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  Yesim Nazlar: (9/11/2018 17:13) Welcome to the EURALO By-Laws Taskforce Call taking place on Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 15:00 UTC.

  Yesim Nazlar: (17:14) Agenda:

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (17:49) Hello!

  Yesim Nazlar: (17:51) Hi Jean-Jacques, welcome!

  Silvia Vivanco: (17:57) Hello all welcome

  Yesim Nazlar: (17:58) Welcome Silvia and all!

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:01) Hi all

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:02) Google doc:

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:02) Sorry for not having time to write thank you for great job!

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:07) Schedule: 1- Pass draft to EURALO Board, 2- Draft with comments back to Task Force 3. Task Force to hold a last teleconference to incorporate comments, 4.- Final document doc to be sent to all EURALO membership, 5- Presentation and approval (hopefully) at the EURALO GA in Barcelona

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:08) YES

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:08) I will copy them over

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:08) noted

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:09) Swiss address - could you please provide us details of this Swiss address?

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:09)

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:09) dropped out(

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:10) tell us when you are back on

  Yesim Nazlar: (18:11) redialing you Oksana

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:11) I can hear you. I would like to propose to approve this address at each General Assembly

  Yesim Nazlar: (18:16) Florian Hule has joined the phone bridge

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:17) great @Yesim

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:18) @Olivier, it may be even simpler to have only one category for the Board members, instead of Officers / non-Officers.

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:18) As for me, the main issue is about providing fals information about ALS or person

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:21) @Yrjö on ALSs: agreed.

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:25) @Oksana: this question comes under the general heading of accountability and transparency. If an ALS or individual is suspected of providing false data, the EURALO Board can/should inquire, and if necessary propose cessation of membership. @Olivier: yes, operating rules rather than Bylaws.

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:25) +1 JJS

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:26) false data about ALS activity - what to do with it?

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:26) @Silvia +1. We must remain vigilant, which means we cannot avoid BEFORE, but it's certainly our duty to react AFTER.

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:27) I have some obligations regarding otjet EURALO members. Other members can compline on me. What to do?

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:28) other)

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:28) @Olivier and Silvia: I suggest you put up an Action Item for the creation of a list of pending questions which require clarification from Staff, or General Counseil's office, or another source of legal knowledge.

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:29) noted

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:29) yes JJS

  Yrjö Länsipuro: (18:33) +1 JJS

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:34) APRALO's rules:

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:34) see Introduction (paragraph read by Olivier)

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:36) @Olivier: all the more reason to include the ref. to Europe ''in the ICANN definition of its regions''.

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:37) yes I can add a note on this

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:37) I am sorry, could you repeat about geograghical points?

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:37) @Silvia, thanks for reminding us of the ''Forum'' history.

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:40) you are welcome Jean-Jacques

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:41) I am ready to write down EURALO history (in English or or Russian)

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:41) @Olivier: yes, the suggestion should be approved by the EURALO Board, for Chair to officially notify ICANN and ALAC.

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:45) @Olivier, something like ''However, contributions to EURALO facilitating the accomplishment of its missions are acceptable, insofar as they do not constitute commercial benefit or profit''.

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:46) ''... in the accomplishment of its missions AS A NOT_FOR_PROFIT entity...''

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:49)

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:49) GOOGLE DOC link above

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:52) ALS do not need to be legally incorporated to become ALS

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:52) @Yrjö and Olivier: could we write ''Individuals'' instead of ''Natural Persons'', which is very 17th century legalese...

  Oksana Prykhodko: (18:53) +1

  Silvia Vivanco: (18:55) Natural persons is used in all civil law countries I believe

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (18:59) @Florian +1.

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (19:10) @Silvia: Olivier... ''with a preface...''

  Silvia Vivanco: (19:10) noted JJS

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (19:10) @Silvia : thanks!  ;-)

  Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (19:11) Thanks much, and goodbye!

  Silvia Vivanco: (19:11) Thank you all !!

  Yrjö Länsipuro: (19:11) Bye bye!