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Attendees:
Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, Becky Burr, David McAuley, David Post, Greg Shatan, Jeff LeVee (Jones Day), Kavouss Arasteh, Liz Le, Malcolm Hutty, Marianne Georgelin, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner
Staff: Alice Jansen, Bernie Turcotte, Berry Cobb, Brenda BrewerStaff:
Apologies: Olga Cavalli
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p4zru3re8qe/
The audio recording is available here:
Agenda
1. Welcome and organizational issues (meeting times, frequency, working methodology)
2. Update on bylaws draft
3. Research and resources
Notes
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (1/14/2016 11:25) Welcome all to IRP Implementation Oversite Team (IOT) Meeting #1 on Thursday, 14 January 2016 @ 18:00 UTC! Chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:58) hello all
Kavouss Arasteh: (11:59) Hi Every body
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:00) Hi Everybody
Malcolm Hutty: (12:00) hello
Becky Burr: (12:00) hello all
Marianne Georgelin: (12:00) Hello
David McAuley: (12:01) Hello all
Greg Shatan: (12:01) Hello all.
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:01) Dear BRENDA
David McAuley: (12:01) ok sounds good
David Post: (12:01) hi
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:01) I AM DISCONNECTED
Brenda Brewer: (12:02) Thank you...calling Kavouss back
Greg Shatan: (12:02) To avoid confusion witn the "Internet of Things" I suggest this group be renamed "IRP Development & Implementation Oversight Team".
Greg Shatan: (12:03) Of course, that means the acronym is....
Greg Shatan: (12:03) IDIOT.
Avri Doria: (12:03) me too especially since i do research on IOT
David McAuley: (12:03) +1 Greg
Greg Shatan: (12:03) We can call it DIOT instead.... :-)
Avri Doria: (12:04) i like idiot
Malcolm Hutty: (12:04) idiot works for me :-)
David McAuley: (12:05) Reminds me of my days in management where I frequently said if I wanted an idiot to do it I would have done it myself
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:05) :-)
David McAuley: (12:05) audio?
David McAuley: (12:05) now back
Samantha Eisner: (12:07) Could we rotate between 2 times?
David McAuley: (12:07) good idea
David McAuley: (12:08) I like the idea Becky, for the resons you give
David McAuley: (12:08) reasons
David McAuley: (12:09) Moving to phone - several audio interruptions
Avri Doria: (12:11) Am I the only one having silent patches in the audio?
David McAuley: (12:12) I had them Avri - now on phone which is fine
Becky Burr: (12:14) hello Kavouss
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:14) audio problems here
Marianne Georgelin: (12:14) many audio interruptions
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:14) indeed
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:15) who is speaking please
Becky Burr: (12:15) Jeff LeVee - Jones Day
Greg Shatan: (12:16) Did I hear Jones Day offering a discount? :-)
Becky Burr: (12:16) is the audio fixed?
Greg Shatan: (12:16) More seriously, the views of the "IRP Bar" would be useful. Who are the 3 Jeff is thinking of?
Brenda Brewer: (12:17) The audio issue is on Adobe only. The phone lines do not have audio issues.
Marianne Georgelin: (12:17) I switched to phone. Far better
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:18) bREDA
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:18) i AM DISCONNECTED AGAIN
Brenda Brewer: (12:18) Operator is calling you back Kavouss. Thank you.
Jeff LeVee (Jones Day): (12:18) The 3 lawyers who have been most active in representing claimants are: John Genga (based in LA), Arif Ali (Dechert based in DC), and Flip Petillion (Crowell, based in Brussels).
David McAuley: (12:18) +1 Jeff, Greg, Becky on tapping into experience
David Post: (12:19) +1 - good idea to have a "panel" with prior IRP participants
David Post: (12:20) useful to get their take on what worked, what didn't, etc.
David Post: (12:20) and good idea to do that at the outset
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:21) bRINGING THESE lAWYERS WOULD BRING ENRICHMENT TO OUR WORK
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:21) Ithus support he idea
Becky Burr: (12:21) please mute unless you are speaking
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:23) Could we have a very vbrief 7 execute summary of the type of the works which these people were involved and contributed to in order to have a comaparision with respect to the scope of the works and similarity of the subjects which were discussed
Becky Burr: (12:24) yes, Kavouss. Will create and circulate
David McAuley: (12:24) I may have been confused on "panel"
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:25) PERHAPS THE PARTICIPATION OF THESE RESPECTFUL LAWYERS SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN THAT OUR OWN LAWYERS FOLLOWED
David Post: (12:27) i support this idea - to get some general input from some prior IRP panel members
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (12:28) Kavous - please note that under informal chat rules all capitals is equivalent with screaming
David McAuley: (12:28) One thing we may want to consider and recommend to CCWG is the idea that we build an IRP review into the process to tweak the system in two-years (?) time to make sure procedural rules are meeting our expectations and panelists are ruling within jurisdictional limits
Becky Burr: (12:29) yes, ongoing review is part of the process
David McAuley: (12:29) good, thanks Becky
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:29) Yes ,it is good to know how these various entities( expert Panel, Standing Panels and other Type of Paels ) functioned. How their personal views were managed not to dominate the expecxted expertise /Lega Vies)(
Malcolm Hutty: (12:30) agree with avoiding anyone who is a panelist on an active case
Avri Doria: (12:30) would also be good to hear from these folks what they thought did not work well in our context and what they wished had been different.
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:30) May we, in the resume, have a very brief descrition of the cases which were treated and any inconsistencies identified
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) Becky,
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) It is a good idea
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:32) I am again disconnected
Kavouss Arasteh: (12:33) Swiss Line is almost stable
David McAuley: (12:34) Thanks Becky and all
Marianne Georgelin: (12:34) Thank you Becky
Greg Shatan: (12:34) We need to discuss deliverables.
Malcolm Hutty: (12:34) thank you everyone, Becky!
David Post: (12:34) thanks all
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (12:34) Thanks, Becky and all!
Avri Doria: (12:34) bye, thanks
Becky Burr: (12:34) good point greg - but i think we need a bit more information