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13:00:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Top of the Hour
13:05:54 From David Mackey : Is it possible to have access to the document through the direct link … https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KTVmZIGxNF7_pro4-GmvyPZQmCkH8blcsXKd7rSbix4
13:06:06 From David Mackey : Permissions are blocked right now
13:06:48 From Judith Hellerstein : works for me
13:07:00 From Alperen Eken : Hello David, we had a problem with Drive in the whole organization, I opened it again just now.
13:07:05 From Alperen Eken : It should work
13:07:09 From Nadira Al Araj : and handy
13:07:17 From Bastiaan Goslings : The doc is blocked for me too, after loggin in with google acc
13:07:24 From David Mackey : it’s working now. thanks!
13:07:24 From Alperen Eken : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KTVmZIGxNF7_pro4-GmvyPZQmCkH8blcsXKd7rSbix4/edit?usp=sharing
13:07:29 From Justine Chew : fine by me. i was the one who suggested it.
13:07:29 From Alperen Eken : It should work Bastiaan
13:07:35 From Bastiaan Goslings : Thanks - yes works now
13:07:52 From Alperen Eken : Great, you are welcome
13:08:48 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : Mandatory
13:08:49 From Judith Hellerstein : i say suggestion
13:08:50 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello all, sorry for the delay, had problems with zoom
13:09:11 From ali almeshal : i would say optional
13:10:13 From David Mackey : +1 Cheryl
13:10:26 From Nadira Al Araj : I'm with indicating that they are certified as ALSes,
13:10:31 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Agree with Cheryl - let’s keep it
13:10:48 From Judith Hellerstein : @staff I am going on another device and another room so please allow a second connection for me. thanks
13:10:54 From Sarah Kiden : Agree
13:10:59 From Amrita Choudhury : Agree
13:11:10 From ali almeshal : agree
13:11:21 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Agree
13:13:09 From Nadira Al Araj : yes, it is
13:13:11 From Sarah Kiden : Sounds good
13:14:14 From Bastiaan Goslings : Fine with me, sounds good
13:15:38 From ali almeshal : @Alan can you give an example if it is exist?
13:16:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I support the self determination option as long as it is a once off so deemed once and not able to hop around
13:16:45 From Roberto : OK for me
13:16:48 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : +1 Cheryl, self determination
13:16:49 From David Mackey : agree
13:16:53 From Judith Hellerstein : i support this
13:16:57 From Nadira Al Araj : for an example, one of the Caribbean countries to apply either to NARALO or LACRALO they can choose the RALO to belong to
13:17:35 From David Mackey : wording is good
13:17:36 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : @nadira not a good example
13:17:37 From ali almeshal : Thanks Nadira
13:18:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : arguably ÄLAC"has no money it has a budget from ICANN managed by dept head Heidi
13:20:37 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : That's a bit silly
13:21:44 From Bastiaan Goslings : acronyms in stead of buzzwords?
13:22:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Acronyms are different
13:22:09 From Sarah Kiden : Jargon?
13:22:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Jargon seems better
13:23:16 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : Its redundant -
13:23:47 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : Regional Leadership should be involved in O&E within At-Large
13:23:53 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : +1 Alan
13:24:32 From Bastiaan Goslings : (Fine with ‘jargon', although that sounds a bit colloquial too ;-) )
13:25:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Synonym for Jargon?
13:25:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : state both if you have one
13:25:43 From David Mackey : good
13:25:46 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Aren't we just talking about ICANN terminology which includes acronyms and "jargon"
13:25:47 From Heidi Ullrich : Good idea
13:25:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Sure
13:25:51 From Sarah Kiden : Regional representation is great
13:25:55 From Bastiaan Goslings : Fine
13:25:55 From Roberto : +1
13:25:55 From ali almeshal : fine
13:25:56 From Yrjo Lansipuro : OK
13:25:58 From David Mackey : lol
13:26:02 From Judith Hellerstein : works for me
13:26:03 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : -)))
13:26:04 From David Mackey : thanks Dev :)
13:26:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Your reluctance is noted :-)
13:26:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : with thanks
13:32:23 From ali almeshal : APRALO the application only goes to Leadership team
13:33:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes WISELY so Ali
13:33:31 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : The wider Leadership team = about 8 members
13:34:21 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : Typically within LACRALO, there are great interest - in some cases, there are split votes to give RALO advice
13:34:34 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : on ALS applications
13:35:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Well considering when we started in APRALO we had dare I say intercountry tensions in the extreme that is a wise way of doing things for *FAR* more than privacy reasons in APAC
13:36:03 From Sarah Kiden : In AFRALO it goes to the wider leadership. Regional Leaders + ALAC. In the past it was only to Regional Leaders. During our monthly calls we notify members about the applications and ask for feedback
13:41:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I think we certainly could look at form modifications anyway David so I agree with you
13:41:47 From Bastiaan Goslings : @David: that makes sense to me
13:41:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : BUT I still like how APRALO dows it FOR APAC
13:42:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : so have a light tough here in our policy
13:45:19 From Judith Hellerstein : they have considered these rules,. and everyone who is on this list has given explicit acceptance to receiving anfd giving this info
13:47:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : go lightly or we will stifle ALS applications in some Regions (as a real risk)
13:48:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : or how did we ever get both Taiwan , Hing King and mainland CHina ALSes in the past when by expectation they would have to have objected to each other
13:48:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we built our Region in troubled times
13:48:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hong King
13:48:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : typos sorry
13:49:20 From David Mackey : I liked Hing King actually :-P
13:49:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : "=_
13:50:19 From Judith Hellerstein : what about changes and updates to the applications and a q& A period
13:51:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : indeed DD is even MORE important to take care with
13:53:17 From Heidi Ullrich : @Alan, exactly, that is process
13:53:21 From Heidi Ullrich : That should have been caught
13:54:01 From Heidi Ullrich : Staff should look at the process only
13:54:21 From Heidi Ullrich : Did they follow the process? Do they meet the basis criteria.
13:55:40 From Nadira Al Araj : I don't think this working party need to go into this process
13:59:10 From Heidi Ullrich : Also, in the At-Large Regional Policy Engagement Plan, there will be closer relations with GSE/AT-:large staff and the regional leaders
13:59:24 From Heidi Ullrich : so they can work closer on the ALS applications
13:59:25 From silvia.vivanco : Note the Regional VP also reviews the application and provides an opinion based on the knowledge they may have about the organization and local activities, etc

Note the Regional VP also reviews the application and provides an opinion based on the knowledge they may have about the organization and local activities, etc
13:59:49 From Judith Hellerstein : i had to leave and did not hear what you had said
13:59:51 From David Mackey : that’s good :-)
14:00:35 From Judith Hellerstein : I thought it was a very good letter
14:02:07 From silvia.vivanco : I have
14:02:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : bye for now then...
14:02:49 From Judith Hellerstein : maybe we can get some feedback from Ariel via email
14:02:54 From David Mackey : Bye all!
14:02:54 From ali almeshal : thanks to all, stay safe
14:02:55 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh (TTCS) : take care all
14:02:57 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you!
14:02:58 From Bastiaan Goslings : thanks all
14:02:59 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : thank you!
14:02:59 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you all
14:03:01 From Nadira Al Araj : Thank you Alan