Sub-group Members: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, David McAuley, Erich Schweighofer, Greg Shatan, John Laprise, Kavouss Arasteh, Leon Sanchez, Markus Kummer, Niels ten Oever, Rudi Daniel   (10)

Observers/Guests:  Javier Rua-Jovet

Staff:  Brenda Brewer, Elizabeth Andrews, Karen Mulberry, Nathalie Vergnolle

Apologies:  Jorge Cancio, Andrew Mack, Anne Aikman-Scalese

** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to **




1. Administrivia Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc

2. Analysis and discussion on the progress of the drafting team working on the Human Rights Policy and Process Questions

       a.The policies and frameworks, if any, that ICANN needs to develop or enhance in order to fulfill its commitment to respect Human Rights

       b. Consistent with ICANN’s existing processes and protocols, consider how these new frameworks should be discussed and drafted to ensure broad multistakeholder involvement in the processand: Consider how the interpretation and implementation of this Bylaw will interact with existing and future ICANN policies and procedures.

       c. Consider what effect, if any, this Bylaw will have on ICANN’s consideration of advice given by the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC)

3. AoB

Notes: (including relevant portions of the chat):

1. Administrivia

Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc

    • Audio Only:  Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Kavouss Arasteh
    • Roll call will be taken from the AC room
    • No SOI updates.

2. Analysis and discussion on the progress of the drafting team working on the Human Rights Policy and Process Questions

    • Shared draft document in the AC room.
    • Link to Google doc: 
    • Greg presented an overview of the document:
    • Left-hand column has the additional points that we were asked to work on
    • The right-hand column has early draft of responses.
    • Not a lot of work has been done on this until now.
    • Seeking feedback on this initial draft.
    • Niels: This work is different from the work on the FoI.

      a.The policies and frameworks, if any, that ICANN needs to develop or enhance in order to fulfill its commitment to respect Human Rights

    • Niels introduced the section.
    • David McAuley: this may be a little bit broad. There are things we could suggest. 
    • Greg: We should identify policies or frameworks that need to be developed or enhanced.

      b. Consistent with ICANN’s existing processes and protocols, consider how these new frameworks should be discussed and drafted to ensure broad

multistakeholder involvement in the process


     Consider how the interpretation and implementation of this Bylaw will interact with existing and future ICANN policies and procedures.

    • Niels introduced the section
    • Greg: the questions and the answer don't really fit together. First have to answer the 1st question. Suggested implementations will have to be developed further downstream.
    • David: agrees with Greg.  Should develop HR Impact Assessment.
    • Erich Schweighofer: A full Human Rights Impact Assessment (HRIA) seems to be a very long shot at 

     c. Consider what effect, if any, this Bylaw will have on ICANN’s consideration of advice given by the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC)

    • Niels: wondering where this question came from in WS1
    • Greg: need to look into where it came from, but don't see a change needed. We may need to clarify our understanding of the point raised here.
    • David McAuley (RySG):  I agree w/Greg and implication of Niels question - not sure where this question came from but think the comment is a good one.
    • To summarize, this document is a good start. We need to clarify the definitions and our understanding of the questions raised.

3. AoB

  • Javier asking what areas of human rights this subgroup is focusing on. 
  • Niels: the subgroup is following instructions from the CCWG proposal, and now from the HR-FoI that was produced by this subgroup.
  • David asking that whenever we plan to do a reading, it be clearly noted in the meeting agenda.

Action Items

Documents Presented

Chat Transcript

Yvette Guigneaux:Welcome all to the WS2 Human Rights Subgroup Mtg #15 | 06 December 2016 @ 19:00 UTC!

  Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Competing with IGF is tough...

  David McAuley (RySG):dialing in now

  David McAuley (RySG):Brenda, I am 4154

  Greg Shatan:@David, you don't look a day over 3795.

  David McAuley (RySG):feeling it though, Greg

  Brenda Brewer:Thank you, David!

  Niels ten Oever:

  Brenda Brewer:Kavouss has joined by phone only.

  Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone

  Leon Sanchez:my apologies for coming in late

  Erich Schweighofer:A ful Human Rights Impact Assessment (HRIA) seems to be a very long shot at the moment.

  David McAuley (RySG):Hand down, I agree w/Greg and implication of Niels question - not sure where this question came from but think the comment is a good one.

  Greg Shatan:I don't mean changing the wording of the LH column, just fleshing out our understanding.

  Greg Shatan:I will delve into the document in "suggest mode" well before our next meeting....

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yeah I'm finally in the AC room...  Technology 1 CLO 0 this morning but I have been in support of the comments made so far by Greg and David

  Greg Shatan:Thank you, Niels, for leaving some "breadcrumb" comments in the Google doc.

  Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Thank You

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):great idea David

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):David means a clear. NT.  up top not hidden in perhaps a non read Agenda

  Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Old

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):excellent thx all bye for now

  Markus Kummer:Thanks and good-bye. Back to the IGF...

  Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Bye!

  David McAuley (RySG):Thanks Niels, staff and all, good bye

  Erich Schweighofer:Servus from Vienna.

  Niels ten Oever:Bye all

  Rudi Daniel:thank you very much

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