Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability held on Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 20:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/PwiAAw
Gordon Chillcott:I'll keep my theory to myself then . . .
Leon Sanchez:hello everyone
Kaili Kan:Hello, Everybody!
Terri Agnew:Action items 08 February 2016: https://community.icann.org/x/NgSAAw
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All.
Leon Sanchez:Progress!!
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA Stewardship Transition: https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg
Terri Agnew:Welcome Sebastien Bachollet
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA meeting regarding budget work and progress 09 February 2016 at 20:00 UTC: https://community.icann.org/x/QQeAAw
Terri Agnew:Welcome Seun Ojedeji
Terri Agnew:Next call: CWG IANA 18 February 2016 at 16:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability meeting 09 February 2016: https://community.icann.org/x/5Qh1Aw
Terri Agnew:Welcome Wafa Dahmani
wafa dahmani:thank you terri
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alberto Soto
Alberto Soto -IISI:Thanks Terri, Sorry for being late
Leon Sanchez:That is correct Alan
Leon Sanchez:Besides that, if ICANN happened to mission creep, then the EC would begin an IRP process I guess
wafa dahmani:@leon what EC stands for please
Leon Sanchez:@wafa EC stands for Empowered Community which is the way the community will be able to excercise the new powers it will have once the transition happens :-)
wafa dahmani:thanks
Leon Sanchez:Not for me at least
Gordon Chillcott:Nor for us.
Leon Sanchez:I believe we can ratify the recomendation as it stands
wafa dahmani:@leon since we are speaking about icann mission do you think that the content will never and could never be of its issue
Leon Sanchez:@wafa I think it shouldn't
wafa dahmani:@leon why
Leon Sanchez:@wafa any case of ICANN trying to regulate contente would be easily challenged by a community IRP under the new powers
Leon Sanchez:And as Alan is saying the mission is clear in its scope
wafa dahmani:okkey
wafa dahmani:thanks
Leon Sanchez:Thank you @wafa ;-)
wafa dahmani:@tijani :)))))
Avri Doria:they can still advice the procedure, but do not count for the decsion
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly Avri
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Is the ALAC going to vote on a recommendation by recommendation basis?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I hope the do OCL
Leon Sanchez:IN regard to Board removal, don't we would still have the power of doing so as Designators?
Leon Sanchez:I am really sorry but I fail to see the point of the concern expressed
Leon Sanchez:This only affects the decisional power of the GAC should there be a case of challenging a Board decision made in implementation of GAC advice
Leon Sanchez:How do we link it with Board removal?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I was speaking generally about lowering the threshold of any community power
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:these are extreme case scenarios. If the GAC advice is so outrageous that the communities reject it, they'll be unanimous!
Leon Sanchez:Compromise is the word
Leon Sanchez:I don't feel this should be reason for us to not ratify the reccomendation
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I note with amusement that just like the CCWG we are spending 99% of our time discussing issues which have so little chance of ever happening!
Leon Sanchez:Exactly Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:YUP!
Avri Doria:Any issues on who can submit a minority: anyone, any member, a chartering organiation, another organization, a minority of one peron ok?
Leon Sanchez:@Avri no issues, anyone should be able to file a minority statement I guess
Leon Sanchez:Cheryl is correct
Terri Agnew:We can hear you Sebastien
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:but of course ;-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:we can hear you very well Seb
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that was to Leon
Sébastien:Yes
Leon Sanchez:Indeed Cheryl :-)
Sébastien:Th elast exchange of mail is that the full doc will be send to the full ccwg on hte 12th
Leon Sanchez:I can, of course help with some of the recommendations Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:You could do that with one or two Dedicated topic calls of say 2-3 hrs
Avri Doria:does this group make a recommendation to the ALAC about accepting or not?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Avriball we can do is explain and influence I suspect
Avri Doria:ok, just curipus, i know that sometime group make recommendattions. i guess this is not that kind of group.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we can but try
Terri Agnew:Welcome Christopher Wilkinson
wafa dahmani:@ alan did you say that saturday and sunday we will focus only on ccwg ? and miss any other meeting outside ALAC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:It may be a L O N G aturday but doable *with* the pe prep
Alan Greenberg:@Waafa, that is what Sebastien and Tijani suggested.
wafa dahmani:@ Alan ok
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Surely you can manage your ALAC discussion with a no more than 2 interventions per person per topic (assuming topic will be at east each recommendation) and 10 min + 5-10 for interventions max shuld work
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:either a long Sat or a longish Sat and the Sun morning
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes agree with the chop
Avri Doria:was ALAC not invovolved in the comments onf Draft 3. If so, they should only need the deltas.
Avri Doria:and except for new ones should be up to speed.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:one can only hope Avri...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I would be happy to take Kali :-)
Heidi Ullrich:Current schedule: Saturday: Agenda: CCWG Proposal - Review of Proposal and Next Steps - Pt. 1 (14:00-15:45) Coffee Break (15:45-16:00) CCWG Proposal - Review of Proposal and Next Steps - Pt. 2 (15:45 - 17:00)
Alberto Soto -IISI:Yes, oly whith beer..
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we might also need more than 1 each also OCL
Leon Sanchez:+1000 to Alberto
Heidi Ullrich:Sunday: CCWG Discussion and Next Steps - Part 3 (15:15--16:45)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:SMall discussion groups are sometimes very helpful
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Maybe shift the Sun to an AM block not a PM one to allow for some flexaniliy if needed
Heidi Ullrich:Is the decision to not have any other items on Saturday and Sunday?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:AGREE OCL that could be a Sat effort
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and people feel less inhibited to ask questions that bother them, in small discussion groups
Christopher Wilkinson (CW):Regret donot expect tobe able to be at Marrakesh.
Terri Agnew:finding the line
Alberto Soto -IISI:sorry, I must leave now ... thanks, bye!!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Bye Alberto
wafa dahmani:bye alberto
Christopher Wilkinson (CW):Lost connectivity. Good night.
wafa dahmani:its gone
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:General briefing first and then smaller groups to discuss & ask questions, with a mix of "mentors" who can swap from group to group
Terri Agnew:@Tijani, we are unable to hear you
Terri Agnew:we are able to hear you now
Terri Agnew:Next CCWG Accountability call: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 at 06:00 UTC
Sébastien:Tuesday 6am UTC
Avri Doria:bye
Gordon Chillcott:Thanks and bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye for now...
