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Kimberly Carlson: Hello, welcome to today's study group call on use of emoji as SLD on 23 January @18:30 UTC
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Hello
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:I can't connect my microphone
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]::(
Kimberly Carlson:try now ;)
Patrik Fältström:hi
Kimberly Carlson:here is the link to the Google doc: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1dUfVkS4HkH-5F439v7HsNzp7-5F0L5O91yw0pwvd-5Fe8XQdc_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=Vz60ixHFy77yDH5qC1mm-gECfazW2ARLSNtTjJqL9Ss&s=vZj0EQvulYjof9YNUsN4MUPmQCaWOBSqQSA7QTJfGVg&e=
Bernard Turcotte:Hello all
Joke Braeken:hello everyone
Kimberly Carlson:Peter can you hear us?
Bart Boswinkel:Hi all
Kimberly Carlson:Agenda:
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome and rollAdministrativeDiscussion with JaapResponse to Patrik’s questionDraft report – Bernard to reviewMembers are invited to comment – see google doc linkAOBNext meeting – 6th vs 13th
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:yes Bart
Patrik Fältström:I am happy
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:🙂
Bernard Turcotte:a little faint
Kimberly Carlson:Roelof's email as well as the Council response can be found here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ccnso.icann.org_en_about_statements.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=Vz60ixHFy77yDH5qC1mm-gECfazW2ARLSNtTjJqL9Ss&s=oNHoJChloYq8UMbSP5wh4S2H-5Me0UGM5aLzHYTKSpk&e=
Patrik Fältström:I will be in better environment in a few minutes. arrived home a bit late. my apologies.
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:I can see the doc already too
Patrik Fältström:I am trying to connect.
Bernard Turcotte:will wait for you for the definition segment
Bernard Turcotte:Patrik are you on?
Patrik Fältström 2:I do not have audio but can see what is written in the chat room.
Bernard Turcotte:are you planning to have audio soon
Bart Boswinkel 2:Should we dial out to you Patrik?
Patrik Fältström 2:The issue here is that in IDNA2003, almost all code points we say are emojis where "undefined" in IDNA2003, and one interpretation of the IDNA2003 standard is that unallocated code points where not allowed in stored strings.
Patrik Fältström 2:undefined == unallocated in this text. Sorry for the sloppyness.
Patrik Fältström 2:I think I have to disconnect and connect again.
Kimberly Carlson:@Patrik, I can also dial out to you as well
Paul Hoffman:Peter: I disagree that this is a "footnote".
Patrik Fältström:Ok, I can listen now! At last!
Patrik Fältström:My point with IDNA2003 and IDNA2008 was that I. just wanted the text about historical issues IDNA2003/IDNA2008 to NOT claim "use of emoji was ok according to IDNA2003". At least it should say "unclear in IDNA2003 and disallowed in IDNA2008". Without going into the detail
Paul Hoffman:I fully agree with what Patrik just said about "unclear" in 2003
Patrik Fältström:Thanks! Crystal clear about 2nd level!
Patrik Fältström:Directionality is discussed, correct. See https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.unicode.org_reports_tr51_tr51-2D15.html-23Direction&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=Vz60ixHFy77yDH5qC1mm-gECfazW2ARLSNtTjJqL9Ss&s=gGuM2aBbNElvtQiG6G1OWoeJIGjX45LnmA_KqfUXtKc&e=
Patrik Fältström:For me it is OK to have a strict quote from Unicode Consoritum. I would like to have the source for that.
Patrik Fältström:If it should be, then remove my changes
jaap akkerhuis:It is from TR #51
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unicode.org_reports_tr51_-23Introduction&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=Vz60ixHFy77yDH5qC1mm-gECfazW2ARLSNtTjJqL9Ss&s=oT6YL0ZiyTO44tUHIKK0Xa0RJnLaqlB7w2Dd9xOY-fc&e=
Bernard Turcotte:old or new hand Patrik?
Patrik Fältström:New
Bernard Turcotte:k
Paul Hoffman:+1 to Patrik about "not in 2008" vs. "emoji"
Patrik Fältström:It might be OK to "discuss emoji as one specific case, because we believe it is possible to extrapolate to other situations".
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Sorry, need to go to another meeting. Will catch up with the recording. Hava a good rest of the day.
Bart Boswinkel:In addition noting this in the text allows the SG to make recommendations on furhter action
Patrik Fältström:Agree Bart!
Patrik Fältström:Good bye Ale!
Patrik Fältström:I can NOT to 6th, but I CAN do 13th
Kimberly Carlson:next call 13th February at 18:30 UTC - will send calendar invite shortly
Patrik Fältström:BIG thanks to Bart and Bernard for the work on the documemnt.
Joke Braeken:thank you all! bye
Bernard Turcotte:bye all
Save Vocea:bye
Patrik Fältström:Bye!
jaap akkerhuis:bye all
Paul Hoffman:Thans and bye!