Sub-group Members:     Avri Doria, Becky Burr, David McAuley, David Post, Greg Shatan, Jeff LeVee (Jones Day), Kavouss Arasteh, Liz Le, Malcolm Hutty, Marianne Georgelin, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner

Staff:  Alice Jansen, Bernie Turcotte, Berry Cobb, Brenda BrewerStaff:  

Apologies:  Olga Cavalli

**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**

Transcript

Recording

• The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4zru3re8qe/

• The audio recording is available here:  

Agenda

1.  Welcome and organizational issues (meeting times, frequency, working methodology)

2.  Update on bylaws draft

3.  Research and resources

Notes

Documents Presented

Chat Transcript

  Brenda Brewer: (1/14/2016 11:25) Welcome all to IRP Implementation Oversite Team (IOT) Meeting #1 on Thursday, 14 January 2016 @ 18:00 UTC!  Chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:58) hello all

  Kavouss Arasteh: (11:59) Hi Every body

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:00) Hi Everybody

  Malcolm Hutty: (12:00) hello

  Becky Burr: (12:00) hello all

  Marianne Georgelin: (12:00) Hello

  David McAuley: (12:01) Hello all

  Greg Shatan: (12:01) Hello all.

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:01) Dear BRENDA

  David McAuley: (12:01) ok sounds good

  David Post: (12:01) hi

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:01)  I AM DISCONNECTED

  Brenda Brewer: (12:02) Thank you...calling Kavouss back

  Greg Shatan: (12:02) To avoid confusion witn the "Internet of Things" I suggest this group be renamed "IRP Development & Implementation Oversight Team".

  Greg Shatan: (12:03) Of course, that means the acronym is....

  Greg Shatan: (12:03) IDIOT.

  Avri Doria: (12:03) me too especially since i do research on IOT

  David McAuley: (12:03) +1 Greg

  Greg Shatan: (12:03) We can call it DIOT instead....  :-)

  Avri Doria: (12:04) i like idiot

  Malcolm Hutty: (12:04) idiot works for me :-)

  David McAuley: (12:05) Reminds me of my days in management where I frequently said if I wanted an idiot to do it I would have done it myself

  Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:05) :-)

  David McAuley: (12:05) audio?

  David McAuley: (12:05) now back

  Samantha Eisner: (12:07) Could we rotate between 2 times?

  David McAuley: (12:07) good idea

  David McAuley: (12:08) I like the idea Becky, for the resons you give

  David McAuley: (12:08) reasons

  David McAuley: (12:09) Moving to phone - several audio interruptions

  Avri Doria: (12:11) Am I the only one having silent patches in the audio?

  David McAuley: (12:12) I had them Avri - now on phone which is fine

  Becky Burr: (12:14) hello Kavouss

  Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:14) audio problems here

  Marianne Georgelin: (12:14) many audio interruptions

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:14) indeed

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:15) who is speaking please

  Becky Burr: (12:15) Jeff LeVee - Jones Day

  Greg Shatan: (12:16) Did I hear Jones Day offering a discount?  :-)

  Becky Burr: (12:16) is the audio fixed?

  Greg Shatan: (12:16) More seriously, the views of the "IRP Bar" would be useful.  Who are the 3 Jeff is thinking of?

  Brenda Brewer: (12:17) The audio issue is on Adobe only.  The phone lines do not have audio issues.

  Marianne Georgelin: (12:17) I switched to phone. Far better

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:18)  bREDA

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:18) i AM DISCONNECTED AGAIN

  Brenda Brewer: (12:18) Operator is calling you back Kavouss.  Thank you.

  Jeff LeVee (Jones Day): (12:18) The 3 lawyers who have been most active in representing claimants are:  John Genga (based in LA), Arif Ali (Dechert based in DC), and Flip Petillion (Crowell, based in Brussels).

  David McAuley: (12:18) +1 Jeff, Greg, Becky on tapping into experience

  David Post: (12:19) +1 - good idea to have a "panel" with prior IRP participants

  David Post: (12:20) useful to get their take on what worked, what didn't, etc.

  David Post: (12:20) and good idea to do that at the outset

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:21) bRINGING THESE lAWYERS WOULD BRING ENRICHMENT TO OUR WORK

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:21) Ithus support he idea

  Becky Burr: (12:21) please mute unless you are speaking

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:23) Could we have a very vbrief 7 execute summary of the type of the works which these people were involved and contributed to in order to have a comaparision with respect to the scope of the works and similarity of the subjects which were discussed

  Becky Burr: (12:24) yes, Kavouss.  Will create and circulate

  David McAuley: (12:24) I may have been confused on "panel"

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:25) PERHAPS THE PARTICIPATION OF THESE RESPECTFUL LAWYERS SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN THAT OUR OWN LAWYERS FOLLOWED

  David Post: (12:27) i support this idea - to get some general input from some prior IRP panel members

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:28) Kavous - please note that under informal chat rules all capitals is equivalent with screaming

  David McAuley: (12:28) One thing we may want to consider and recommend to CCWG is the idea that we build an IRP review into the process to tweak the system in two-years (?) time to make sure procedural rules are meeting our expectations and panelists are ruling within jurisdictional limits

  Becky Burr: (12:29) yes, ongoing review is part of the process

  David McAuley: (12:29) good, thanks Becky

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:29) Yes ,it is good to know how these various entities( expert Panel, Standing Panels and other Type of Paels ) functioned. How their personal views were managed not to dominate the expecxted expertise /Lega Vies)(

  Malcolm Hutty: (12:30) agree with avoiding anyone who is a panelist on an active case

  Avri Doria: (12:30) would also be good to hear from these folks what they thought did not work well in our context and what they wished had been different.

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:30) May we, in the resume, have a very brief descrition of the cases which were treated and any inconsistencies identified

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) Becky,

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) It is a good idea

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) I am again disconnected

  Kavouss Arasteh: (12:33) Swiss Line is almost stable

  David McAuley: (12:34) Thanks Becky and all

  Marianne Georgelin: (12:34) Thank you Becky

  Greg Shatan: (12:34) We need to discuss deliverables.

  Malcolm Hutty: (12:34) thank you everyone, Becky!

  David Post: (12:34) thanks all

  Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:34) Thanks, Becky and all!

  Avri Doria: (12:34) bye, thanks

  Becky Burr: (12:34) good point greg - but i think we need a bit more information