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Andrew Sullivan: (14:04) This is just some background, but remember that the early network was _quite unreliable_, so you needed the phone numbers of other operators to be able to reach them
Andrew Sullivan: (14:05) I don't see where in RFC 812 it talks about responsibility and so on.
Andrew Sullivan: (14:06) there was a "request" from DoD that users so identify themselves
Andrew Sullivan: (14:06) where "request" was I've been led to believe a polite word for "or else"
Andrew Sullivan: (14:11) It's worth noting, though, that the reason that the data is all public is a technical flaw in whois as a protocol
Andrew Sullivan: (14:11) it wasn't designed for access controls and they can't be grafted on. So it's an all or nothing decision, and I suspect the policy has defaulted to "all" mostly because _someone_ wanted access
Andrew Sullivan: (14:12) just because someone wants access doesn't mean everyone should have it
Arshad Mohammed: (14:18) When we speak of RDS, are we talking about discontinuing WHOIS via Port 43?
Andrew Sullivan: (14:18) The RDS PDP isn't talking only about the RDDS, because it's making rules about what's collected as well as what's in the directory
Andrew Sullivan: (14:19) I strongly believe that whois on port 43 should go away
Andrew Sullivan: (14:19) it's broken
Andrew Sullivan: (14:21) For those intereted in the history, WEIRDS and the resulting RDAP was not the first try by the IETF to fix this.
Andrew Sullivan: (14:23) We've produced many alternative protocols, including whois++, rwhois, and IRIS (which came from the CRISP working group). Mostly they failed.
Yesim Nazlar: (15:07) Thank you for your participation. The meeting is now adjourned.
