Terri Agnew:Welcome to the NARALO Rules of Procedures Working Committee Call on Tuesday, 29 November 2016 at 22:30 UTC
Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_spXDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=YO4sdjJUBFx9h58uUhfm2X8mnU75akeEMssu71dsgM0&e=
Terri Agnew:to join on the telephone use Adigo Code: 3535
Glenn McKnight:Doc is sent
Glenn McKnight:Regrets from Seth Reiss and Judith Hellerstein
Glenn McKnight:Louis Houle no response
Alan Greenberg:I will be at the Westin as well.
seth reiss:No regets from me this time
Glenn McKnight:yes we got it Seth
Alan Greenberg:I'm on bridge as well now.
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Glenn McKnight:hi silvia
Silvia Vivanco:The Rules of procedures are an attachment of the original MOU
seth reiss:Logically, rules of proceedure should be consistent with the MOU in that the MOU is the constitutional document in regard to which the internal rules must conform
Silvia Vivanco:then the ROPs change in 2010..no changes to MOU
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome John More
Silvia Vivanco:@ all, the documents referenced in this discussion are hyperlinked to the Agenda of today's call
seth reiss:"code of conduct"
Glenn McKnight:I have the link in the above document
seth reiss:I think it is hard to say what was intended because it all happened in a few hours at a meeting in Puerto Rico, it was sort of pushed through quickly because of time and cirumstances
Terri Agnew:APRALO ROPs – 2014: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_D4ki&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=90o1VZsKw8EObEYgn2vrTfsst3CswFCp4ZP3c6VgiMg&e=
Glenn McKnight:33 articles for APRALO - More detailed on the decertification procedures
Terri Agnew:AFRALO ROPs – 2009: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mYEi&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=nQD5fQbAo4DYyGQNk_zB54EC19oBOH4uOypNCUsgtpg&e=
Terri Agnew:Operating Principles Review 2014: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_M8XhAg&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=AxMcGmhlE6r8owK1NzWzVtClj05mW8YPb3jcUC1vgl0&e=
Glenn McKnight 2:9 afralo
Terri Agnew:Task Force on Review and revision of EURALO by-laws: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_iAZ1Aw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=3Yw-XTe0pmx5GrCfryhfWeO_WskFhGBE9I19bglPHKM&e=
Terri Agnew: LACRALO ROPs 2007: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_cxDxAg&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=T4dMxU55hpOwXIcDCSGQ-jSIYHgKj8aO04eV8pgtZJc&e=
Glenn McKnight:I called in by ADIGO , muted mic on ADOBE
Silvia Vivanco:Yes each RALO will have complete freedom as long as it does not contradict the MOU
Silvia Vivanco:exacty Alan
Glenn McKnight:its a matter of execution
Silvia Vivanco:there is a hierarchy legally : 1) ICANN by-Laws 2) MOU with ICANN ALAC ROs, and Ralo ROPS
seth reiss:I have no problem with drafting rules of procedure with a view towards the MOU being modified, but I do not think you can have a rule of procedure that is inconsistent with a MOU provision that will be in place going forward
seth reiss:I have voice but you need to turn my mic on
Terri Agnew:Seth has audio at this time
Silvia Vivanco:what would be needed is to check that NARALO new rules don't contradict ALAC ROPs
Glenn McKnight:one sec Seith
John More:I support what Seth says.
seth reiss:I like simple, less work and more flexibility
Alan Greenberg:In general, all of the RALOs exceptAPRALO are at the same general level.
seth reiss:also consistent with North America being a common law and non-napoleonic territory
Silvia Vivanco:@ Seith correct, the legal drafting in Anglo saxon, common law countries tradition is different
Silvia Vivanco:and Civil law countries have a different type of legal drafting
Glenn McKnight:one sec Alan
Glenn McKnight:skeleton
Glenn McKnight:@silvia can you please add the document again
Silvia Vivanco:your google?
Glenn McKnight:Part Three suggestions
Glenn McKnight:Terry had it up
Silvia Vivanco:sure
John More:i fully agree that simplicityis better.
Silvia Vivanco:Terri is managing the AC she will post
seth reiss:but I forget a lot
seth reiss:I will review if someone else drafts
John More:Howabiout a draft by April and June for adoption.
Glenn McKnight:yes
Silvia Vivanco:Next call in January staff can send a doodle
John More:yes.
seth reiss:Your welcome
seth reiss:Thanks Glenn and others
Alfredo Calderon:Bye to all!