Zoom chat: 2021-01-20 At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)

15:36:18 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone : Welcome to At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group Call taking place on Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 13:00 UTC.
15:36:35 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/bgZACQ
15:51:38 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : So in 10 Minutes, Trump will leave the White House on AirForce One - for the last time. whooppee
15:52:27 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE to Everyone : Hi everyone
15:55:22 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Hello all, welcome
15:57:13 From Priyatosh Jana to Everyone : hi everyone
16:03:08 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
16:03:22 From Herb Waye to Everyone : Warmest greetings to all
16:05:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Nothing wrong with a short call
16:08:31 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : hi everyone! sorry I am a bit late
16:09:32 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : Hi all
16:09:40 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : apologies for being late
16:09:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yes Ben is a tragic loss
16:13:33 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : An email has already been sent with information on the webinar
16:15:11 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Sorry - the webinar I referred to was what Hadia just described
16:15:28 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : https://features.icann.org/event/icann-organization/stakeholder-assembly-icann-perspectives-eu-digital-initiatives
16:18:03 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : @Cheryl yes indeed Ben's loss is tragic and sad, his comments are still there on the google doc.
16:18:42 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : @Holly thanks
16:19:11 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : Hello all.. sorry for being late
16:25:17 From Marita Moll to Everyone : same here Alan, I don't have that mtg on my agenda either.
16:28:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : The Small Team for SubPro
16:28:14 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone : @All - Kind reminder to please state your names before speaking.
16:31:02 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : Alan drafted the statement - I only put a comment
16:31:12 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond (Internet Society UK England) to Everyone : GNSO Liaison Reports -- with the announcement about the Webinar for the GNSO Council regarding the Subsequent Procedures for New gTLDs PDP Final Report: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/GNSO+Liaison+Reports
16:31:16 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : See At-Large workspace: Operational Design Phase (ODP) Concept Paper - https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Operational+Design+Phase+%28ODP%29+Concept+Paper
16:31:30 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone : I've to leave early … Homeschooling requires me
16:31:49 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : Ok Lutz - bye
16:37:30 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : I agree with Alan on this issue - we need to comment on the replacement of topic specialists
16:38:50 From Justine Chew to Everyone : I posted a message in reply to CPWG list: The earlier proposed Design Feedback Group in the ODP concept paper v1, while seemingly bureaucratic in nature, did offer recognized opportunities for stakeholders outside those represented in the GNSO Council to intercede (where needed) in the manner ICANN Org takes issues of implementation planning to the ICANN Board. This is an important point. And I am also a little concerned with how the approach (to be) taken in this ODP paper v2 would ultimately set a precedent for considering implementation planning of policy recommendations coming down the line, such as those for RPMs and SubPro.
16:39:15 From Roberto to Everyone : Hi all - sorry to be late
16:39:35 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : *````````
16:40:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Important point @Justine
16:41:45 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Not only cost - but details on how it is implemented.
16:42:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : lost audio at the end
16:43:17 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Is this another issue for discussion with the GAC?
16:44:48 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : We could just add the concept of precedent to our statement, then?
16:45:24 From Marita Moll to Everyone : My understanding from the webinar was that it was applicable to other processes
16:45:27 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : You are correct Justine, this will not only affect SSAD
16:45:46 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : Exactly
16:46:05 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : SSAD might only be the reason this was triggered at this point in time
16:47:03 From Marita Moll to Everyone : I am a bit surprised that such pre-evaluation of cost and implementation has not existed before
16:47:52 From Marita Moll to Everyone : exactly Cheryl -- it is meant for being prepared
16:48:09 From Marita Moll to Everyone : We would want to support that
16:48:36 From Marita Moll to Everyone : It is just good business
16:49:13 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Everyone : @Holly Today’s call was planned for comparing notes on SubPro in view of possible ALAC and GAC advice to the Board. But of course thus could be taken up under AOB in view of discussing it at the joit meeting at ICANN70
16:49:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Exactly @Greg
16:50:01 From Roberto to Everyone : Agree @Greg
16:50:23 From Roberto to Everyone : But it should not be a surprise
16:50:26 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : @ Marita. In times past, there has usually been an implementation WG. However, for more complex decisions such as EPDP, seen to be sufficiently complex to warrant a more detailed examination, there hasn’t been a mechanism - so this is it - the idea that additional, informed, specialist information should be available.
16:53:09 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : Another letter to the Board - hopefully with GAC support
16:53:15 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Thanks for clarifying @Holly and @Alan. Good thing we are jumping in here
16:53:16 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : Clarification in relation to the intent of the policy or specific recommendations certainly belongs to the council, but when it comes to implementation and use other elements of the community are for sure required . Therefore we do need to have a means through which other parts of the community could be included
16:53:55 From Holly Raiche to Everyone : @ Hadia - totally agree
16:54:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : ANd with a trong statement I can always bring that to the GNSO Council table directly at the appropriate times :-)
16:54:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : strong statement
16:56:23 From Greg Shatan to Everyone : Implementation has not been organized along "working group" lines -- if anything, it has been staff-led, with Implementation Oversight Teams assembled without specific seating requirements.
16:57:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : It needs to only be used in ters of the specific meaning IN the GNSO re Consensus Policy
16:57:50 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : I have to leave at the top of the hour as well
16:58:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : DON'T mis use the term is my suggestion
17:01:25 From Greg Shatan to Everyone : I need to step away. I will hopefully be back before the end.
17:02:32 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : @Olivier indeed time is needed
17:02:33 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Is it possible to get a notice circulated on the Euralo roundtables -- times, dates?
17:03:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Thanks everyone Bye for now :-)
17:03:51 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone : 27 January 2021 at 19:00 UTC
17:03:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : 1900
17:03:57 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone : Thanks a lot everyone
17:03:59 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : 19:00 UTC
17:04:17 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : @Marita, Yes we will do that via mailing list
17:04:24 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone : Thank you all - bye
17:04:26 From Herb Waye to Everyone : Thanks everyone… stay safe and be kind.
17:04:27 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : Thanks and bye to all
17:04:28 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone : Thank you all!
17:04:30 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : thanks all!
17:04:40 From Marita Moll to Everyone : by all. stay well
17:04:47 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Bye. all.
17:04:48 From Roberto to Everyone : Bye!