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One other thing I wanted to mention was that at 45 minutes past the hour I'm going to have to go outside to pick up my kids.  But I'm going to try this time to so it without disconnecting from call.  However, I will be away from my computer at the time, so hopefully we’ll be involved in a spirited discussion at that point and won't have to worry about it.  Current calls for Working Group membership and public comment. 

Wiki マークアップThere are some mailings that have gone out about various comments.    One of them there is a call for comment on the ALAC statement on .com registry agreement renewal.    That went out on the 15 April.    There's also a call for comments on the At-Large statement on the VeriSign request to implement redemption, also the \ [inaudible 00:03:34\] redemption grace period for .name.    That also went out on the 15{^}th^. ^th. 

If you are uncomfortable making that comment directly to the At-Large, you can email it to me if you like.  But I don’t think anyone here is necessarily uncomfortable doing that.   There have also been a couple of At-Large votes.  The At-Large voted to make a statement on the Fake Renewal Notices Report.  That actually is an announcement of the vote.  The vote hasn’t happened yet.  Maybe we can get a little more of an update from that from our At-Large representative. 

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Beau Brendler:                        Oh okay anybody have any more updated information than that?   Yes Heidi?

Wiki マークアップHeidi Ullrich:                          I believe that there is going to be a statement from \[inaudible Heidi Ullrich:                          I believe that there is going to be a statement from [inaudible 00:06:23\], later today.  

Beau Brendler:                        Okay I see also Garth has posted a link to a story in Arts Technica.  So that’s good to see, that’s great.  Does anybody have any update or anything they want to share about their own current experiences with the new gTLD program?  I don’t believe we have our representative from, Dr. Greene here with us today, but is there anyone else?  Okay so let's go down the agenda here, ALAC statement on the reservation of Olympic and Red Cross names in the TLD applications procedure. 

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Beau Brendler:                        I appreciate it, thank you Olivier.  I very much appreciate that update and hopefully everything will turn out well.  And we certainly are proud of the work that our Board member has done for us.  Hopefully that will have positive outcomes.  Looking at the list, I think we are lucky enough or actually before we proceed on the agenda, I see in the chat that Evan has posted a line “I still stand by my recommendation” oh I think that’s in reference to travel issue which we will get to a bit later. 

Wiki マークアップA-3 WHOIS Policy Review Team Draft Report and we are lucky enough, just in the nick of time to have Seth Reiss, it's our own \ [inaudible 00:15:59\] with his distinctive voice and handsome face and cheerful Hawaii demeanor, can you give us an update from the sunny island on the WHOIS Policy Review Team?

Seth Reiss:                              Okay sure.  Luckily I was paying attention.  I think we’re still revising our final draft and we’re a couple of weeks away.  We’re scheduled to have the final draft at the end of the month.  We’re taking into consideration all the comments we've received.  And I think that’s including the comments from the ALAC.  I know it's considering all the comments.  I think that’s all I can report. 

We’re struggling with the final changes.  I think many of the changes are in the area of the proxy privacy, the interface and the internationalized domain name issues as they relate to the WHOIS.  I can answer any question if there are any. 

Wiki マークアップBeau Brendler:                        Actually I have one Seth, would you just mind for the edification of the group here, can you tell us what ‘thick’ WHOIS versus general WHOIS?  Is that within the \[inaudible Beau Brendler:                        Actually I have one Seth, would you just mind for the edification of the group here, can you tell us what ‘thick’ WHOIS versus general WHOIS?  Is that within the [inaudible 00:17:22\]?

Seth Reiss:                              Yes well it's one of the things we looked at and it does relate to one of our recommendations.  I think it's a question that was asked very early on and I guess it still confounds people.  A ‘thick’ WHOIS is a WHOIS that has all the information available that is maintained which are the registrant name, the registrant contact information, administrative name, the billing name, contact information, the registration date, renewal date, that sort of thing, so all the information that’s maintained in WHOIS. 

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Alan Greenberg:                      Yes okay thank you for clarity regarding ‘thick’ WHOIS and ‘thin’ WHOIS, they both, if everything is operating properly, they both have the same net effect, that is all the information is available.  The difference is that in ‘thin’ WHOIS most of the interesting information is stored by the registrar and therefore it's up to the registrar to ensure that information is in fact there and it is only accessible at any given moment if the registrar’s site is accessible and useful. 

Wiki マークアップIn ‘thick’ WHOIS it's purely up to the registry to make sure that the information is available \ [inaudible 00:20:34\].    The validity of the information is still contributed by the registrar but it's stored in the registry.    In a ‘thin’ WHOIS if the registrar is not fulfilling their obligations, the information may not be available at all, thank you.

Seth Reiss:                              Yes I agree with Alan, that’s a further clarification and that’s correct. 

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Beau Brendler:                        Thank you Olivier.  Anyone have any additional comments on that issue at all?  It doesn’t look like we do.  Moving on then to Item 6, Draft ALAC Statement on the IDN Variant Issues Project, this falls quite far outside my area of expertise.   I don’t have anything to report on that other than what is here that the ALAC vote closes on 27 April.  If you have any questions or issues related to that you can let us know.  Olivier I see your hand up? 

Wiki マークアップIt's down, okay.    Moving on then to C - currently open policy forms, the ALAC is considering the Second Annual IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process.    Comment period closes on 30 April.  The \  The [inaudible 00:26:59\] Post Agreement Amendment             comment period closes 9 May.  Is anyone in the weeds on .post who would like to say anything about it or offer up any insights? Agreement Amendment             comment period closes 9 May.  Is anyone in the weeds on .post who would like to say anything about it or offer up any insights? 

Alan Greenberg:                      I'm not at my computer, I can talk about it.  I don’t have any particular position to take on it.  but I can -

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As Chair of the ALAC I've seen this now happen with two regions so far and it's just been quite incredible to see people at the beginning of the week and then at the end of the week and their view of the way things work having changed completely.  And certainly knowledge coming straight to them, is something they've been very happy about.  That’s it, thank you.

Beau Brendler:                        Excellent.  Evan you had something to add? Wiki マークアップEvan Leibovitch:                     Well actually I had an issue for any other business.  But the timing is good since it relates exactly to what Olivier had said, and that is there is absolutely nothing on the agenda that talks about preparation for Toronto.  I guess I just wanted to ask this group if there are any plans, before San Francisco, Eduardo you’ve lead a very good team that was doing the Showcase there.  We've got \[inaudible 00:51:38\] there. Brendler:                        Excellent.  Evan you had something to add?

Evan Leibovitch:                     Well actually I had an issue for any other business.  But the timing is good since it relates exactly to what Olivier had said, and that is there is absolutely nothing on the agenda that talks about preparation for Toronto.  I guess I just wanted to ask this group if there are any plans, before San Francisco, Eduardo you’ve lead a very good team that was doing the Showcase there.  We've got [inaudible 00:51:38] there. 

We had an awful lot of work done.  Now to my knowledge, there haven’t been any North American ALSs added since San Francisco.  So I'm almost wondering if there is starting to be a bit of what I call Showcase burnout.   EURALO is not doing a Showcase in Prague.  And I think we need to start making a decision relatively soon whether or not we want to have another event for Toronto of this kind or not. 

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And so that is why I'm suggesting that we - if we can by any means have Dev to attend Prague that it is going to benefit all of At-Large by having him there.  Not to belittle anybody here that is not funded but just given what's happening with the gTLD process and the need to have a good objection process in place, that’s why I'm recommending that Dev be given our allotment. 

Darlene Thompson:                Okay Eduardo?

Wiki マークアップEduardo Diaz:                         Yes this is a clarification point.  I'm confused.  If LACRALO is having their general elections before Prague, because otherwise if that is the case because Dev is the Secretariat of that organization. \[Inaudible 00:55:48\have a good objection process in place, that’s why I'm recommending that Dev be given our allotment. 

Darlene Thompson:                Okay Eduardo?

Eduardo Diaz:                         Yes this is a clarification point.  I'm confused.  If LACRALO is having their general elections before Prague, because otherwise if that is the case because Dev is the Secretariat of that organization. [Inaudible 00:55:48]

Evan Leibovitch:                     Eduardo, I can answer that.  Before actually making the recommendation I asked about this specifically and while the LACRALO ALAC representatives are going to be elected and will see it along with other new terms starting after the Toronto meeting, LACRALO is going through its elections now and as of this moment, according to the LACRALO bylaws, Dev is not Secretariats, so he is not funded for Prague.  I triple checked that before making this request.unmigrated-wiki-markup

Eduardo Diaz:                         So that means that the LACRALO doesn’t have any Secretariats \[inaudible Diaz:                         So that means that the LACRALO doesn’t have any Secretariats [inaudible 00:56:31\] as of this moment?  

Evan Leibovitch:                     That’s possible.  I'm just going based on what I've been told, that Dev is not funded to go.  Whether or not how LACRALO has chosen to fill that spot is up the region.  The one thing that I know is that it's not going to be Dev.  And I'm suggesting that if we can help it that we need to get him there.

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Beau Brendler:                        A week okay, well then let's make it stand as it is then, based on what I'm hearing from this group there is some regional consensus but let's take say until Thursday for anyone who wishes to make a different recommendation or such to email myself and Darlene and we will handle it with discretion.  Anything else?  We are not five minutes past the hour, so if there isn’t anything else I would say that we should bid each other adieu until next month.  Anything else?  Very good, thank you for your time and thanks also to the person who fleshed out the agenda.  I don't know who that was but I'm glad that you did it.  And it's a good model for the next one so we’ll keep to it, thank you.unmigrated-wiki-markup

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