Sub-group Members: Andree Brambilla, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, David McAuley, Erich Schweighofer, Greg Shatan, Herb Waye, Janet Shih Hajek, Margie Milam, Markus Kummer, Niels ten Oever, Robin Gross, Tatiana Tropina (12)
Observers/Guests: Collin Kurre
ICANN Org: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Elizabeth Andrews, Nathalie Vernolle
Apologies: Matthew Shears, Jorge Cancio, Anne Aikman-Scalese, Kavouss Arasteh, Rudi Daniel
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1. Administrivia - Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
2. Discuss draft document for submission to CCWG
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- Report and transmittal letter unanimously approved as a first reading by the participants present with the understanding that there will be an opportunity for participants to post a minority opinion statement. The rapporteur will communicate this to the list and all such minority opinion statements will be due in writing by the next call of the sub-group if they are to be considered for inclusion in the final report. The next call of the sub-group is scheduled for Tuesday 29 August 1900 UTC.
- NTO Post the above decision to the list today.
Brenda Brewer: (8/22/2017 13:38) Good day all and welcome to CCWG WS2 Human Rights Subgroup Meeting #31 on 11 August 2017 @ 19:00 UTC!
Brenda Brewer: (13:39) If you are not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). To unmute, *6. This call is recorded.
Brenda Brewer: (13:39) Reminder to all, please speak slowly and state your name before speaking for the Captioner.
Captioner: (13:53) Hello
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (13:57) hello all
Niels ten Oever: (13:58) Hi all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:59) hi
David McAuley: (13:59) I am 8222
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:59) Brenda I
Brenda Brewer: (13:59) Hey Cheryl, your phone should b ringing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:00) yep on and on mute
Markus Kummer: (14:02) Hello all
Greg Shatan: (14:05) Hello, all.
Andreea Brambilla: (14:08) Yes, I heard that too, David.
Collin Kurre: (14:08) This part was the only thing that stood out to me as well. Perhaps it should just be "the subgroup recognizes" without the "does"
Greg Shatan: (14:08) Agree with Collin's change above.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:09) agree with above
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:09) good change
David McAuley: (14:09) Subgroup recognizes is fine with me
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:09) +1
Niels ten Oever: (14:10) “these responses are not endorsed or supported by the representative ofSwitzerland who is member of this Subgroup”
Robin Gross: (14:10) I never got such dissent privileges when I disagreed.
David McAuley: (14:11) I agree w Greg's comment on proper protocol
Robin Gross: (14:11) I had to file a minority statement when I disagreed. That is the protocol.
Herb Waye Ombuds: (14:11) Sorry for being late
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:12) happy also to add annotation re Switzerland, but normally I would expect an appended Minority comment in the final report
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:12) as Bernie just outlines
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:15) exactly David
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:18) it is a consensus not a full consensus as I understand
Niels ten Oever: (14:18) Do you have the link to that document Greg?
Robin Gross: (14:19) I agree with Greg's analysis on how to treat this in light of our charter.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:19) yes
Collin Kurre: (14:19) To follow up on what Mark said in the last call, from the chat: "I'm observer listening - I would liek to consult internally and with Brazil and Switzerland."
Greg Shatan: (14:20) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.icann.org_display_acctcrosscomm_Charter&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kbiQDH54980u4nTPfwdloDLY6-6F24x0ArAvhdeDvvc&m=VkoeQ-UqSOR1oXwTFb72WG9rJR6337X8laMVNwG-yKg&s=LKRjw0AFTmHi9mlaqiF09MFMH-7N_rpoDWmOWnI9Pb0&e=
David McAuley: (14:21) Good point @ Cheryl
David McAuley: (14:22) ok - thanks B ernie. Then iof we go down minority report road let's ask for minoryt viewpoints within a set time - by first week in Sept for instance
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:24) hand
Robin Gross: (14:26) Does one need to be an official Member (rep of one of the SOAC's)? Or can any participant file a minority statement under our charter?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:26) I am as I said earlier happy with that approach Greg
Greg Shatan: (14:27) BTW, Mark Carvell is only listed as an Observer for this group. But that could be outdated.
Tatiana Tropina: (14:28) Hi all, terribly sorry for joining this call so late -- travelling on business
Greg Shatan: (14:28) I agree with Bernie that we should have 2 reading before Niels declares a consensus level.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:28) welcome Tatiana
Tatiana Tropina: (14:29) Cheryl, :-) thanks! *wave*
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:29) fine with that as well Bernie
David McAuley: (14:29) agree Greg and Bernie
Andreea Brambilla: (14:29) Sounds reasonable, Bernie.
Robin Gross: (14:29) +1
Tatiana Tropina: (14:29) from what I hear now, I agree too.
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:29) @Andrea - its the Canadian way...
Greg Shatan: (14:29) That sounds like a good way forward.
Andreea Brambilla: (14:30) :)
Tatiana Tropina: (14:30) what. I joined the call and it ends in 3 min???
David McAuley: (14:30) none here
Greg Shatan: (14:30) Bernie, you deserve a poutine for your troubles.
Herb Waye Ombuds: (14:30) Goodbye everyone
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:30) not from me
Collin Kurre: (14:30) Thanks!
David McAuley: (14:30) you are good luck Tatiana
Markus Kummer: (14:30) Bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:30) ð
Robin Gross: (14:30) Thanks Niels and all. Bye!
David McAuley: (14:30) bye
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:30) bye all
Andreea Brambilla: (14:30) Thank you!
Tatiana Tropina: (14:30) thanks all, bye
Greg Shatan: (14:30) Thanks for dropping in TT.
Greg Shatan: (14:30) Bye all!