Date: Wednesday, 03 November 2021
Time: 19:00 - 20:30 UTC (for the time in various time zones click here)
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English Conference ID = 1638
Spanish Conference ID = 1738
French Conference ID = 1838
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Action Items: EN
Recording: EN, ES, FR
Zoom Recording: EN
Zoom Chat: EN
Transcript: EN, ES, FR
Dial Out Participants:
EN: Alan Greenberg, Greg Shatan, Bill Jouris, Jonathan Zuck, Alberto Soto, Avri Doria, Carlos Dionisio Aguirre, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chokri Ben Romdhane, Daniel K Nanghaka, Dave Kissoondoyal, Eduardo Diaz, Gopal Tadepalli, Gordon Chillcott, Harold Arcos, Holly Raiche, Isaac Maposa, John McCormac, Jose R. Lebron, Judith Hellerstein, Lutz Donnerhacke, marita moll, Pari Esfandiari, Roberto Gaetano, Sarah Kiden, Sivasubramanian Muthasamy, Steinar Grøtterød, Foldestine Paye, Raymond Mamattah, Anne-Marie Joly Bachollet, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Vernatius Ezeama, Alfredo Calderon
ES: Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
FR: Anne-Marie Joly Bachollet
Apologies: Priyatosh Jana, Satish Babu, Justine Chew, Abdulkarim Oloyede, Evin Erdoğdu (staff)
Observer: Herb Waye
Staff: Heidi Ullrich, Devan Reed
Interpreters:
ES: David & Veronica
FR: Jacques & Isabelle
Call Management: Devan Reed
AGENDA
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English (EN)
1. Welcome and intro - staff (2 minutes)
2. Adoption of agenda, review of Action Items from 20 October - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
3. Draft ALAC statement on Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules - Bill Jouris and Jonathan Zuck (20 minutes)
4. Debrief of ICANN72 At-Large Policy Sessions - Jonathan Zuck (TBC - 15 minutes)
- Closed Generics: What's Next?
- Tackling DNS Abuse
- ICANN Accountability and Transparency and ICANN Reviews
- Follow up on ALAC Advice to the ICANN Board
5. Workgroup updates
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
Presentation:
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
See: Losing FOA Working Document, Auth-Info Codes Working Document and Additional Security Measures
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew and Hadia Elminiawi
6. Policy comment updates - Jonathan Zuck, drafting team member(s) and all (15 minutes)
- Draft PTI and IANA FY23 Operating Plan and Budgets
- Initial Report from the EPDP on Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs
Upcoming Public Comment Proceedings
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 CPWG
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 is seeking public comments.
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
Statement Name |
Deadline |
Status |
Assigned Working Group | Penholder(s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules Candidate for both ALAC statement in response to ICANN Public Comment proceeding, and ALAC advice to the ICANN Board |
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DRAFTING |
CPWG |
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TBD Public Comment to open in October 2021 |
DRAFTING |
CPWG |
Drafting team member(s): |
7. Any other business (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and all (3 minutes)
8. Next Meeting - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and staff (2 minutes)
- CPWG meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, at rotating times of 13 & 19 UTC (TBC re: ICANN72).
CPWG Resources
Español (ES)
1. Bienvenida y asistencia - staff (2 minutos)
2. Adopcion de la Agenda, revision de los Acciones a partir del 20 de octubre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutos)
3. Borrador de la declaración del ALAC sobre la propuesta de reglas de generación de etiquetas de la zona raíz del script latino - Bill Jouris y Jonathan Zuck (20 minutos)
4. Informe sobre las sesiones de políticas generales de la reunión ICANN72: Jonathan Zuck (por confirmar: 15 minutos)
- Genéricos cerrados: ¿Qué sigue?
- Abordar el abuso de DNS
- Responsabilidad y transparencia de la ICANN y revisiones de la ICANN
- Seguimiento de los consejos de ALAC a la Junta Directiva de la ICANN
5. Actualizaciones del grupo de trabajo:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Ver: Documento de trabajo de códigos de información de autenticación
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Gopal Tadepalli
6. Actualizaciones de comentarios sobre políticas - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, miembro (s) del equipo de redacción y todos (20 minutos)
Recientemente Ratificados por el ALAC
- Draft PTI and IANA FY23 Operating Plan and Budgets
- Initial Report from the EPDP on Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs
Próximos Procedimientos de Comentarios Públicos
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 CPWG
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 is seeking public comments.
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
Comentarios Publicos para decision
Ninguno
Declaracion actual (Consejo del ALAC, Comentario o Correspondencia)
Nombre del Comentario Público |
Comentarios del Público Cerrar |
Estado |
Grupo de Trabajo Asignado | Autor(es) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules Candidate for both ALAC statement in response to ICANN Public Comment proceeding, and ALAC advice to the ICANN Board |
|
DRAFTING |
CPWG |
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TBD Public Comment to open in October 2021 |
REDACCIÓN |
CPWG |
Equipo de redacción voluntario(s): |
7. Otros temas (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y todos (3 minutos)
8. Próxima reunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y staff (2 minutos)
- Las reuniones del CPWG se llevan a cabo semanalmente los miércoles, en horarios rotativos de 13 y 19 UTC.
CPWG Resources
Français (FR)
1. Accueil et appel nominal - personnel (2 minutes)
2. Adoption de l'ordre du jour, examen des points d'action à partir du 20 octobre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
3. Projet de déclaration de l'ALAC sur la proposition de règles de génération d'étiquettes pour la zone racine en script latin - Bill Jouris et Jonathan Zuck (20 minutes)
4. Débriefing des sessions de politique At-Large de l'ICANN72 - Jonathan Zuck (à confirmer - 15 minutes)
- Génériques fermés : quelle est la prochaine étape ?
- Lutter contre les abus DNS
- Responsabilité et transparence de l'ICANN et révisions de l'ICANN
- Suivi des conseils de l'ALAC au Conseil d'administration de l'ICANN
5. Mises à jour du groupe de travail:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Gopal Tadepalli
6. Mises à jour des commentaires sur la politique - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, membre (s) de l'équipe de rédaction et tous (15 minutes)
- Draft PTI and IANA FY23 Operating Plan and Budgets
- Initial Report from the EPDP on Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs
Prochaines Procédures de Commentaires Publics
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 CPWG
Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR) 2.0 is seeking public comments.
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
Commentaire public pour décision
Non
Déclarations actuelles (avis, commentaires ou correspondance de l'ALAC)
Nom du commentaire public |
Commentaire public Fermer |
Statut |
Groupe de travail assigné | Auteur(s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules Candidate for both ALAC statement in response to ICANN Public Comment proceeding, and ALAC advice to the ICANN Board |
|
DRAFTING |
CPWG |
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TBD Public Comment to open in October 2021 |
RÉDACTION |
CPWG |
Membre(s) de l'équipe de rédaction: |
7. Toute autre affaire (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et tous (3 minutes)
8. Prochaine réunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et le personnel (2 minutes)
- Les réunions du CPWG ont lieu chaque semaine le mercredi, à des heures de rotation de 13 et 19 UTC.
3 Comments
Gopal Tadepalli
Enumeration helps in deciphering the detailed information such as Hostnames, IP tables, SNMP and DNS, Application, Banners, Audit configurations and service settings. Enumeration systematically collects details. This enables the penetration testing to completely examine the systems. There are free and commercial software tools for the enumeration. The TCP ports are well known. Typical exercises include extracting usernames using e-mail IDs and extracting information using DNS transfer.
Network enumeration tends to use overt discovery protocols such as Network enumeration tends to use overt discovery protocols such as Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) and Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) to gather information. It may also scan various ports on remote hosts for looking for well known services in an attempt to further identify the function of a remote host. The next stage of enumeration is to fingerprint the operating system of the remote host. and SNMP to gather information. Software Defined Network (SDN) Controllers thrive on Network enumeration.
This is lot more than Network Mapping which only retrieves information about which servers are connected to a specific network and what operating system runs on them.
It is important to note that changing the Host does not necessarily require the transfer of the Domain Name. For many works and work arounds using software (including the Network Monitoring Tools) the well known data structures "A Record, CNAME Record, MX Record, TXT Record, SPF Record" serve brilliantly.
There are several free server monitoring tools for the discerning. The Domain Name System, is continually evolving on the aspects of security, stability, and resilience. So are the networking and programming tools and techniques.
The root zone of the DNS has been the focal point of many DNS conversations for decades. One set of conversations, which is a major preoccupation of ICANN meetings, concerns what labels are contained in the root zone. A separate set of conversations concern how this root zone is served in the context of the DNS resolution protocol. In my humble opinion, both these sets of conversations are equally important to be fostered.
In the same way that the notional IPv4 maximum packet size is 576 octets because ‘history’, there are 13 distinctly named root servers because ‘history’. Well, it is a fact that these numbers withstood the test of time in the rapidly changing technology domain. This is a commendable progress. Saying it "history" may be wiser than making any other numbers open for further challenges and debates.
It is not merely "Upward (Forward) Compatibility" that is desired. It is resilience. Resilience is a relatively new term in systems appearing only in the 2006 timeframe and becoming popularized in the 2010 timeframe.
Resilience is the ability to provide required capability in the face of adversity.
The means of achieving resilience include avoiding, withstanding, recovering from, and evolving and adapting to adversity.
My special thanks are due to Champika Wijayatunga, the then Regional Security, Stability and Resiliency Manager - Asia Pacific , ICANN for sharing the his slides with fantastic insights into the data structures, WHOIS and ROOT ZONE during 2014-2015.
A September 2009 paper within the context of ICANN may please be found at:
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/root-zone-augementation-analysis-17sep09-en.pdf
How is Ethical Hacking factored in the Domain Activity Reporting ?
Please find a whitepaper titled "HOW WHOIS DATA ENSURES A SAFE AND SECURE INTERNET"
at: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-white-paper-domain-tools-icann-proposed-compliance-models-18feb18-en.pdf
WHOIS has been a complex issue within ICANN. It is useful to know certain analytics based on:
https://whois.icann.org/en/whois-complaints
Also useful is the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) at:
https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/domain-registration-data-advanced-lookup-functionality-now-available-2-8-2021-en
PS: Programming languages support enumerated data type (enum). It is called factor in R Programming Language and categorical variable in statistics. Enumerated type maps a set of names to numeric values that are previously declared. For example enum (Hostname, IP Table) maps to (0,1) in ANSI C. This data type prevents programmers from writing illogical code on values of enumerators. Enumerated data also hides unnecessary details from programmers.
Gopal Tadepalli
A tool to know some patterns in Multilingual Keyboards may be found at: https://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/russian.htm
There are many non-trivial engineering compromises in what is presently being termed "Multilingualism".
There are many such free tools. My choice is driven by the specific pointer to Cyrillic Alphabet that came up in the CPWG Meeting chat on 03 November 2021.
I hope we have a wider range of experimentation to understand the rich interrelations between Native (Human) Language and the one that makes it connect to the machines.
Gopal Tadepalli
In response to the discussion and chat on 3 November 2021.
"The devices aren’t foolproof: college students in Oklahoma removed a barnacle by turning on the car defroster for 15 minutes." - John Tuohy, The Indianapolis Star, 20 Sep. 2021
"There’s no foolproof way to identify every type of phishing effort or scam - scammers are constantly upping their game - but being aware of the threat can help reduce its effectiveness" - Matt Burgess, Wired, 29 Aug. 2021
Algorithms happen in built-in traps.
Good coders always leave a long trace. This is the fundamental home truth in the world of algorithms.