Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability call on  Tuesday, 09 June 2015  at 14:00 UTC

  Yasuichi Kitamura:hi, Terri

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All!

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Olivier, are you suffering from Paris Tennis Open frustration ?!  ;-)

  Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/IZk0Aw

  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Alan is joining in a moment

  Terri Agnew:Action item 02 June 2015 : https://community.icann.org/x/kpQ0Aw

  Terri Agnew:IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group Issues Proposal Assembly and Finalization Process and Updated Transition Process Timeline: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-01-07-en

  Terri Agnew:finding line

  Leon Sanchez:Agenda has been updated and links to the relevant documents have been added

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat:June 10, at 12:00 UTC;

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Tom Lowenhaupt

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat:(could the Sneezing Party mute microphone, please?)

  Terri Agnew:DT-A Service Levels Expectations https://community.icann.org/x/CA4nAw

  Eduardo Diaz:It shoukld be done after the transition

  Sébastien:Agree with Eduardo

  Sébastien:Can we discuss at the same time the transition and service evolution

  Sébastien:?

  Sébastien:Maybe be we can add the remplacement of Verisign as runing A server ;)?

  Terri Agnew:DT-M Escalation: https://community.icann.org/x/2xQnAw

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Add Budget Veto to Issues to be flagged?

  Sébastien:Membership

  Sébastien:if we talk about both c and cc wg

  Eduardo Diaz:Legal enforcement?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I was dropped

  Terri Agnew:calling back

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:let Sébastien next

  Terri Agnew:Olivier is back on call

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks!

  Alan Greenberg:@Tijani, Olivier, I understand that the question does not imply how we react, but we havea VERY fwe opportunities to send out message, and if we send one that is misunderstood, we ahave a problem.

  Alan Greenberg:Tow Shopper!

  Alan Greenberg:Oops Show Shopper

  Alan Greenberg:I am more worried that the GNSO will introduce a 6-month process - Rome burning while Nero fiddles.

  Eduardo Diaz:@Alan: IN that case CCs and Gs businesses  will suffer which will equal to $$$

  Eduardo Diaz:Is there is something really wrong with the IFO they will act accordnigly if it represnts loosing money

  Sébastien:@Olivier can you give us for all the bodies created by cwg? And the N° of members?

  Seun Ojedeji:I think the question for me is who decides to ask IFRT for an IFR...at the moment it seem its GNSO

  Seun Ojedeji:The decision to call for an IFR (as a triggered event) is what is critical for me

  Seun Ojedeji:i don't think GNSO should be the body to decide this

  Seun Ojedeji:The decision needs to be made by the community

  Leon Sanchez:The "community council" like structure

  Seun Ojedeji:Nevertheless, if IFRT would have the powers to determine determine is GNSO request for an IFR should really happen...then i would be fine

  Seun Ojedeji:edit: Nevertheless, if IFRT would have the powers to  determine if GNSO request for an IFR should really happen...then i would be fine.

  Seun Ojedeji:whats the essence of a liaison if its just observing ;-)

  Sébastien:Maybe I can explaine why I am asking this question?

  Alan Greenberg:@Seun, if you are talking about the CSC, a lisison has all righted except voting.

  Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability Workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw

  Seun Ojedeji:if voting is part of CSC poceeding...is there any more important right to have than that? nevertheless i am not so worried about CSC. I am more worried about CSC escallation. We need to be sure things have gone so bad before an IFRT can be triggered

  Seun Ojedeji:that decision should not be for the GNSO alone to make

  Eduardo Diaz:I will be on audio only. I need to step away from the computer. at the moment

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Seun: the IFRT will perform an IANA Functions Review. I have the concern that if this is triggered by a GNSO & ccNSO sourced decision to undetake the Review, we are already starting on the footing that there should be a Separation --- or a tleast some in the GNOS will argue, as they are already arguing NOW that there should be a separation in any case....

  Seun Ojedeji:Exactly my point Olivier

  Seun Ojedeji:the CWG has paid so much attention on creating mechanism for moving IANA out of ICANN and that worries me a lot

  Terri Agnew:the CCWG Accountability Draft Report has been translated into Arabic, Chinese, French, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish. The translated documents are currently posted in the At-Large Wiki Workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw.  

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Seun: I agree with you and I have cconcerns about how all of the committees and how all of the processes we have created could be used for capture of the IANA function. I hope that scenarios are going to look at this too, not only if ICANN goes rogue, but if a stakeholder or group of stakeholders has a hidden agenda

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat:I'll have to leave this call in a couple of minutes. Goodbye all!

  Loris Taylor:Thank you for a great informative call.  I have to jump off now. 

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye

  Terri Agnew:good bye Jean-Jacques

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Loris

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my call has been dropped

  Terri Agnew:@Cheryl, we are dialing back out to you

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thx

  Leon Sanchez:and my line dropped

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we must all be taking turns

  Terri Agnew:@Leon, calling you back

  Leon Sanchez:Thanks Terri

  Leon Sanchez:I am back in the phone bridge :-)

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Just letting you know that the Interpreters have graciously agreed to extend another 10 minutes

  Alan Greenberg:I have been told, and no one has disputed it, that the MoUs with RALOs are symbolic and have no real legal standing.

  Alan Greenberg:@Sebastien, the issues is two-fold. COULD the Baord do something against the community. And WOULD they. That is really two different questions.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:IMHO we need a lot more discussion on this issue of Legal Enforceability

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:this is really sticky

  Alan Greenberg:We need to decide WHAT we are really willing to accept.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:indeed we do

  Sébastien:The MOU was sign by the CEO and the ALS founding members

  Sébastien:19th of June

  Seun Ojedeji:is there anything pressing?

  Leon Sanchez:my call dropped again but then again we are almost finished

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:can we breakfast together on Friday in BA ?

  Sébastien:Maybe we can plan diner and breakfast ;)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:do what you want I will catch up

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:or not

  Seun Ojedeji:bye

  Fatima Cambronero:thanks all! Safe travel!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes safe travels

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