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ICANN57: Hyderabad

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17 Aug 2015


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  1. Short evaluation ICANN 53 BA.
  2. Works as agreed. 
    1. 1. chart 
    2. 2. legal 
    3. 3. administrative

3. CCWG accountability & human rights

4. Other issues


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Maryam Bakoshi
MaryamBakoshi:
Dear all
Dearall, welcome to the CCWP on ICANN & HR call on Monday, 17th Aug 2015 at 13:00 UTC
  Maryam Bakoshi
  MaryamBakoshi:
Megan Richards   matthew shears
MeganRichards& Sara Bockey have joined the meeting
  Maryam Bakoshi:Rafik Dammak has joined
  Maryam Bakoshi:Niels has joined
  MaryamBakoshi:RafikDammakhasjoined
  MaryamBakoshi:Nielshasjoined
  matthewshears:hello
  Maryam Bakoshi:Matthew SHears and marilia Marciel   Marilia Maciel:Hello all
  MaryamBakoshi:MatthewSHearsandmariliaMarciel have joined
  Maryam Bakoshi:Tatiana Tropina has joined
  MaryamBakoshi:TatianaTropinahasjoined
  MariliaMaciel:Helloall!
  Megan Richards,
European Commission
EuropeanCommission:
much better
muchbetter !
  Marilia Maciel
  MariliaMaciel:Sure.
  Tatiana Tropina
  TatianaTropina:
Hi everyone
Hieveryone!
  Marilia Maciel
  MariliaMaciel:Yes
  Marilia Maciel:Maybe we can see
  MariliaMaciel:Maybewecansee the agenda on screen?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:1. Short evaluation ICANN2. Works as agreed. 1. chart 2. legal 3. administrivia3. CCWG accountability & human rights4. other issues
  Marilia Maciel:Perfect
  Marilia Maciel:
Lost audio
Lostaudio, Niels
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
we have lost your voice Niels
wehavelost yourvoiceNiels!
  Maryam Bakoshi:Alexandra, Avri Doria, Stephanie Perrin & Farzaneh have  joined
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Niles will rejoin
Nileswillrejoin soon
  matthew shears:
seem to have
seemtohave audio issues
  Maryam Bakoshi:
We are calling
Wearecalling him now
  Marilia Maciel:Ok, thanks, Maryam
  Maryam Bakoshi:
We are working
Weareworking to get Niels back on the line
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:yyou lost me?
  Maryam Bakoshi
  MaryamBakoshi:Yes
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:aii
  Marilia Maciel
  MariliaMaciel:Yes,
no audio
noaudio
  Maryam Bakoshi:The operator has been
  MaryamBakoshi:Theoperatorhasbeen trying to call you
  Niels ten Oever -Article19:
can you
canyou call me again?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
I just hung
Ijusthung up now
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
pls call me
plscallme again
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
where did you
wheredidyou lose me?
  matthew shears:
I am here
Iamhere (I think)
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
at the beginning
atthebeginning !!
  Tatiana Tropina:can you hear
  TatianaTropina:canyouhear me?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
No we
Nowe cannot hear you
  Maryam Bakoshi:No
  Tatiana Tropina:
too bad
toobad
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Tatiana do
Tatianado you have a number we can sial out to
  Maryam Bakoshi:*dial
  Tatiana Tropina:+4917635423791
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Amr Elsadr
AmrElsadr has joined
  Maryam Bakoshi:@Tatiana - calling you now
  Marilia Maciel:
Vacations for
Vacationsfor you guys, in Europe I think :)
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Yes Tatiana
YesTatiana is on the line
  Marilia Maciel:Avri? Matt? :)
  matthew shears:
I think
Ithink that the accountabillity proposal is also asking for input from commenters on the issue of human rights in the bylaws in parallel
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
this is
thisis what the report seems to say but perhaps this is evolving: • Work plan for Work Stream 2 to: o Enhance diversity and the culture of transparency within ICANNo Further address concerns about community accountability. The 2nd Draft Report includes a recommendation for regular structural reviews of SOs and ACs to assess their accountability towards their participants as well as towards the stakeholders they are designed to represent.o Elaborate on a Commitment to human rights in the ICANN Bylaws.• Details on an implementation plan for Work Stream 1, including a Bylaws drafting process.
  Megan Richards, European Commission:sorry- wrong cut and paste !! apologies
  matthew shears:
in terms of
intermsof strategy it will be important for a number of diverse entities to input on this
in the publoc consultation - the comment revirew process does
inthepublocconsultation- thecommentrevirewprocessdoes not weight the inputs so more inputs on
issues of concernsuch as HR
issuesofconcernsuchasHR is important
  Avri Doria:
i plan to
iplanto put in my own comment on the issue.
  Avri Doria:
both HR related
bothHRrelated and other.
  matthew shears
  matthewshears:+ 1
  matthew shears:I think we
  matthewshears:Ithinkwe have to leave a lot of this to WS2.  If we start to get into the detail the bylaw may get very long and cumbersome
  Tatiana Tropina:
I think it
Ithinkit is better to avoid detailing bylaws in order to avoid long legal debates which can get us to nowhere and delay the changes we want
  matthew shears:yep
  Tatiana Tropina:*again I don't know how far this discussion went before, may be I am just repeating what has already been discussed many times
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
perhaps its a
perhapsitsa problem with the mike -
in a nutshell I agree with marilia's comment
inanutshellIagree withmarilia'scomment
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Hi Megan
HiMegan, please could you provide your number for dial out
  Amr Elsadr:@Matt: RE: HRs in WS2, that sounds logical to me, so +1. For now, some form of commitment from the CCWG to include HR issues in WS2 wouldn't be such a bad thing though.
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
My number is
Mynumberis +322 2962443
but marilia said
butmariliasaid exactly what I was going to say -
  Avri Doria:The Corporation shall operate for the benefit of the Internet community as a whole, carrying out its activities in conformity with relevant principles of international law and applicable international conventions and local law and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with these Articles and its Bylaws, through open and transparent processes that enable competition and open entry in Internet-related markets. To this effect, the Corporation shall cooperate as appropriate with relevant international organizations
  matthew shears:
shame we can
shamewecan't just asterisk the bylaw above after the word conventions and add if need be UDHR and ICCPR
  Tatiana Tropina:@Matthew, it's articles of incorporation I think :)
  matthew shears:thanks
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
the articles of
thearticlesof incorporation cover all
  Avri Doria:... coverl all that are relevant ... applicable ... and to the extent apprpproprote consistent with the bylaws.
  Tatiana Tropina
  TatianaTropina:Yes, in a general way
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
the Articles
theArticles take precedence over the bylaws - the bylaws can limit the application or clarify the specific provisions
  Tatiana Tropina:+1 to Megan. I see any changes made to bylaws as clarification of this general commitment
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
ICANN has agreed
ICANNhasagreed to apply the applicable and relevant provisions by virtue of the provisions of its ARticles of incorporation - public international law and its application is a separate issue and not what we should be discussing here
  matthew shears:agree with simple
  matthewshears:agreewithsimple phrasing for bylaws
  Avri Doria:
those are not
thosearenot my concerns, as much as the concerns
of tothers.  i support the
oftothers.  isupportthe most general language.  
  Tatiana Tropina:
I actually don
Iactuallydon't see any way to make
other than simple wording of
otherthansimplewordingof bylaws
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
am responding in
amrespondingin the chat then
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
we should ensure
weshouldensure that the work is not duplicating that done in GAC
HR wg and
HRwgand other fora
  matthew shears:
good point
goodpoint- have the GAC discussions evolved since the meeting in BA?
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
not yet but
notyetbut would be a pity if the various groups were to either duplicate or heavens forbid contradict that of each other
  Avri Doria:Isn'
t the GAC having a simlar definitional issues
tthe GAC havingasimlardefinitionalissues as the WP4 is having
  Megan Richards, European Commission:
thanks and apologies
thanksandapologies for no voice :-)
  matthew shears:
thanks Niels
thanksNiels, all
  Tatiana Tropina:thanks!
  Niels ten Oever -Article19:
Thanks all
Thanksall!
  Maryam Bakoshi:Thank you all
  MaryamBakoshi:Thankyouall



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29 May 2015


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- - Introductions
- - Report
 - Comments?
 -Issue on behalf of who?
 - Approval procedure
- - Sessions in BA
- - Update on other community activities

 

 



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  Maryam Bakoshi:
Dear all
Dearall, welcome to the ICANN and HR call on Friday 29th May 2015
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Rafik Dammak and
RafikDammakand Niels Ten Oever have joined the meeting
  Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome
  Marilia Maciel:
Hello all
Helloall!
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Welcome Marilia
WelcomeMarilia
  rafik:non
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Monika has joined
Monikahasjoined
  rafik:
maybe she is
maybesheis shy :)
  Monika Zalnieriute:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Monika Zalnieriute:
I also right
Ialsoright it here:)
  Monika Zalnieriute:haha, I read that I am shy here:)
  Monika Zalnieriute:ok, I wait for the call then!
  Niels ten Oever -Article19:Monika,
can you
canyou pick up?
  Monika Zalnieriute:I still did not get a
  MonikaZalnieriute:Istilldidnotgeta call
  rafik:
who joined
whojoined?
  Maryam Bakoshi: Pranesh Prakash
  Monika Zalnieriute:
but I
butI can hear You though,
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Vipul Karbhanda
VipulKarbhanda
  Maryam Bakoshi:
have both joined
havebothjoined
  Monika Zalnieriute:
mayeb someone know
mayebsomeoneknow, what I should click to make my mic work?
  Niels ten Oever -Article19:
Clicl on the mic Monika
CliclonthemicMonika
  Alexandra:hi!
  Maryam Bakoshi:Alexandra please could you state your
  MaryamBakoshi:Alexandrapleasecouldyoustateyour full name for record purposes. Thank you
  Alexandra:Maryam,it'
s Alexandra   Monika Zalnieriute
sAlexandra Kulikova
  Marilia Maciel:Please start the recording
  MariliaMaciel:Pleasestarttherecording
  MonikaZalnieriute:yes,
I can
Ican,
  Marilia Maciel
  MariliaMaciel:Please,
can we let
canwelet the ppl on the phone introduce themselves?
  Alexandra:i'
m not sure
mnotsure I won't be able to speak though unfortunately(
  Marilia Maciel:Please, mute your mics
  rafik:
niels shoulds disable the
nielsshouldsdisablethe mic for his adobe connect :)
  Marianne F:
Hi all
Hiall,
there is
thereis feedback so we are hearing Niels twice
  Marianne F:You'
re welcom Monika, apologies for
rewelcomMonika,apologiesfor the lengthy email nonetheless! :)
  Marilia Maciel:
What is the
Whatisthe deadline to comment?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
Depends if we
Dependsifwe want to print it nicely
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
If we want
Ifwewant it to be gone via editor, design and print, we will need to have it done by Monday
  rafik:@Niels it is a working document for CCWP to continue the discussion, expecting the CCWP to produce its first delvierable
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Indeed, so we need
to agree on a approval procedure
toagreeonaapprovalprocedure(point 1.3 :) )
  rafik:
I would see
Iwouldsee it as an "issue report" not necessarily
needed an approval , it is
neededanapproval,itis more research work to give input
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:let's discuss this under the next point
  Pranesh Prakash:
If we don't make
Ifwedon'tmake a strong defence of HR, who will? :-) Having said that I don't think there's a need to establish a duty to protect on ICANN's part.
  Marianne F:
OF course
OFcourse, they do have this responsibility just we need to proceed step by step. So if the point is made in a note then it is there on the record to be used and referred to later if need be (just reiterating verbal point in writing)
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:+1
  Pranesh Prakash:+1
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Nigel Hickson has
NigelHicksonhas joined
  Marilia Maciel:
Audio issues here
Audioissueshere. Will have to go out and enter again, sorry
  Marianne F:+1 from me for leaving it
in as example
inasexample; just to edit and tighten up for now and indicate there option of more detailed analysis later
  Pranesh Prakash:+1 to Marianne
  Monika Zalnieriute:Guys, I agree to have it as an example: would You like to have it a shorter part though for now?
  Monika Zalnieriute:in this particular
  MonikaZalnieriute:inthisparticular report?
  Monika Zalnieriute
  MonikaZalnieriute:+ Lee; it might be too much stuff.
  Monika Zalnieriute:All at once
  MonikaZalnieriute:Allatonce.
  Marianne F:Hi, if the feeling is to keep it in then perhaps as a note? But Lee is pointing out the timing issue so I would defer to those who know ICANN better than I do
  Marianne F:
Please mute mics
Pleasemutemics when typing! :)
  Marianne F:
If in doubt
Ifindoubt leave it out
  Alexandra:
Agree that the
Agreethatthe UDRP part might draw attention from the substantial issues int
he first partin the shape
hefirstpartintheshape it is now
  Alexandra:
I might have
Imighthave missed it -
could smb please remind
couldsmbpleaseremind again how GAC is going to be engaged?
  Pranesh Prakash:Apologies. I have to leave now. But would just like to reiterate that
we mustI
wemustI(strategically) bear the burden of being the people who take positions on sensitive commercial issues. If we don't, no one else will. We can build bridges after we have some rough position.
  Marianne F:+1 from
me Pranesh
mePranesh; point well taken, cheerio!
  rafik:@Alexandra we have some GAC members in the CCWP, it has its own working group and Lee is basically doing the liaison. maybe Lee can elaborate here
  Marilia Maciel:
Maybe we could
Maybewecould move to the session in BA?
  Monika Zalnieriute:
So I
SoI would like to get the idea what do we do?: please type in here, so I could briefly have  an idea who is for LEAVING the UDRP and who is for TAKING OUT
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
The consensus seems
Theconsensusseems to be that it could be
mentioned as an  short example
mentionedasan  shortexample, but
we leave ourt the longer
weleaveourtthelonger expose.
  Alexandra:sorry
  Marilia Maciel:Yes, that is my feeling too
  Alexandra:I'
ll type
lltype
  rafik:@monika in few words more coming work for you :)
  Monika Zalnieriute:Ok, how long - and how detailed - simply a page or so or approx how long?
  Niels ten Oever -Article19:Shorter
  Marianne F
  MarianneF:
Mention it
Mentionit, keep it short as a concrete example vs. a full expose.
  Monika Zalnieriute
  MonikaZalnieriute:yes,yes, so simply
a single refernece
asinglerefernece, You mean -
thats it
thatsit?
  Monika Zalnieriute:shorter than a page
  MonikaZalnieriute:shorterthanapage, You mean?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Yes
  Monika Zalnieriute:simply like an example mentione
  MonikaZalnieriute:simplylikeanexamplementione, in a sentence?:)
  Alexandra:guys, just a quick comment/observation: an
elaborate description of  this one case
elaboratedescriptionof  thisonecase study now will definitely attract criticism from Russian GAC representatives - as at
the Signapore meeting
theSignaporemeeting they were very vocal on the Crimean domains issue from the HR perspective. It's a
very debateable issue
verydebateableissue in terms of how exactly
that relates to  the ICANN remit
thatrelatesto  theICANNremit, but if
the HRtalk starts
theHRtalkstarts with UDRP in detail I can expect the reaction :) what I mean is that there seems to be a strong link for
them berween ICANN and that incidet in
themberweenICANN and thatincidetin the HR context. I can expect there will be efforts to stick it in
  Marianne F:..I see your point but won't there be this sort of push back anyway? If this example really could become a red herring (forgive the pun) then leave it out for now. We can always put it back in...
  Alexandra:
yeah I
yeahI guess you're right.. But it would be good to at least formulate some stance on the issue from the group? or have a longer least of potential case studies for future
  Alexandra:*list
  rafik:
there will be
therewillbe pish back for many topics, that is why we have to work on consensus and "educate"
  Marilia Maciel:Yes, open to collaboration/endorsements
  rafik:
we need to
weneedto get CCWP to have
ownership on itw own deliverable
ownershiponitwowndeliverable
  Marianne F:
I agree
Iagree; send the final version of the report to the CCWP for comments. People comment best when there is something concrete to comment on.
  rafik:
the public session
thepublicsession is not clashing with important sessions
  rafik:kathy is not coming to BA
  Marilia Maciel:
I would go bit further and
Iwouldgobitfurtherand ask them for
their aseesment
theiraseesment
  Marilia Maciel:
some sort of
somesortof responsibility to speak
  Marilia Maciel:great
  Marilia Maciel:Perfect
  Alexandra:
thanks Niels
thanksNiels
  Marianne F:
Thanks Niels
ThanksNiels, thanks all for a great meeting
  Marilia Maciel:
Thanks all
Thanksall
  Marilia Maciel:
Bye all
Byeall!
  Alexandra:
thanks everyone and bye
thankseveryoneandbye!



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30 Mar 2015


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  Maryam Bakoshi:
Dear all
Dearall, welcome to the ICANN and Human Rights Call on  Monday, 30th March 2015
  Benjamin Akinmoyeje:
Hello Maryam
HelloMaryam
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Dear all
Dearall, please kindly state your name and organization in the chat windon for record purposes
  Maryam Bakoshi:*window
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
Tentative agenda
Tentativeagenda is here:
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:1. Introductions
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:2. Discussion or objective and scope of the CCWP
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:3. Discussion of potential research topics
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:4. Update on related work in other constituencies and workstreams
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:5. Outreach
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:
Hi all
Hiall, I'm Jorge Cancio, GAC-Rep for Switzerland
  Chris LaHatte:
good morning
goodmorning/evening
  nigel hickson:
Good afternoon
Goodafternoon from Geneva
  HR:
good afternoon
goodafternoon from Brussels - I
will unfortunately have
willunfortunatelyhave to leave about 14:15 - apologies
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
Just to
Justto make sure everyone has the text of the CCWP draft charter:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  rafik:hi
  rafik:
how is
howis HR?
  matthew shears:hello
  Marilia Maciel:
here until
hereuntil the window of the plane closes
  Marilia Maciel:
no sound
nosound though
  HR:
I am
Iam also here - Megan Richards (European Commission)  - my name comes up as HR - I guesss the signin rather than name
  Amr Elsadr:
Hi Megan
HiMegan..., if you like, you can edit your info using the menu at the top-right of the AC window.
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:
the content
thecontent of the chat just disappeared...
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  jorge cancio GAC
  jorgecancioGAC-Switzerland:thanks
  rafik:
Hi Megan
HiMegan, you are welcome :)
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  Amr Elsadr:
Archives of the
Archivesofthe email list are here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cc-humanrights/
  Alexandra:
Hi everyone, in listening only mode unfortunately
Hieveryone, inlisteningonlymodeunfortunately
  Amr Elsadr:
This AC room
ThisACroom is audio enabled, so you can use it to speak without dialling into the conference.
  matthew shears:
Is there a ICANN WP
IsthereaICANNWP template?
  matthew shears:
when we were
whenwewere doing the Charter for the
CCWG Accountbaility there
CCWGAccountbailitythere was a template - granted it is a
WG not WP
WGnotWP but just wondered
  Amr Elsadr:Great. Thanks.
  Amr Elsadr:
Bringing in
Bringingin/recruiting the expertise would be fantastic.
  jorge cancio GAC
  jorgecancioGAC-Switzerland:
As information under
Asinformationunder 4: GAC agreed in Singapore to form a working group on human rights and international law
  jorge cancio GAC
  jorgecancioGAC-Switzerland:
It is now
Itisnow being constituted, with a large number of interested GAC members, and with the work being lead by Peru
  Amr Elsadr:@Jorge: That's wonderful. Looking fwd to seeing what this WG comes up with. Thanks.
  matthew shears:
i think it
ithinkit will be important to ensure
linkages betwen the
linkagesbetwenthe WP and the WG - maybe it should be written into the charter
  Amr Elsadr:
I see this
Iseethis now in the text on
the etherpad
theetherpad, which answers my earlier question: To propose procedures and mechanisms with the aim
of producingassessments on
ofproducingassessmentson if and how policies and procedures
under developedand
underdevelopedand/or being implemented may impact on human rights.
  Monika Zalnieriute:I am here
  MonikaZalnieriute:Iamhere, I can hear everything, but I am not sure I can speak.
  Monika Zalnieriute:Do You hear me
  MonikaZalnieriute:DoYouhearme?
  Amr Elsadr:@Monika: Click on the phone icon on the top left of the screen.
  matthew shears:
I like the
Ilikethe idea of looking at HR in the broader framing of CSR - it might be easier for the SOs and ACs to understand (and be open to)
  Maryam Bakoshi:@Monika, please give me your number and I will dial out to you
  Monika Zalnieriute:Ok, I have turned my mic,  it should work,
  Monika Zalnieriute:aha, ok, my phone no xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Dialling out to
Diallingoutto you now
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Yes we can
Yeswecan
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
Yes we can
Yeswecan
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
go ahead
goahead
  Monika Zalnieriute:Ok, so do I speak now?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Yes, pls go ahead
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:
We still don
Westilldon't
hear you Monika  Monika Zalnieriute
hearyouMonika
  MonikaZalnieriute:Cool, I hear everything, and I think I agree with Niels
  matthew shears:
aree Niels
areeNiels - we should focus where we add value and focus -
for for example on
forforexampleon CSR
  Monika Zalnieriute:
I see its
Iseeits pretty much clear that we should focus most of our attention on CSR,
  Alexandra:
It might be
Itmightbe useful to look at the Global Network Initiative
experience in HR audit
experienceinHRaudit
  Amr Elsadr:@Monika: I'm not entirely convinced that CSR should be the focus. The real
need of HR
needofHR consideration in ICANN is on how the policies affect domain name holders. This is done using the governance mechanisms via the contracts between ICANN and the registries and registrars, as well as the contracts between the registrars and the registrants.
  Amr Elsadr
  AmrElsadr:I'
m not sayin that
mnotsayinthat CSR should be excluded, but it shouldn't dominate the focus of the group.
  Avri Doria:
aplogies for being late.  i thought it
aplogiesforbeinglate.  ithoughtit was later.
  matthew shears:
business responsibility to
  nigel hickson:Assume Lee can talk on COE work
  nigelhickson:AssumeLeecantalkonCOEwork?
  matthew shears:@ Amr - understand your point re CSR - but I guess my feeling is that using that approach as an umbrella may make the issue for palatable
  Amr Elsadr:@Matt: Looks interesting. Will have to put a couple of hours aside to go through it. :)
  matthew shears:
has this been
hasthisbeen circulated more
broadly Lee
broadlyLee?
  jorge cancio GAC
  jorgecancioGAC-Switzerland:
will a short
willashort summary of this call be circulated?
  matthew shears:
I think it
Ithinkit will be very important going forward that this WP has the fullest visibility of what is going on vis-a-vis ICANN and
HR bpoth inside and outsdide ICANN
HRbpothinside andoutsdideICANN
  Amr Elsadr:
Thanks all
Thanksall. Bye.
  matthew shears:
thanks Niels
thanksNiels all
  Chris LaHatte:thanks
  Maryam Bakoshi:
Thank you all  jorge cancio GAC
Thankyouall
  jorgecancioGAC-Switzerland:thanks
  Anri vd Spuy
  AnrivdSpuy:Thanks.



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Niel Ten Oever, Rafik Dammak, Amr Elsadr, Marilia Marciel, Benjamin Akinmoyeje, Jorge Cancio, Concettina Cassa, Chris Lahatte, Nigel Hickson, Alexandra, Lee Hibbard, Matthew Shears, Monika Zalnieruite, Megan Richards, Jean-Jacques Sahel, Stephania Milan, Avri Doria