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The Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP): http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/transfers (NOTE: Please also check the GNSO's Active Projects page for the status of ongoing work on IRTP-B, IRTP-C and IRTP-D: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active)

MP3 Recording: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140422-en.mp3

Meeting Transcript: TBA

Attendees: 

Luc Seufer - RrSG

Graeme Bunton – RrSG

Tim Ruiz – RrSG

Steve Metalitz - IPC

Kathy Kleiman – RySG

Darcy Southwell - RrSG

Libby Baney - BC

Susan Prosser – RrSG

Justin Macy – BC

Jim Bikoff – IPC

David Heasley – IPC

Michele Neylon – RrSG

Jennifer Standiford – RrSG

James Bladel – RrSG

Volker Greimann – RrSG

Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG

Paul McGrady – IPC

Tobias Sattler – RrSG

Phil Marano – IPC

Christain Dawson – ISPCP

Don Blumenthal – RySG

Griffin Barnett – IPC

Valeriya Sherman – IPC

Amr Elsadr – NCUC

Maria Farrell – NCUC

Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC

Todd Williams – IPC

Don Moody – IPC

Michael Palage – RySG

Alex Deacon – IPC

Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC

Apologies:

Gema Campillos – GAC

Kristina Rosette – IPC

Sarah Wyld – RrSG

Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP

ICANN staff:

Marika Konings

Mary Wong

Amy Bivins

Joe Catapano

Terri Agnew

Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 22 April 2014:

  Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 22 April 2014

  Amr Elsadr:Yes. Hello.

  Graeme Bunton:G'mornin all

  Bladel:g'mornin' y'all

  Michele Neylon:Getting more coffee

  Michele Neylon:but listening

  Alex Deacon:Good morning.

  Terri Agnew:Tim Ruiz has joined audio

  Tim Ruiz:I am now also on adobe.

  Terri Agnew:Jennifer standiford has joined

  Jennifer Standiford:good morning

  Bladel:More of a notification at this point. :)

  Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined

  Terri Agnew:Volker Greimann has joined

  Volker Greimann:sorry for my lateness

  Kathy K:we're not looking for perfect - just good, workable and hopefully as automated as easy as possible

  Volker Greimann:Tim: I'd put them in the "nice to have" category

  Darcy Southwell:One concern I have with this idea is that, if the transfer fails, we now have our privacy service information listed without any connection to a P/P customer that we have.

  Tim Ruiz:@Volker, right.

  Bladel:Agree with Tim.  IF you suppor this, here are some uniform standards.  But agree we shouldn't require feature sets.

  Terri Agnew:Maria Farrell has joined

  Volker Greimann:I would see it as a recommendation according to these lines: "To enable privacy protection during transfers, the gaining/losing registrar may...."

  Bladel:I think we should address Steve's first point:  Is this a matter of policy or product development/innovation?

  Paul McGrady:I would be happy to be in that offline subgroup if everyone decides we should have one

  Terri Agnew:Marie-Laure Lemineur has joined

  Volker Greimann:that way we could implement policy excemptions to transfer policies, RAA requirements, etc.

  Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Apologies for the being late

  steve metalitz:I am open to making this an accreditation requirement IF there is a practical way to do it.  The purpose of the subgroup would be to answer whether it is practical. 

  steve metalitz:"This" = enabling transfer without losing p/p protection. 

  Kathy K:Agree with Steve!

  Paul McGrady:Agree with Steve and Kathy

  Amr Elsadr:Also agree with Steve.

  Val Sherman:+1 @Steve

  Tim Ruiz:Could we not just say that all notices required via RAA or Policy by ICANN should be relayed?

  Darcy Southwell:Agree with Steve, Kathy, and Tim.

  Kathy K:If the

  Kathy K:Registrant has the AuthInfo code, does that help?

  Kathy K:Is there an AuthInfo code for the Redemption Grace Period?

  Michele Neylon:You can't transfer during redemption

  Kathy K:+1 Tim - and tx you!

  Kathy K:Michele, tx for clarification.

  Kathy K:Understand

  Tim Ruiz:Conditions under which a p/p would terminate its service should be REQUIRED to be communicated to the beneficial user. But providing for non-diclosure of their data if transfering should only be suggested, or at most a best practice recommendation.

  Kathy K:Interesting, can we factor in Tim's information?

  Kathy K:In this case too, it seems there is no reason to disclose the underlying personal data of the Registrant

  Michele Neylon:I'll shove my comment in the chat

  Michele Neylon:Can you force me to do business with someone?

  Michele Neylon:We're a private company

  Michele Neylon:We could say that we don't support a particular type of software

  Michele Neylon:0h wait - we do that already :)

  Bladel:correct.

  Kathy K:+1 to Steve's suggestion for a subgroup on Transfers. I volunteer.

  Tim Ruiz:No objection to "small" group looking at the transfer issues as a whole, but will it be small?

  Bladel:I agree Michele.  Then that takes "mandatory" privacy/proxy service transfers off the table.

  Tim Ruiz:Don't we require registries to deal with all registrars except under certain specific situations.

  Michele Neylon:Thankfully KS is a reseller / wholesaler so they have experience

  Michele Neylon:Tim - they have to abuse us all equally

  Tim Ruiz:Exactly. So should we not have to abuse all accredited p/p services equally.

  Paul McGrady:Great call! Thanks everyone.

  Kathy K:Great, tx Don and All!

  Michele Neylon:We don't have to offer all TLDs

  Phil Marano:Thank you.

  Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:thank you Don

  Mary Wong:Thanks everyone.

  Michele Neylon:But it's an interesting question ..

  Michele Neylon:*gone*

  Tobias Sattler:Bye