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Such and there are the in progress long-term goals are ones which we will actually see in the ALAC action items and we'll move them also to long-term goals.  But first the open action items, number 1, staff to update list of cross-constituency working groups on the ALAC wiki page.  Ongoing in fact for those of you who were on the ALAC call two days ago same action item as this one so it is ongoing.  You can go to number 2, Cheryl to manage winding up and archiving working groups to be closed.  Matt to schedule time to work with Cheryl on this. 

Wiki MarkupThat's ongoing as well and in fact what I did say on the ALAC call yesterday, was it yesterday or the day before yesterday, it just feels like a long tunnel, a while ago let's say was that, the while being a few hours maybe that we're also, Matt is also working to getting the actual \ [inaudible 0:02:35\] I think we'll all be happy about that.    Number 3, Evan to follow up with \ [inaudible 0:02:42\] on the sharing and the reprioritization of the At-Large Registrant Rights and Responsibilities Working Group.  

Evan yesterday you said you were going to follow up.  I know that we actually sent an email, Matt sent an email to Beau.  I'm not sure whether, I certainly haven't received a copy of an answer.  Have we had anything from Beau?

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Heidi Ullrich:                          Hi Olivier this is Heidi, Matt's not on the call yet.  I believe that is the case and staff were CC'd and I've not seen any reply.unmigrated-wiki-markup

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          No particular reply, okay thank you.  I'm sorry I didn't note it that Matt wasn't there.  Okay fantastic.  Well not that fantastic, it would be better to have an answer but fantastic that we've actually followed up on this.  So number 3 is ongoing.  Number 4, Alan to send a message to Xavier Calvez regarding the pooling of budgets for the \[inaudible 0:04:15\] events.           No particular reply, okay thank you.  I'm sorry I didn't note it that Matt wasn't there.  Okay fantastic.  Well not that fantastic, it would be better to have an answer but fantastic that we've actually followed up on this.  So number 3 is ongoing.  Number 4, Alan to send a message to Xavier Calvez regarding the pooling of budgets for the [inaudible 0:04:15] events. 

He's done that fantastic message, thank you very much Alan and this can be marked as being done.  Number 5, Olivier to follow up with ASO chair Louie Lee on further cross-constituency work.  I have sent Louie an email.  I have not had a reply from him.  Let's keep this as ongoing.  I will follow up on that.  Number 6, staff to work with Cheryl in preparation of the rules of procedure working group.  There is going to be a call for membership as was mentioned on the ALAC call.  That's going to start in January.  Is that correct?  And I see Heidi has raised her hand.

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Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          It's correct says Cheryl but Heidi you wish to add something.

Wiki MarkupHeidi Ullrich:                          Just to let everyone know that Silvia Vivanco given her legal background will be assisting Cheryl with that working group and she stands ready, Cheryl whenever you wish to do the call for membership, etc.  I mean we actually already announced it on the \[inaudible 0:05:22\] call this past week.  As this is an ALAC action item I believe \[inaudible 0:05:29\].  Yeah, so we've already done Ullrich:                          Just to let everyone know that Silvia Vivanco given her legal background will be assisting Cheryl with that working group and she stands ready, Cheryl whenever you wish to do the call for membership, etc.  I mean we actually already announced it on the [inaudible 0:05:22] call this past week.  As this is an ALAC action item I believe [inaudible 0:05:29].  Yeah, so we've already done that.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              Yes.

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Perfect so.

Wiki MarkupCheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[Inaudible 0:05:36\:              [Inaudible 0:05:36].

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay thank you Cheryl.

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Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          May I just ask if there was \[inaudible           May I just ask if there was [inaudible 0:05:50\] for membership? Wiki Markup

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[inaudible               [inaudible 0:05:54\] till January.

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Ah okay.unmigrated-wiki-markup

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              It's a formal \[inaudible               It's a formal [inaudible 0:05:57\] till January but they need to start, every one of these regional meetings needs to have it on the agenda so people are prepped and ready.

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay so then Cheryl we can leave this as being ongoing I guess so we'll review it in January.

Wiki MarkupCheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[inaudible 0:06:16\].              [inaudible 0:06:16].

Olivier Crepin-Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Number 7, Olivier to ask the regions for input on the framework of interpretation working group interim report.  There was, a question was sent out, we didn't get anything back.  I don't believe that we've actually written anything as a result.  Cheryl.unmigrated-wiki-markup

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[inaudible               [inaudible 0:06:39\] off the transcript record.    I have in fact received an email from Beau saying would I pass on something but not to the \ [inaudible 0:06:48\] in my capacity as liaison there but the SLI workgroup I responded saying send me a clean copy of whatever it is you wish to send because the only copy I have was the \ [inaudible 0:07:04\] call draft or discussion and I will ensure that it gets to the SLI workgroup and the leadership team thereof.    I yet to have that supplied to me but when I get that I will do as is necessary with it in terms of passing it on.  

Just to point out again that we are just closing or about to close the end of this month the public comment from the SLI workgroup on the term consent, just term consent, and in the January period a new public comment will start for significantly interested parties.  So each one of these terminologies are going to be worked on separately and there will be public comments for every single terminology that is dealt with.  So we've moved on to the next one but the rest of the world will be waiting for public comments for significantly interested parties and they'll run probably 45 days or so in January.  Thank you.unmigrated-wiki-markup

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Thank you very much for this update Cheryl.  And so 7 can be marked as being done.  Number 8, Olivier to write to Steve Crocker, chair of the ICANN board starting discussions for templates for statement and share reports.  That I have not done yet I must admit although I did have tea with Steve a few weeks ago.  There were more \[inaudible 0:08:41\].  Number 9, Olivier helped by At-Large staff to email new ALAC members and ask that they repopulate the working groups, a standing requirement for new members.  And on this I'm glad to say that several members are now populating the groups.           Thank you very much for this update Cheryl.  And so 7 can be marked as being done.  Number 8, Olivier to write to Steve Crocker, chair of the ICANN board starting discussions for templates for statement and share reports.  That I have not done yet I must admit although I did have tea with Steve a few weeks ago.  There were more [inaudible 0:08:41].  Number 9, Olivier helped by At-Large staff to email new ALAC members and ask that they repopulate the working groups, a standing requirement for new members.  And on this I'm glad to say that several members are now populating the groups. 

We haven't done an audit of who of the ALAC members is not populated any group yet.  Perhaps could I ask staff to if they can when they have time because I know bandwidth is of particular concern at the moment but perhaps something that could be done in there, actually will staff be manning ICANN between the Christmas and New Year period or is everyone on holiday?

Heidi Ullrich:                          Well everyone is officially on holiday but we will be monitoring emails I suppose.

Wiki MarkupCheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[inaudible 0:09:46\].              [inaudible 0:09:46].

Heidi Ullrich:                          Heidi Ullrich:                          But also I do note that there is the ‘thick’ WHOIS that is due on the 30th so I'm sure Matt will need to follow up with that.

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay thank you Heidi.  I was asking this question because I didn't want to lumber some more work such as going through the various lists and finding out what ALAC members are not actually populating working groups at the moment and then chasing them up.  But this I guess could probably be done in January when we're all back and the New Year has started.  Cheryl you've put your hand up?unmigrated-wiki-markup

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              Yes I have thank you.  I think this is to some extent almost part of the January/February work on the wiki's that Matt will be doing and is not \[inaudible               Yes I have thank you.  I think this is to some extent almost part of the January/February work on the wiki's that Matt will be doing and is not [inaudible 0:10:35\] wrap-up work as well as the reorganizational work.    In the wrap-up work we've developed a template which still needs a bit of tweaking but that template in itself has a more effective and efficient way of listing members past and current and of course linked to each of those names will be the new bios.    So there's a whole lot threads coming together.    I continue on it but I wouldn't push for a shortened date that's all.

Wiki MarkupOlivier Crepin-Leblond:                    Okay, thank you Cheryl.    And so we'll move to the next section item number 10, Olivier to write to the chair of the new gTLD and \ [inaudible 0:11:26\] working group regarding \ [inaudible 0:11:28\] request for a JAS implementation follow up.    That's been done.    In fact there's been a lot of progress on this and we will probably be speaking about this a little bit later in our call if I can check our agenda quickly.    Yeah we'll do a follow up from the \ [inaudible 0:11:49\] meeting of the 20th of December and we'll have a quick discussion on this.  

And then the newly assigned action items, there are three of them; improvements task force members to create a glossary of commonly used nomenclature, Louie Lee to be consulted, that's of course an improvement task force item.  That will have to be just passed on to the improvements task force.  I don't think it should remain in the ALAC action items.  Then Alan Greenberg to lead a small group including the whole executive committee to produce a response to the JAS implementation proposal. unmigrated-wiki-markup

In fact response was led by the chair of the new gTLD At-Large work group and that was \ [inaudible 0:12:38\] and the response was sent.    And that's of course related to the writing to the chair of the new gTLD At-Large working group.    And then Olivier to write to Beau Brendler and ask him to follow up on the issue of registrant rights to get this issue to move forward and to place it within \ [inaudible 0:12:59\] IRA reports as we've heard earlier that's ongoing.    I now invite you all if there are no comments about these action items I invite you to look at the 20th of December ALAC action items.  

And so here we will again look at the open action items and may I ask that a number of them will actually be moved to the long-term open action items such as well staff to update list of cross-constituency working group such as Cheryl to manage winding up and archiving working groups to be closed.  Well I hope that go to chair and repopulate the At-Large registrant rights and responsibilities working group is not going to be an ongoing long-term action item. 

Wiki MarkupHopefully that will be short-term.  \  [Inaudible 0:13:56\] to synchronize At-Large's calendar of events with global partnerships calendar.    Perhaps that can be said as being in progress and a long-term thing as well.    ALAC to try to develop specific long-term strategic plan for outreach.    Well that actually has the word long-term strategic plan and this again is a long-term item that can be moved to long-term.    In fact we have in the other, on the other, on the ex-com action items. unmigrated-wiki-markup 

And then At-Large staff we're looking at number 6, At-Large staff to conduct a vote on the SOI and COI question.    Question to be do you agree that ALAC members, ex-com members, regional leadership and liaisons should have an SOI publish on the ICANN website.    Any comments on this?    I believe that Gisella has put on the chat that staff is preparing that vote regarding action item number 6.    Now newly assigned action items at the bottom of the page.    Staff to set up a call on the new gTLD statement proposed by Evan Leibovitch.  \  [Inaudible 0:15:09\] is to be sent after the 1st of January, 2012 I think probably because 2011 has already past.  

The intent of having the call the second week of January, staff could change 2011 to 2012 that would be great.  Matt Ashtiani to conduct a vote on the JIG workgroup motion by the 27th of December, 2011.  Heidi any update on this?

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Heidi Ullrich:                          Matt you're on the call now correct?unmigrated-wiki-markup

Matt Ashtiani:                                    Yeah the vote \[inaudible Ashtiani:                                    Yeah the vote [inaudible 0:16:02\].

Wiki MarkupOlivier Crepin-Leblond:          Perfect, thank you.  And finally staff to send Olivier a \[inaudible Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Perfect, thank you.  And finally staff to send Olivier a [inaudible 0:16:13\] of the ALAC statement on the preliminary support implementation program.    Olivier to forward the statement along with a note to current and other relevant recipients and that was done.    And in fact that is an answer to our earlier question that we had or earlier action item that we had on the ex-com action items.    The follow up on the joint applicant support implementation, so for the record what's happened is \ [inaudible 0:16:45\] chair of the gTLD working group worked with the, sorry the ALAC At-Large new gTLD working group worked with the members of the working group to produce a statement on the preliminary support implementation program. unmigrated-wiki-markup 

That landed on my desk and a vote was conducted during the ALAC call and the statement was ratified, the statement was therefore sent by me to \ [inaudible 0:17:15\] so \ [inaudible 0:17:17\] but also to Steve Crocker, a copy to Sebastian Bachollet a copy to Chris Dispain who is the chair of the working group on the board that is dealing specifically with the support program and a copy also to staff.    I hope I haven't missed anyone in there.  

Okay and comment on these otherwise we can move on to the next parts of our call which is the parts about items for discussion and decision and there we have the open policy issues which we did discuss on the ALAC call to quite an extent and I'm actually quite pleased we've made much progress on.  Some of them have already passed.  The first one and first [inaudible 0:18:14] that's interesting three age shows us three different locations.  Let's look at B first then.  Three B [inaudible 0:18:22] one and two character allocation proposal [inaudible 0:18:26].  Wiki MarkupOkay and comment on these otherwise we can move on to the next parts of our call which is the parts about items for discussion and decision and there we have the open policy issues which we did discuss on the ALAC call to quite an extent and I'm actually quite pleased we've made much progress on.  Some of them have already passed.  The first one and first \[inaudible 0:18:14\] that's interesting three age shows us three different locations.  Let's look at B first then.  Three B \[inaudible 0:18:22\] one and two character allocation proposal \[inaudible 0:18:26\]. 

That one we had a statement that was written by Rinalia, thank you very much Rinalia.  It was voted on.  I believe it's adopted so that's gone well.  The next one, the At-Large geographic regions review, a statement was written drafted by Tijani Ben Jemaa and currently it's out for, the ALAC is currently voting.  Third one At-Large preliminary issue report on ‘thick’ WHOIS workspace and so there's been a lot of discussion going on the list actually but we had to have an actual official comment period so that's open until the 30th of December.  Is that correct?

Heidi Ullrich:                          Yes that's correct the 30th is the deadline.

Wiki MarkupOlivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay thank you Heidi.  Wow I'm surprised, I thought it was not that long.  I thought it was until the 25th or 26th and then we had a vote taking place until the 30th.  \[Inaudible           Okay thank you Heidi.  Wow I'm surprised, I thought it was not that long.  I thought it was until the 25th or 26th and then we had a vote taking place until the 30th.  [Inaudible 0:19:44\].

Heidi Ullrich:                          Sorry, that's what I thought you said, sorry.  I think the 27th is the comment period for the end of the comment period for this.

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I see everyone’s pretty much put their hands up now and I’ll take every person’s question and suggestion in order that I received them. So Tijani, Evan and then Carlton.  First Tijani.
order that I received them. So Tijani, Evan and then Carlton.  First Tijani.

Tijani Ben Jemaa:                    Thank you Olivier.  I didn’t see the link to the [Inaudible Wiki MarkupTijani Ben Jemaa:                    Thank you Olivier.  I didn’t see the link to the \[Inaudible 0:26:59\] asking them to express their additional requests because every day is of very high importance since the \ [Inaudible 0:27:11\]. Second point, I’m not feel \ [Inaudible 0:27:16\]. We’ll keep all the requests and we can submit them as they are.    We fear there will be a lot larger requests so unless we combine all of them and we try to avoid any replication and any consistency in the requests. That’s all.\\

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Thank you, Tijani, and I note that Heidi has mentioned in the chat that the note will be sent shortly.  The staff is currently putting it together.  Evan?
.  The staff is currently putting it together.  Evan?

Evan Leibovitch:                     Hi there, this is Evan for the record.  At the risk of soundly slightly trite I would just make the comment that although we have a very compressed timeline we also have the added advantage of being able to simple repopulate most of it from last year. So because so little was approved last year and because it’s likely that the RALO [ph] priorities have probably not substantially changed.  We already a whole bunch of worthwhile projects ready to submit that have already been done, have already been approved by the RALOs as being significant and necessary and have previously been turned down by ICANN. So although we have a compressed timeline we already have a ready-made list of submissions.  Wiki MarkupEvan Leibovitch:                     Hi there, this is Evan for the record.  At the risk of soundly slightly trite I would just make the comment that although we have a very compressed timeline we also have the added advantage of being able to simple repopulate most of it from last year. So because so little was approved last year and because it’s likely that the RALO \[ph\] priorities have probably not substantially changed.  We already a whole bunch of worthwhile projects ready to submit that have already been done, have already been approved by the RALOs as being significant and necessary and have previously been turned down by ICANN. So although we have a compressed timeline we already have a ready-made list of submissions. \\

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Thank you very much Evan and that was actually echoed during the Finance and Budget subcommittee call. But at the same time, you do have to bear in mind the template has changed – oh yes, it has – which is true of usually all administrations and bureaucratic processes. The template looks better this year than it did last year.  It’s got more questions.

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Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay, we could do that.  The only concern I have is starting to speak to other SOs and ACs and do joint requests sounds to me as though it’s going to be an absolute struggle.  I would keep it as simple as possible. We’ll do our requests and do this additional one on the side and treat that as a special track. Certainly when I was in Dakar and saw the ICANN finance presentation there was a big box on the screen that actually spanned all of the SOs and ACs and was marked ‘special projects.’  I certainly believe that the ICANN Academy is becoming a special project.  Cheryl, you have your hand up.
.  Cheryl, you have your hand up.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              Thank you Olivier. Cheryl for the [Inaudible Wiki MarkupCheryl Langdon-Orr:              Thank you Olivier. Cheryl for the \[Inaudible 0:36:09\] and I was one of those doing the up and down hands.    It seems that what I was going to ask or comment on you were covering.    The thing that still remains in my mind here is the ability to have someone from the ICANN finance team meet with the Budget and Finance subcommittee just prior to the launch date by teleconference just so we can choose a set, so to speak, on some of these nuances.    I think it’s really important that what we intend as to be understood is actually being understood by those that are receiving it. \\ 

The other thing that absolutely might be worth noting when you’re talking about cross component or cross constituency special projects is the fifteen or so long standing view on most things budget which is less should be spent across the board on everything and we need to remember that. Their response to most budget is covered. 

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Evan Leibovitch:                     Well, I was just going to ask about the practical ramifications of that.  So what that means to us, really, is there's no way that we're going to even anticipate being able to think about a summit before 2014.
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr:              \[Inaudible               [Inaudible 00:42:22\] your screen in slices. \\ 

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Financially year 2014 or 2015.  Cheryl.

Wiki MarkupCheryl Langdon-Orr:              I think this is the backing which you've just seen playing for \[Inaudible               I think this is the backing which you've just seen playing for [Inaudible 00:42:37\] for their systems and sales will be changing to even be able to deal with a multi-year market, but there's also our thought, some limitations to do with the way, not for profit organization registers in California, has to run its recording and budget so there's some sort of exceptions or tweaking or whatever it is.    There's something actually around the edges of the organization that has to be dealt with as well. \\unmigrated-wiki-markup 

Nothing is insurmountable, and it is certainly my understanding having \ [Inaudible 00:43:14\] this through no less than three different Chase financial offices now, is that \ [Inaudible 00:43:20\] certainly has his mind set that \ [Inaudible 00:43:23\] as a very good way forward, he's just got to get his ducks in a row.\\

Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Thank you , Cheryl.  And I think that we can then move on with just one take away, which is that we basically need to help the finance and budget subcommittee members in finding---in populating the group with a few more people.  Certainly there was some confusion from members that used to be part of a committee, whether they were still part of the committee or not, and so we had a pretty low attendance during our recent call.  That is unfortunate because in fact, we need more people on there, and it's not a case of having been a member and then being kicked out.

It's a case of yes, you still are a member unless you decide to resign for whatever reason, you wish to resign.  The only thing that we do need to have is at least one ALAC member from every region, and right now, due to the circumstances of some members not being elect members anymore, there are some regions that are lacking this.  So I ask you to look at the membership of that, and speak to your region and identify the ALAC member that will be on that committee please.

Wiki MarkupOkay, that's all for this subject, and we can now move on to the next one, which is review and follow-up of the, ALAC meeting of the 20{^}th^ ^th of December.    That was two days ago.    We have ten minutes for this, yes, and I'm not quite sure which part we wish to speak about most.    The GAS implementation, I gave you a quick update a little earlier, so that doesn't need to be covered.    The motion for GIG joint \ [Inaudible 00:45:20\] CCNSO working group regarding single sector IDMTLVs that has actually been set as a statement and it's being voted on at the moment.\\unmigrated-wiki-markup

That's moot, so number nine, motion for updated ALAC statement on new gTLDs, yes, now that's an interesting one.    The weight keepage \ [ph\] has gone up.    Evan, I understand, there's been a lot of changes to the motion and I think that it probably will have more changes.    There certainly seems to have been a lot of discussion on that.    Could you say just a couple of words?\\

Evan Leibovitch:                     No, you said it quite well.  I would notice, though, that Cheryl's last comment actually attracted some spam, and I would ask staff just to check to see whether or not there is any kind of spam prevention features.  Anyway, just to check.

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Heidi Ullrich:                          No, but I would--except that I will be sending Olivia and Charles just a few questions that Lynn and Seth and I are--need to have answers to.

Wiki MarkupOlivier Crepin-Leblond:                    Okay, I understand Seth is still \ [Inaudible 00:48:43\] on that.\\

Heidi Ullrich:                          It's primarily actually now Lynn Lipinski in the communications department at this point.

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Heidi Ullrich:                          It's a very good draft already. 

Wiki MarkupOlivier Crepin-Leblond:          Sounds good.  We're looking forward to it.  It leaves something to look forward to.  Then the point 15 RALO events update.  The \[Inaudible Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Sounds good.  We're looking forward to it.  It leaves something to look forward to.  Then the point 15 RALO events update.  The [Inaudible 00:49:10\] of Costa Rica events, and yes, I do need to bring you up to date on this one.    ALAC RALO, as you will all know, has sent me a proposal for a set of events to take place in Costa Rica.    I have forwarded that over to Xavier Calvez recently at the beginning of the---no, at the end of last week, hoping that we would be able to have some kind of answer sometime this week.    Heidi, has there been any indication as to whether we would have an indication of an answer, or not yet?\\

Heidi Ullrich:                          I know that there's a lot of internal discussion going on, but that's all I can say.
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Olivier Crepin-Leblond:          Okay.  The request asks for funding in the region of $75,000 or           Okay.  The request asks for funding in the region of $75,000 or $79,000, which is very similar to the \ [Inaudible 00:50:02\] request.    Of course, the complication comes from the fact that ALAC RALO had pooled its resources with \ [Inaudible 00:50:08\] to offer those events, and it's a tough one.    The only thing that comes in their favor, is the fact that because the AFRALO events were such a fantastic success, there certainly seems to have been a lot of warming up within ICANN to having such events take place because of the amount of positive feedback that has been received. \\ 

So, okay.  So basically, apart from this--what else?  Any comments on that Bev, or anyone?  No?  Okay, and then--oh, we're already on the any other business of the ALAC call, so is there any other follow-up from the ALAC meeting that anyone on this call wishes to bring forth to the table?  The virtual table.  I don't see very much movement, in which case, then, we will move over to any other business.

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