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Sub-group Members: Beran Gillen, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Elizabeth Andrews, Fiona Asgona, Herb Waye, Lito Ibarra, Olga Cavalli, Sebastien Bachollet, Suen Ojedeji. (9)
Staff: Brenda Brewer, Bernard Turcotte, Karen Mulberry, Larisa Gurnick, Lars Hoffmann, Moises Cirilo (Tech Support), Yvette Guigneaux.
Apologies: Rachel Pollack, Carolina Aguerre, Dalia Rahmouni, Rafik Dammak, Par Brumack.
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
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Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://participate.icann.org/p9j4l3ta282/
The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/accountability/ccwg-accountability-diversity-subgroup-14oct16-en.mp3
Agenda
- Introductions (3min)
- Review of previous meeting action items (2min)
- Strawman document discussion: (45min)
- What are your views on the definition of diversity? Agree? Disagree? Explain.
- What elements of diversity are important to ICANN?
- How can ICANN measure the important elements of diversity?
- Way Foward (5min)
- AOB (5min)
Notes
Meeting run by Sebastien on behalf of Fiona
1. Review of previous meeting action items
a) Rapporteurs will develop Strawman based on discussion items raised for group review.-
b) Develop additional diversity data request for Staff assistance
Review and discussion of the two action items from the previous meeting.
2. Strawman document discussion:
- What are your views on the definition of diversity? Agree? Disagree? Explain.
Discussed the importance of having a shared vision of the definition of diversity, in particular the components of what makes up diversity. Considered Staff participation in the discussion on diversity. Proposed considering adding positive discrimination to address diversity concerns.
Questions realized are we able to define diversity on its own or does it need specific elements .
Agreement that there is a need to have a few sentences to describe diversity for ICANN. Also need to consider what are principals separate from the definitions.
NOTE: - agreed to strawman 1st reading.
- What elements of diversity are important to ICANN?
Question raised on what are the additional aspects to consider are the elements of diversity tht need to be identified for ICANN. Example noted when to consider geographic diversity when considering country of birth and then country where a person works and lives.
- How can ICANN measure the important elements of diversity?
3. Way Forward
Need to have further discussion on the elements of diversity that are important to ICANN and to complete the list. The need to identify the elements that are important and those that are measureable
Looking at ICANN the organization and the community
4.AOB
Need to consider the scope, including leadership
Need to make strawman a Google Doc so comments can be added for second reading
Google Doc - Diversity Strawman, available for comment below:
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Yvette Guigneaux:Welcome to the WS2 - Diversity Subgroup Meeting #3 | 19:00 UTC | Friday, 14 October 16!
Yvette Guigneaux:Hi All - I am still one of the hosts and still here in case you need anything
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi all
Yvette Guigneaux:Fiona just let me know when to start the recording
FIONA ASONGA:Hallo Everyone
FIONA ASONGA:Welcome to this call
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thx back on Mute now Yvette
Yvette Guigneaux:ok Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hope tht announce can be turned off it is disruptive mid call as well as occasionlly confusing
Yvette Guigneaux:It sure is Cheryl - I have a ticket already into tech support about that - their working with Adobe to get it changed
Yvette Guigneaux:Fiona, good day - did you want to wait another minute or so for people to join?
FIONA ASONGA:Yvette call me my connection is abit slow
Yvette Guigneaux:ok Fiona, on it right now
Yvette Guigneaux:Connected ok now Fiona?
Yvette Guigneaux:May we test your mic to see if we can hear you properly?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Fiona are you on the audio bridge yet?
Yvette Guigneaux:Fiona - I'm getting a message on this end of a rejected call - are my calls going thru to you?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):if so we are not hearing you
Yvette Guigneaux:Remember to unmute before speaking
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ooops glitch it seems
Brenda Brewer:Please stand by all! Sorry for delay!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):We could hear you briefly Fiona
Yvette Guigneaux:Fiona - we could hear you - are you ready to start the meeting?
Olga Cavalli:hi sorry for being late
FIONA ASONGA 2:Hallo Sorry
FIONA ASONGA 2:I dont seem to be heard
FIONA ASONGA 2:I can hear you
FIONA ASONGA 2:I am unmuted
FIONA ASONGA 2:I support Sabastein's proposal
FIONA ASONGA 2:I suggest Sabastien assists
FIONA ASONGA 2:Thanks you
FIONA ASONGA 2:Apoligies received from Rafik Dammak
Karen Mulberry:will Rafik be joining
FIONA ASONGA 2:Par Brumack
FIONA ASONGA 2:and Racheal Pollack
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Go ahead Sebastien... noting that at 10 past the hour I suggested we at least look on screen at the dics she distributed but it seems no one heard Me !! hmmm audio was checked earlie
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):should read screen docs
Yvette Guigneaux:I will look for some SEbastien
Yvette Guigneaux:right now
FIONA ASONGA 2:Action items from last meeting:
FIONA ASONGA 2: Rapporteurs will develop Strawman based on discussion items raised for group review.- Develop additional diversity data request for Staff assistance
FIONA ASONGA 2:Yes Sabastien
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I had asked at the 10 past intervention for thee AI's to be listed in notes as well *sigh* sorry it seems not just Fiaona's audio bridge is 'fragile'
Herb Waye Ombuds:Hi folks sorry for being late
FIONA ASONGA 2:Yes the 3 questions form the main discussion for today's meeting
Yvette Guigneaux:Action Item from last time if still needed: ACTION ITEM: - Rapporteurs will develop Strawman based on discussion items raised for group review.- Develop additional diversity data request for Staff assistance
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Great thanks the AI's it seems are all 'completed' then
Karen Mulberry:We are working to resolve the issues and hope to have them resolved for this and future meetings
Yvette Guigneaux:Hi All - my apologies on the technical issues - we actually have tech support on this call right now troubleshooting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Go ahead Lars
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):No one doubts the efforts of our Staff Lars but thanks for your endorsement as well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):too er;y to answer thaat yet Lars I believe we have yet to get that far
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):BUT for the record I aam *nt* a supporter of posative discrimination as many people know I am a supporter of reduced barriers to entry and enagement and to positive facilitation with programs outreach et., etc.,
Lars Hoffmann:thanks Cheryl, i appreciate it is early but it might be something to keep in mind before you decide on the criteria. some are more 'implementable' than others.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes Lars for e.g. the term I prefer to often use 'Accessability' when got to best practice assists and facilitates getting diversity for a number of thesee criteria/desirables including geo, disability, language, literacy (tech and other) etc., etc., etc.,
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yeah We hear you Fiona :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes Fiona this all has to be in the context of ICANN this my support for the way the strawman uses the elements after identification...
FIONA ASONGA 2:Agreed Cheryl on geographic
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):So even the "established and easy one" like Geo need some review... EG. why 5 max on a Board or a Committee from an ICANN Region, where the population balances (or countries or Diversity within such a Region) might argue for a greater or lesser ration now as oppossed to when ICANN formed...
Elizabeth Andrews:Hi, all. This is Betsy from the Development and Public Responsibility Department. I just want to be sure you know that we have a gender diversity research pilot and will obviously be happy to provide you with all the reports as they come in, and collaborate and contribute however we can.
Elizabeth Andrews:it's a study of gender diversity within the ICANN ecosystem
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Great Betsy that would no doubt be welcome
Elizabeth Andrews:Also feel free to let me know what areas within gender diversity this group or others might want to see collected about the community and perhaps we can incorporate it into the work that is being done
Herb Waye Ombuds:opposite of diversity is discrimination so maybe think of what ICANN is doing wrong and how it applies to diversity
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Also even with Language (and ICANN does make efforts in that area ) we are limited often by cost management so there are enabllers and barriers when we get to measurement andd implementation in that case the matters of 'fitness for purpose' also need to be looked at
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Good point Herb
Herb Waye Ombuds:Definition is ICANN community and not ICANN organization right?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I assume so Herb bt tht has not been settld yet
Yvette Guigneaux:I believe Herb has a raised hand
Herb Waye Ombuds:ok thanks Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):We can hear you Herb
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):That's really another deffinition to settle on IMO where Herb mentioned Leadership that is often where some things are mentioned...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes lots more to do :-)
Herb Waye Ombuds:By the way I am using Firefox and it is the first time my computer works with Adobe without dropping signal as with Safari and Chrome
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):interesting note Herb
Karen Mulberry:We are out of time and we will need to end the call
Yvette Guigneaux:All - 5 min left
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree they will be meeting CA requirements
Yvette Guigneaux:We did start late but we need to be considerate of those who have other calls and business to attend to - please start ending the call, thank you
Herb Waye Ombuds:Take care all... nice chatting.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone pity about the tech issues but all good progress ... talk again soon bye for now
