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Transcript CCWG ACCT #1 19 Jan.doc

Transcript CCWG ACCT #1 19 Jan.pdf

Recording

The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p7lpc643kw5/

The audio recording is available here:  https://icann.box.com/shared/static/1znnzblhewki7gz7z6jruzo4fs9fxj20.mp3

Notes & Action Items

Introductory comments

• Must agree on WS1 vs WS2 categories. 
• Conclude the inventory of contingencies
• Ask colleagues to agree to the ICANN standards of

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• Please state names before speaking

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• Wish to be as inclusive as possible, all colleagues contribute.  All all to speak, provide substantive and not repetitive interventions

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• Asking everyone to use the adobe chat to raise hands etc to make contributions

Comments by Theresa Swinehart

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• Thank you to colleagues for the work the group has done.

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• Challenge to strengthen and improve existing account ability mechanisms.  
• Building consensus over 2 busy and important days.

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Update on CWG (RFP 3B + synchronizing timelines)

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Avri Doria

Review of the CWG working weekend (jan 10-11).  Sense that the group is approaching some consensus.  MRT needs further development on scope.  On Contract Co and various alternate approaches, a new group has started to find and alt approach.

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Independent review.   

Questions remain whether the IRP and even MRT, should they be attach to the IFO (Contract Co) or to the IANA operator.  

Snapshot of CW-Stewardship Accountability dependencies, URL for the shared document sent to the list. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8Pvc/edit?usp=sharing> This is a working document.

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(1) Budget Accountability and Transparency.  

What does IANA costs, how much is spent on serving other communities, is unclear to the CWG.

Under an external solution less need to understand the IANA budget, but essential for internal

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(2) Accountability for (re)delegations

How are (re)delegation decisions made, have they been made properly and how can they be appealed if there's a problem.

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(3) Independent Review of Board Actions

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(4)  Independent Appeals Panel

Specifics are ongoing, function is to deal with contested changes to the Root Zone or its WHOIS Database.  Some sense the CWG is still waiting on the CCWG, potential "deadly embrace" of the two groups.

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(5) Control over ICANN Board decisions.

New section of the document.

Jonathan Robinson CWG co-chairs:

Work coordination between the CWG/CCWG, weekly meeting of the 2 groups co-chairs, exchange of documents.  

Flow chart of the potential work flow of the CWG and CCWG:  https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49352017/Link%20with%20CCWG%20Accountability_Flowchart.pdf?api=v2

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Eventual proposal coming from the CWG will contain "conditional accountability", that is conditions that must be met to maintain the violability of the CWG proposal.

Steve DelBianco

WA2 - map the 5 topics of the CWG-Stewardship accountability dependencies with the inventory.  These may satisfy some or all of the CWG dependencies.

Three issues requested by the CWG early communication, independent review being considered by CCWG may address some of the CWG's 3 issues.  Suggests further discussion.

CCWG aware of need to take care of the different needs of ccTLD and gTLD worlds. 

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Suggestion: presentation on difference in delegation - redelegationre-delegation. Maybe more relevant for CWG. ccNOS Framework of Interpretation contains clarification around delegation and redelegation re-delegation of ccTLDs

Some ccTLDs are very concerned about  redress mechanism, however it was noted it may be needed when ICANN/IAAN does NOT make a decision when required.

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Board process almost similar to wht what NTIA is doing, looking whether process has follwoed followed policy. 

Steve del BiascoBianco: Local community should be anabled enabled to request reconsideration. 

Issue when Local Interent Internet community is not checked, end-users are not consulted.

Jonathan Robinsom Robinson ( co-chair CWG): CWG may need to follow different paths for ccTLD and gTLDs, differnces differences are subtle and need to be taken into account.

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The proposal of the CWG will be reliant on certain accountability being put in place, and that proposal going forward will rely on them being in place.

Action: ask Steve DelBianco questions and seek clarity

Action: task of CCWG to ask where the demarkation exists the demarcation exists between (re)delegation

Finalizing list of contingencies

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2. Relevant to the transition, if so, how?  example: cancelation cancellation of the AoC

3. Of particular concern to stakeholders?

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• co-chars, define threads in contingencies and engage with colleagues with subject expertise to initiate triage of contingencies (anyone can join), clarifity clarify work to be done about eh sub groups

• announcement to gather broader feedback on the contingency list, a call for input. and possibke possible discussion topicfor topic for discussion in Singapore and appearance on the list does not suggest priority

Transcript

Recording

The Adobe Connect recording is available here: 

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ask Steve DelBianco questions and seek clarity

task of CCWG to ask where the demarcation exists between (re)delegation

Documents Presented

CWG-Stewardshipaccountabilityissues-150118-1.pdf

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20150108 CCWG Accountability - Scenarios -WS4coord-MWE-SDB2.pdf

Chat Transcript

Yasuichi Kitamura (At-Large):hi, all.

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