
Thank you
13:59:07 From Margaret Benavides-ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thank you.
13:59:07 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
CLO, you got the microphone back, but they seem to be muting you anywy off and on
13:59:11 From Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thank you everyone !
13:59:18 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thank you to ICANN org team
13:59:25 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
The ICANN ecosystem deals with nearly always new issues, and tries to find solutions and do so by involving all users (the community) across the world… Inevitably, that takes a lot of time and effort.
13:59:26 From Dave Kissoondoyal (Mauritius) - ALAC to Everyone:
Thanks Xavier, Becky and Giovanni
13:59:35 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thanks to all speakers and thank you Cheryl
13:59:52 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
That inclusivity sometimes may come in the way of efficiency… But it is a balance between inclusivity and efficiency.
13:59:53 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@olivier will continue on this with you after the meeting...
14:00:03 From Ahmad Aghar - ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
Thank you everybody!
14:00:04 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
Thank you At-large team
14:00:07 From Xavier Calvez - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thank you all!
14:00:07 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC-Participant) to Everyone:
bye all
14:00:07 From KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse-ICANN73 Fellow to Everyone:
thanks for yje session
14:00:09 From Chokri Ben Romdhane to Everyone:
Thank you @Seb
14:00:10 From Vanda Scartezini - Brazil to Everyone:
thankain
14:00:12 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Thank you
14:00:12 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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